FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[mr_mom]

In other OAC news ... John Carroll's London Fletcher has announced his retirement from the NFL.  [99% sure that is]

Sorry for the interruption ... back to the Quoting War!   

[bleedpurple]

And graduated.......

I did! I really did!! I can't find my diploma or yearbook or anything else to actually prove it, but SOMEBODY ought to be able to verify it if necessary!

[HScoach]

In other OAC news ... John Carroll's London Fletcher has announced his retirement from the NFL.  [99% sure that is]

Congrats to London Fletcher on a great NFL career.   You did the OAC and D3 proud.  Wish more NFL players approached the game and life like he did.

[reality check]

Rick Ponx, former OC and DC at ONU during the late 90's/early 00's was tabbed Head Coach at Aurora University.  He also spent some years more recently as DC at North Central.  D3football.com reported this news but I didn't see anything posted here.  Congrats Coach Ponx.  Much deserved.

[Desertraider]

ESPN crew for th Stagg - have not heard of any of them (in my best Gomer Pyle "sur-prise, sur-prise, sur-prise"!)
Joe Davis (play-by-play) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Davis_(sportscaster)
David Diaz-Infante (analyst) - http://espnmediazone.com/us/bios/david-diaz-infante/
Paul Carcaterra (sideline) - http://espnmediazone.com/us/bios/carcaterra_paul/

Joe Davis is not listed on ESPN website.......BUT.....an old favorite: http://espnmediazone.com/us/bios/ward_pam/

Bring Back Pam! Bring Back Pam!

(OMG - and don't forget Holly Rowe!)

[bambord]

"...Burke seems to be a huge dual threat making magic with both his feet and his arm.

Thus, Burke can't make magic with just one foot. 

pt

[emma17]

"...Burke seems to be a huge dual threat making magic with both his feet and his arm.

Thus, Burke can't make magic with just one foot. 

pt

I knew there had to be a weakness.  Get him hopping and UWW should be good to go.

[WarhawkDad]

In 2011, UWW won the game 13-10. Mount gave a away a touchdown with a fumble on the 5  their yard line.

For 2013, what is the same is that UWW has a huge OL, like NC and Wesley, but a better defense. Winning the LOS is obviously
a key factor for this game but not the only one. Wesley's front defensive 7 were big and fast and did limit K. Burke,
but the Raiders also scored 62 points despite that. An intangible for this game is the fact that this Raider team,
despite being young is well battle tested and does not give up especially their leader. IMHO, the game
could be like the many MTU/UWW games, close with the winning margin not more than 10 pts
or given the favorable weather a higher scoring contest.

Hopefully, ESPN will have decent announcers!

The turnover difference sure does seem to be the key factor in the previous Stagg matchups between these two programs. That's partly what makes this game so interesting is we really don't know what UWW offense will be on display. The ball control, very conservative O seen vs UMHB or the aggressive O seen vs Linfield (for 2 quarters).  I think we know what the Mt O will display.

I am a bit surprised that people think of UWW as "big" this year. I haven't compared rosters but I don't see the UWW D line as big at all, while the O line may be a bit below average O line size at UWW.

I do hope the announcers deliver the broadcast with energy and enthusiasm.
I know people rip Pam W from the 2007 game- but I personally feel she and her broadcast partner at least brought life to the game.

are you insinuating that D3 posters are just using the stereotypes of UWW being huge and Mount being quick, without using facts?  Noooo.  Everyone knows that UWW is huge on the lines, almost pro sized and Mount just can't match up.

These are incredibly different teams from a couple of years ago, the arm chair QB's of D3 should recognize that.  Hell, had Burke replaced the will not be named Mount QB in the second half of 2011, who knows what would have happened.

bleedpurple,

Skunks knows that I have no problem with him, actually the opposite.  If you feel the need to "slice me up, chew me up and spit me out" please go ahead.  UWW got lucky that their run coincided with the worst 3+ years of QB play at Mount in 20 years.  UWW had good teams but I don't think that there could be one Mount fan that would argue Seaman/Piloto were even decent Mount QB's.  2011 is the perfect example, the poor QB play is the difference between UWW scoring enough to win.  If only we could argue about the 2012 Stagg, but your team lost a few too many games.

I really feel bad that if I remind you of a kid you beat up in high school.  I'm sure that was many years ago for you, but it does not surprise me that you want to relive your "glory days."   What a tough guy.  But I'm sure that if you met me, you wouldn't think I was a little kid that you beat up 20 years ago.

So in 2009, when Rocco was 23 of 39 for 383 yards and 3 touchdowns he was one of the worst quarterbacks in the last 20 years of Mount Union football?   Not sure your fellow Mount fans are going to agree with you. 

The reality is that each team plays with the players they have available that year, that game, coached by the coaches that are coaching that year.   The weather is whatever it is and the game is won and lost on the field.    The one thing I can say that I learned attending those three Stagg Bowls, 09, 10 and 11, is that Mount Union fans are as equally supportive of their purple team as those of us who support UWW and that a strong 95% of them are class acts and fun to be around and party with downtown and at the tailgate.   

Most of us carry that mutual respect onto the Boards.  I know my son who played 4 years at UWW and now coaches there would expect me to behave that way to not diminish that hard work and effort he and his teammates put in to reach the ultimate game in D3 football.   

WarhawkDad

[joelmama]

In 2011, UWW won the game 13-10. Mount gave a away a touchdown with a fumble on the 5  their yard line.

For 2013, what is the same is that UWW has a huge OL, like NC and Wesley, but a better defense. Winning the LOS is obviously
a key factor for this game but not the only one. Wesley's front defensive 7 were big and fast and did limit K. Burke,
but the Raiders also scored 62 points despite that. An intangible for this game is the fact that this Raider team,
despite being young is well battle tested and does not give up especially their leader. IMHO, the game
could be like the many MTU/UWW games, close with the winning margin not more than 10 pts
or given the favorable weather a higher scoring contest.

Hopefully, ESPN will have decent announcers!

The turnover difference sure does seem to be the key factor in the previous Stagg matchups between these two programs. That's partly what makes this game so interesting is we really don't know what UWW offense will be on display. The ball control, very conservative O seen vs UMHB or the aggressive O seen vs Linfield (for 2 quarters).  I think we know what the Mt O will display.

I am a bit surprised that people think of UWW as "big" this year. I haven't compared rosters but I don't see the UWW D line as big at all, while the O line may be a bit below average O line size at UWW.

I do hope the announcers deliver the broadcast with energy and enthusiasm.
I know people rip Pam W from the 2007 game- but I personally feel she and her broadcast partner at least brought life to the game.

are you insinuating that D3 posters are just using the stereotypes of UWW being huge and Mount being quick, without using facts?  Noooo.  Everyone knows that UWW is huge on the lines, almost pro sized and Mount just can't match up.

These are incredibly different teams from a couple of years ago, the arm chair QB's of D3 should recognize that.  Hell, had Burke replaced the will not be named Mount QB in the second half of 2011, who knows what would have happened.

bleedpurple,

Skunks knows that I have no problem with him, actually the opposite.  If you feel the need to "slice me up, chew me up and spit me out" please go ahead.  UWW got lucky that their run coincided with the worst 3+ years of QB play at Mount in 20 years.  UWW had good teams but I don't think that there could be one Mount fan that would argue Seaman/Piloto were even decent Mount QB's.  2011 is the perfect example, the poor QB play is the difference between UWW scoring enough to win.  If only we could argue about the 2012 Stagg, but your team lost a few too many games.

I really feel bad that if I remind you of a kid you beat up in high school.  I'm sure that was many years ago for you, but it does not surprise me that you want to relive your "glory days."   What a tough guy.  But I'm sure that if you met me, you wouldn't think I was a little kid that you beat up 20 years ago.

So in 2009, when Rocco was 23 of 39 for 383 yards and 3 touchdowns he was one of the worst quarterbacks in the last 20 years of Mount Union football?   Not sure your fellow Mount fans are going to agree with you. 

The reality is that each team plays with the players they have available that year, that game, coached by the coaches that are coaching that year.   The weather is whatever it is and the game is won and lost on the field.    The one thing I can say that I learned attending those three Stagg Bowls, 09, 10 and 11, is that Mount Union fans are as equally supportive of their purple team as those of us who support UWW and that a strong 95% of them are class acts and fun to be around and party with downtown and at the tailgate.   

Most of us carry that mutual respect onto the Boards.  I know my son who played 4 years at UWW and now coaches there would expect me to behave that way to not diminish that hard work and effort he and his teammates put in to reach the ultimate game in D3 football.   

WarhawkDad

Mount has been very blessed at quarterback for 20+ years and yes Rocco and Seaman would rank near the bottom of the QB's during that period according to most Mount followers.  It has been discussed on this board and I do not remember where he was ranked exactly but it was not near the top for sure.

[theaprof]

Quote lessons are available here.  Just $25 per lesson.  Either that or free beer at the Stagg Bowl.

[theaprof]

Emma17 and bambord, I'm talking to you.

[HScoach]

In 2011, UWW won the game 13-10. Mount gave a away a touchdown with a fumble on the 5  their yard line.

For 2013, what is the same is that UWW has a huge OL, like NC and Wesley, but a better defense. Winning the LOS is obviously
a key factor for this game but not the only one. Wesley's front defensive 7 were big and fast and did limit K. Burke,
but the Raiders also scored 62 points despite that. An intangible for this game is the fact that this Raider team,
despite being young is well battle tested and does not give up especially their leader. IMHO, the game
could be like the many MTU/UWW games, close with the winning margin not more than 10 pts
or given the favorable weather a higher scoring contest.

Hopefully, ESPN will have decent announcers!

The turnover difference sure does seem to be the key factor in the previous Stagg matchups between these two programs. That's partly what makes this game so interesting is we really don't know what UWW offense will be on display. The ball control, very conservative O seen vs UMHB or the aggressive O seen vs Linfield (for 2 quarters).  I think we know what the Mt O will display.

I am a bit surprised that people think of UWW as "big" this year. I haven't compared rosters but I don't see the UWW D line as big at all, while the O line may be a bit below average O line size at UWW.

I do hope the announcers deliver the broadcast with energy and enthusiasm.
I know people rip Pam W from the 2007 game- but I personally feel she and her broadcast partner at least brought life to the game.

are you insinuating that D3 posters are just using the stereotypes of UWW being huge and Mount being quick, without using facts?  Noooo.  Everyone knows that UWW is huge on the lines, almost pro sized and Mount just can't match up.

These are incredibly different teams from a couple of years ago, the arm chair QB's of D3 should recognize that.  Hell, had Burke replaced the will not be named Mount QB in the second half of 2011, who knows what would have happened.

bleedpurple,

Skunks knows that I have no problem with him, actually the opposite.  If you feel the need to "slice me up, chew me up and spit me out" please go ahead.  UWW got lucky that their run coincided with the worst 3+ years of QB play at Mount in 20 years.  UWW had good teams but I don't think that there could be one Mount fan that would argue Seaman/Piloto were even decent Mount QB's.  2011 is the perfect example, the poor QB play is the difference between UWW scoring enough to win.  If only we could argue about the 2012 Stagg, but your team lost a few too many games.

I really feel bad that if I remind you of a kid you beat up in high school.  I'm sure that was many years ago for you, but it does not surprise me that you want to relive your "glory days."   What a tough guy.  But I'm sure that if you met me, you wouldn't think I was a little kid that you beat up 20 years ago.

So in 2009, when Rocco was 23 of 39 for 383 yards and 3 touchdowns he was one of the worst quarterbacks in the last 20 years of Mount Union football?   Not sure your fellow Mount fans are going to agree with you. 

The reality is that each team plays with the players they have available that year, that game, coached by the coaches that are coaching that year.   The weather is whatever it is and the game is won and lost on the field.    The one thing I can say that I learned attending those three Stagg Bowls, 09, 10 and 11, is that Mount Union fans are as equally supportive of their purple team as those of us who support UWW and that a strong 95% of them are class acts and fun to be around and party with downtown and at the tailgate.   

Most of us carry that mutual respect onto the Boards.  I know my son who played 4 years at UWW and now coaches there would expect me to behave that way to not diminish that hard work and effort he and his teammates put in to reach the ultimate game in D3 football.   

WarhawkDad

Mount has been very blessed at quarterback for 20+ years and yes Rocco and Seaman would rank near the bottom of the QB's during that period according to most Mount followers.  It has been discussed on this board and I do not remember where he was ranked exactly but it was not near the top for sure.

Rocco had a great senior season.     Which was quite surprising as he'd struggled in a backup role as a youngster, butRocco was NOT the pproblem in that Stagg Bowl.    It was fumbles by the RB's in the 4th quarter.     If not for those, Mount wins the Stagg and Rocco is the landslide winner for MVP.

I would not put Rocco at the bottom.   That distinction goes to Piloto, Bruney and Seaman.   Rocco doesn't have a "career" after starting only one season, but I'm confident in saying Mount doesn't lose both of the next 2 Stagg's woth him under center.

[HScoach]

^  please overlook the crappy typing.   I'm sending these from my phone.

[jaypeter]

I'll trade you quoting lessons for phone-typing lessons.   

[Desertraider]

Watching the Gagliardi ceremony. And the winner is....well first we need the history of the award and Jostens....mention Coach Gagliardi....talk some more....re-emphasize the importance....all are worthy...the winner is......Kevin Burke!!!!!!!