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Dr. Acula

Yeah, Cap is a sad tale.  But that finger pointing goes beyond Bexley and, truthfully, beyond the OAC.  It's mind boggling how there isn't a good D3 program in the Columbus area considering the pool of quality HS programs churning out kids who are college bound and in many cases able to view private schools as a viable college option.  Otterbein is the biggest head scratcher considering they don't face the same hurdles as their neighbors down here.

Toph

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on September 30, 2014, 07:21:31 AM
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Quote from: Dr. Acula on September 29, 2014, 12:15:18 PM
Quote from: thewaterboy on September 29, 2014, 11:32:57 AM
Saw QB Evan Shimensky get some action for Mount. Where does he figure into the QB situation if they are moving him back there. That was his position when I went to high school with him.

Good question. I'm not sure of the answer.  Peyakov seems to be the first in to relieve Burke.  Burkes (the freshman) played third at Musky. But then Saturday Namdar took snaps at QB along with Shimensky and Christy.  I can't make out any semblance of a pecking order.  Bottom line is if Burke gets hurt Scott or Namdar is playing QB, IMO.

Given that he's a senior next year, I would assume the coaching staff would probably start a younger player.  If you're going to be inexperienced at QB, wouldn't you rather it be a younger guy who can gain experience and use it for a couple years?

I think that would be true most places, but at Mount, where the standard is a national title every year, I think you play the best guy right now.

Given that he's currently listed as a wide receiver, and not a QB, I don't think the coaching staff views him as the next best option.

thewaterboy

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Quote from: Toph on October 01, 2014, 06:33:40 PM
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Saw QB Evan Shimensky get some action for Mount. Where does he figure into the QB situation if they are moving him back there. That was his position when I went to high school with him.

Good question. I'm not sure of the answer.  Peyakov seems to be the first in to relieve Burke.  Burkes (the freshman) played third at Musky. But then Saturday Namdar took snaps at QB along with Shimensky and Christy.  I can't make out any semblance of a pecking order.  Bottom line is if Burke gets hurt Scott or Namdar is playing QB, IMO.

Given that he's a senior next year, I would assume the coaching staff would probably start a younger player.  If you're going to be inexperienced at QB, wouldn't you rather it be a younger guy who can gain experience and use it for a couple years?

I think that would be true most places, but at Mount, where the standard is a national title every year, I think you play the best guy right now.

Given that he's currently listed as a wide receiver, and not a QB, I don't think the coaching staff views him as the next best option.
Thats where he was put at when he played at Kent State. IMO, he was a little too small for their liking at QB. He got a lot of the tools to be a really good QB (esp. in D3), just not the size.

reality check

Quote from: Dr. Acula on September 30, 2014, 02:56:57 PM
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Quote from: Dr. Acula on September 30, 2014, 11:48:52 AM
Good point, 68.  He is a junior academically not eligibility wise.  I forget what Pat said the rule was when the Piloto incident came up in 2012.  I feel like it was based on number of semesters, not on "4 seasons in 5 years".  That would be scary if the OAC has to deal with Namdar at WR for 2 more years after this because he's only going to get better the more he plays there.

Good luck to Jasper too.  If he keeps working he'll get his shot again.  Based on what I saw at WR for the Pats last night he might get shipped over to Foxborough by Halloween.  At worst we know he could play for the Browns!

I believe the rule is to complete 4 Seasons in 10 Semesters.  Since he was not enrolled at Mount in the Fall of 2013, I am fairly certain he has two years of eligibility left after this one.

Look at us talking about Roman Namdar's potential eligibility for the 2016 football season.  Oh Capital, I remember when this was actually a week we'd be able to talk about football.  Those were fun times.   

We fondly refer to it as the decade of Pentello.
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950

Blutarsky

Speaking of Pentello, it's a sad situation in Columbus.....

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2014/09/24/sports-report-ledce-0924-art-gj6ucpo3-1.html

I'm assuming this would be family to the "Capital Pentello"??
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son"
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Dr. Acula

That's his uncle.  Rocky has been HC at South forever.  He's old school.  Potentially too old school if that proves to be true.   

SaintsFAN

Quote from: Dr. Acula on October 02, 2014, 03:49:44 PM
That's his uncle.  Rocky has been HC at South forever.  He's old school.  Potentially too old school if that proves to be true.   

25 years at the same school??  You have to wonder if he views his nephew as a failure for only lasting 8 or 10 at Cap??
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

emma17

Quote from: Blutarsky on October 02, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
Speaking of Pentello, it's a sad situation in Columbus.....

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2014/09/24/sports-report-ledce-0924-art-gj6ucpo3-1.html

I'm assuming this would be family to the "Capital Pentello"??

Of course I know nothing of the details in this situation so I'll ask my question on a hypothetical.
If a coach smacked a player in the helmet during a heated moment of practice and there was neither an injury nor a complaint from the player / player's parent, should the school take action against the coach (I'm assuming word gets back to Administration via chatter or story telling)?

rscl70

Quote from: emma17 on October 02, 2014, 06:44:46 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on October 02, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
Speaking of Pentello, it's a sad situation in Columbus.....

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2014/09/24/sports-report-ledce-0924-art-gj6ucpo3-1.html

I'm assuming this would be family to the "Capital Pentello"??

Of course I know nothing of the details in this situation so I'll ask my question on a hypothetical.
If a coach smacked a player in the helmet during a heated moment of practice and there was neither an injury nor a complaint from the player / player's parent, should the school take action against the coach (I'm assuming word gets back to Administration via chatter or story telling)?

The times are changing.  What was common practice in the '60s is considered abuse these days.
12-0 = 13

mr_mom

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You've been warned!   ;)
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SaintsFAN

Quote from: rscl70 on October 02, 2014, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 02, 2014, 06:44:46 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on October 02, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
Speaking of Pentello, it's a sad situation in Columbus.....

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2014/09/24/sports-report-ledce-0924-art-gj6ucpo3-1.html

I'm assuming this would be family to the "Capital Pentello"??

Of course I know nothing of the details in this situation so I'll ask my question on a hypothetical.
If a coach smacked a player in the helmet during a heated moment of practice and there was neither an injury nor a complaint from the player / player's parent, should the school take action against the coach (I'm assuming word gets back to Administration via chatter or story telling)?

The times are changing.  What was common practice in the '60s is considered abuse these days.

Ding - Ding - Ding

I know my coach, who ALWAYS beat Chaminade and realitycheck (in particular's teams), would never have made it to 100 wins if the climate was the same.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

bceagle80

Quote from: Dr. Acula on September 29, 2014, 10:49:43 AM
Also, good job JV Raiders going to 4-0 beating JCU yesterday for the 2nd time this year.  Not sure of the score.  Maybe bceagle knows.

I spoke with my son last night and found out the score, 47-7.

In the game coming up on Sunday, the JV plays Washington and Jefferson again. My son found out he will not be playing on Sunday because they want to get some other guards who have not had playing time some game time. This is a positive statement about the coaches at Mount Union because they want to make sure players who have not had game time get game time experience. In addition, my son is going to play more in the next Sunday's game. He also found out he will have time to get away from campus leaving this afternoon to come home to watch his old high school team play a game tonight. He is happy about that and we will be happy to see him!

bceagle80

Quote from: emma17 on October 02, 2014, 06:44:46 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on October 02, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
Speaking of Pentello, it's a sad situation in Columbus.....

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2014/09/24/sports-report-ledce-0924-art-gj6ucpo3-1.html

I'm assuming this would be family to the "Capital Pentello"??

Of course I know nothing of the details in this situation so I'll ask my question on a hypothetical.
If a coach smacked a player in the helmet during a heated moment of practice and there was neither an injury nor a complaint from the player / player's parent, should the school take action against the coach (I'm assuming word gets back to Administration via chatter or story telling)?

This hypothetical question has come out in reality more than a few times. Two I can think of is Woody Hayes in the late 70's when he struck one of his own players in the sidelines during a game and Bobby Knight when he was at Indiana. There is another basketball coach who did it in the last ten years (I an not remember who it was).

You have to measure this out with intent. It is not a black and white decision for any administration although they will try to have rules to govern any circumstance. Coaches have many tools in their arsenal in order to motivate or discipline players. Just like anyone else, they can get caught up in the moment of an intense game. This does not, however, condone smacking a kid with a fist when he is not looking. Slapping a player on the back or patting them on the head after a great play does not mean it is done gently. Again, intent is the key and that is why they need to not make snap decisions.

bceagle80

Regarding this past weekend's fiasco in Ann Arbor with Michigan Head Coach Brady Hoke, I have never in my life seen where it is so obvious that a kid has been hurt with a probable concussion (he also hurt his ankle). The problem with this was not the fact that the kid got hurt but they did nothing to take care of him immediately. If he is hurt, pull him immediately and get him checked out. This is basic decision making. Someone on the Michigan coaching staff had to have seen him clearly not able to stand easily. What streams me more is the fact that Hoke denies seeing it and just knew about the ankle injury.

bceagle80

Quote from: bceagle80 on October 03, 2014, 08:28:50 AM
What streams me more is the fact that Hoke denies seeing it and just knew about the ankle injury.

Typo!! I meant "steams" me more. Oops! I guess I got caught up in the moment too!  ;D