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bleedpurple

Quote from: desertraider on October 18, 2014, 05:27:11 PM
Ugly game but a win is a win. I hate to do the "if this.." thing but the reality is that absent 2 Mount fumbles the score is 72-17. My point is simply that Mount played sloppy and dominated Berg. However - Mees threw for 300+ AND the Dline got a ton of pressure. The secondary, IMHO, needs to step up a bit. They got a nice pick in the endzone which was huge but Mees had success all day. I can't say that Meyers will do the same cause Mees has wheels which helped him out several times. Here is what I am taking away from this game:
1. Mount can score 50+ on just about anybody.
2. The D is MUCH better this year, especially D-line.
3. Namdar needs to stop looking downfield before he secures the ball (not everything is a positive).
4. Mount needs to secure the ball better (4 fumbles!) as the weather will become a factor in the coming weeks.
5. The JCU game looks to be Mounts first test this season. Sorry but neither Berg nor the Polar Bears proved to be a test...or is Mount that good?
6. The WRMU crew should have found out that it is pronounced "Guh-lardee" by now. Come on guys it is Week 6! I am sending an email to the station.
7. The live video was cool - but I was watching the free 90second preview and refreshing every 10 minutes or so. I am going to watch the replay tonight.

Happy trails y'all and as always.....Roll Raiders~Roll!!

For clarification purposes: Giving up 407 yards and 23 first downs to Heidelberg was encouraging?

HScoach

^ I agree.  I'm not encouraged by the defense so far.  Better than '14, but not good.
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Game on Friday Night:

My team is on Defense.  Opponents are in a Slot Right Formation.  QB Drops back and we get pressure.  QB Rolls to his left, but still in the pocket.  TE stayed in to block.  Instead of taking the sack, QB launches the ball out of bounds, over our bench.

Intentional Grounding Right?

This is what ensued.  Side Judge looks at White Hat (who is behind the QB).  White Hat looks back at Side Judge.  No call is made.

Our HC discusses the situation with both referees.  Side Judge says he gave the White Hat the signal that there were no eligible receivers in the area and it is White Hat's job to throw the flag.

White Hat says he was looking at the Side Judge to make the call and since he didn't, he didn't throw the flag.

QB was at his own 12 yard line when he threw the ball.

There is no "Inside the Tackle Box" rule in HS.

Should have been 5 yard penalty and loss of down.  Opponent should have had the ball on their own 7 yard line.

Next down was 3rd and the opponent fumbles a hand off for a 6 yard loss (they recovered the fumble).

There is no saying they would have run the same play, but I much rather would have had them punting from their own end zone, possibly snapping from their own 1.
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Toph

QuoteI think this Mount D will stop the run and will force Myers to move. I don't know how mobile he is or how accurate he is on the run. I do know he has an ICBM for an arm and if the heads don't get turned on coverage it will be a close game. Mount has been 'weak' on the big play (granted Berg dropped the deep ball today) and Myers could probably hit the middle of the Streaks field from Alliance. So I look for JC to go deep if they have enough time. It will be a great game but I think Mount is too deep.

It will be a key for Mount to stop the run.  JCU's offense is predicated on the pass, but Tommy Michaels is no slouch.  If he can get going, it sets up playaction and will at least force the defense to respect the possibility of the run game. 

Myers isn't mobile.  He can extend plays in the pocket at times.  He's big and moves his feet well, but he's not going to be taking off running.  JCU has a lot of weapons downfield.  I don't know that even I have given Aramis Greenwood enough credit.  He just set the record for most TD receptions in a career at JCU with 25 (he also had a kick return for a TD for a total of 4 first half touchdowns yesterday).  If Mount has been a little shaky in giving up big plays, that's something that will need to be corrected before the Streaks come to town.   

Can't believe we still have almost a month...hope everyone stays healthy on both sides.

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I know that MTU hasn't played the best opponents this season so far but I am liking the diversity on Offense and overall Team Rankings (Through Games 10/11/14):

Total Offense:  #1  632 YPG
Rushing Offense:   #6   308 YPG
Passing Offense:   #16   315 YPG
Team Passing Efficiency:  #5   195.45
Scoring Offense:  #1  64 PPG
Total Defense:  #1  137 YPG
Rushing Defense:  #6  64 YPG
Passing Yards Allowed:  #1  73.2
Team Passing Efficiency Defense:  #2  68.51
Scoring Defense:  #1  4.0
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raiderpa

Defense wins championships, and although they seem better I am not convinced this is a National Championship D...
Hope I am wrong, but do we go to a Stagg hoping to outscore the opponent? 

boobyhasgameyo

I don't know what else you are looking for Raiderpa?  The rankings according to K&J state that Mount Union has the #1 ranked defense in yards and points per game. 

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on October 19, 2014, 12:50:36 PM
I don't know what else you are looking for Raiderpa?  The rankings according to K&J state that Mount Union has the #1 ranked defense in yards and points per game.

Those stats are prior to Heidelberg game.  Have to wait till after JCU game to see where MTU's Passing Defense really stands.  It was horrible watching MTU CBs get beat time and time again in the Stagg Bowl, and if they are still playing the same techniques (which it sounds like they are) I am very hesitant to proclaim this a National Championship Defense.
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Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 19, 2014, 09:36:46 AM
Game on Friday Night:

My team is on Defense.  Opponents are in a Slot Right Formation.  QB Drops back and we get pressure.  QB Rolls to his left, but still in the pocket.  TE stayed in to block.  Instead of taking the sack, QB launches the ball out of bounds, over our bench.

Intentional Grounding Right?

This is what ensued.  Side Judge looks at White Hat (who is behind the QB).  White Hat looks back at Side Judge.  No call is made.

Our HC discusses the situation with both referees.  Side Judge says he gave the White Hat the signal that there were no eligible receivers in the area and it is White Hat's job to throw the flag.

White Hat says he was looking at the Side Judge to make the call and since he didn't, he didn't throw the flag.

QB was at his own 12 yard line when he threw the ball.

There is no "Inside the Tackle Box" rule in HS.

Should have been 5 yard penalty and loss of down.  Opponent should have had the ball on their own 7 yard line.

Next down was 3rd and the opponent fumbles a hand off for a 6 yard loss (they recovered the fumble).

There is no saying they would have run the same play, but I much rather would have had them punting from their own end zone, possibly snapping from their own 1.
At least you weren't watching a game at Buffalo. In case nobody saw it last year their goal line must be at the four because a qb was called for intentional grounding in the endzone when he passed the ball from the 4. Intentional grounding maybe, but not a safety as was called.

Desertraider

Quote from: bleedpurple on October 19, 2014, 12:29:28 AM
Quote from: desertraider on October 18, 2014, 05:27:11 PM
Ugly game but a win is a win. I hate to do the "if this.." thing but the reality is that absent 2 Mount fumbles the score is 72-17. My point is simply that Mount played sloppy and dominated Berg. However - Mees threw for 300+ AND the Dline got a ton of pressure. The secondary, IMHO, needs to step up a bit. They got a nice pick in the endzone which was huge but Mees had success all day. I can't say that Meyers will do the same cause Mees has wheels which helped him out several times. Here is what I am taking away from this game:
1. Mount can score 50+ on just about anybody.
2. The D is MUCH better this year, especially D-line.
3. Namdar needs to stop looking downfield before he secures the ball (not everything is a positive).
4. Mount needs to secure the ball better (4 fumbles!) as the weather will become a factor in the coming weeks.
5. The JCU game looks to be Mounts first test this season. Sorry but neither Berg nor the Polar Bears proved to be a test...or is Mount that good?
6. The WRMU crew should have found out that it is pronounced "Guh-lardee" by now. Come on guys it is Week 6! I am sending an email to the station.
7. The live video was cool - but I was watching the free 90second preview and refreshing every 10 minutes or so. I am going to watch the replay tonight.

Happy trails y'all and as always.....Roll Raiders~Roll!!

For clarification purposes: Giving up 407 yards and 23 first downs to Heidelberg was encouraging?

As odd as it may sound...yes. I have to look at 300 being passing yards. Berg was behind and throwing alot (43 attempts). The D line had 6 sacks - so the pressure was there but Mees is very mobile. I am still worried about it because the secondary missed a few opportunities. Not to be nitpicky or anything but it was actually 21 first downs that they gave up since 2 were on penalties. I see a few problems with Mounts D. They shut Berg down and should have been off the field but the penalty (Personal Foul) extended the drive and Mount gave up yards in chunks before allowing a FG. The D seems to not adjust well when a mistake is made that extends a drive. I still can't figure out why the DBs can't get their heads around. I saw at least 3 picks turned into completions because of this. In addition - the big play. The Pass D gave up plays of 27,22, 27, and 30(TD) in first half. Granted they also 'gave up' other long plays if Berg did not drop the ball. I watched the game last night and I mean this as unbiased as possible - Mount dominated that game. It was MUCH closer to 72-6 (Berg TD was a product of Mounts muffed punt) than those who did not see it would ever believe. 
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Quote from: raiderpa on October 19, 2014, 12:37:14 PM
Defense wins championships, and although they seem better I am not convinced this is a National Championship D...
Hope I am wrong, but do we go to a Stagg hoping to outscore the opponent?

  I know what you're getting at, but isn't the object of any game to outscore the opponent?
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Dr. Acula

Mount receives their first 1st place vote this week.  Not the week that would have inspired me to do that.  Nothing in any of the top 3 teams' resumes would have had me considering any jumbling so far. 

bleedpurple

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Quote from: desertraider on October 19, 2014, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 19, 2014, 12:29:28 AM
Quote from: desertraider on October 18, 2014, 05:27:11 PM
Ugly game but a win is a win. I hate to do the "if this.." thing but the reality is that absent 2 Mount fumbles the score is 72-17. My point is simply that Mount played sloppy and dominated Berg. However - Mees threw for 300+ AND the Dline got a ton of pressure. The secondary, IMHO, needs to step up a bit. They got a nice pick in the endzone which was huge but Mees had success all day. I can't say that Meyers will do the same cause Mees has wheels which helped him out several times. Here is what I am taking away from this game:
1. Mount can score 50+ on just about anybody.
2. The D is MUCH better this year, especially D-line.
3. Namdar needs to stop looking downfield before he secures the ball (not everything is a positive).
4. Mount needs to secure the ball better (4 fumbles!) as the weather will become a factor in the coming weeks.
5. The JCU game looks to be Mounts first test this season. Sorry but neither Berg nor the Polar Bears proved to be a test...or is Mount that good?
6. The WRMU crew should have found out that it is pronounced "Guh-lardee" by now. Come on guys it is Week 6! I am sending an email to the station.
7. The live video was cool - but I was watching the free 90second preview and refreshing every 10 minutes or so. I am going to watch the replay tonight.

Happy trails y'all and as always.....Roll Raiders~Roll!!

For clarification purposes: Giving up 407 yards and 23 first downs to Heidelberg was encouraging?

As odd as it may sound...yes. I have to look at 300 being passing yards. Berg was behind and throwing alot (43 attempts). The D line had 6 sacks - so the pressure was there but Mees is very mobile. I am still worried about it because the secondary missed a few opportunities. Not to be nitpicky or anything but it was actually 21 first downs that they gave up since 2 were on penalties. I see a few problems with Mounts D. They shut Berg down and should have been off the field but the penalty (Personal Foul) extended the drive and Mount gave up yards in chunks before allowing a FG. The D seems to not adjust well when a mistake is made that extends a drive. I still can't figure out why the DBs can't get their heads around. I saw at least 3 picks turned into completions because of this. In addition - the big play. The Pass D gave up plays of 27,22, 27, and 30(TD) in first half. Granted they also 'gave up' other long plays if Berg did not drop the ball. I watched the game last night and I mean this as unbiased as possible - Mount dominated that game. It was MUCH closer to 72-6 (Berg TD was a product of Mounts muffed punt) than those who did not see it would ever believe.

It does actually sound odd. But on the other hand, it is only week 6 and I suppose incremental progress is good. Obviously, the D-Line improving from last year is a must. It sounds like most agree they have. But the secondary will really need to step up as well. Even with a better defensive line, they will probably have to hold their coverages longer when playing against a high level offensive line. 

Dr. Acula, I'm with you on the 1st place vote thing. I know Mount didn't have one, had one, didn't have one, and now have it back.  I'm wondering if it's the same voter.  Maybe the voter wishes he could split his vote and this is his way of doing that. I see Mount gained 2 points overall in the poll which means they grabbed a second place vote from UMHB as well.

MasterJedi

Quote from: bleedpurple on October 19, 2014, 09:50:56 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 19, 2014, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 19, 2014, 12:29:28 AM
Quote from: desertraider on October 18, 2014, 05:27:11 PM
Ugly game but a win is a win. I hate to do the "if this.." thing but the reality is that absent 2 Mount fumbles the score is 72-17. My point is simply that Mount played sloppy and dominated Berg. However - Mees threw for 300+ AND the Dline got a ton of pressure. The secondary, IMHO, needs to step up a bit. They got a nice pick in the endzone which was huge but Mees had success all day. I can't say that Meyers will do the same cause Mees has wheels which helped him out several times. Here is what I am taking away from this game:
1. Mount can score 50+ on just about anybody.
2. The D is MUCH better this year, especially D-line.
3. Namdar needs to stop looking downfield before he secures the ball (not everything is a positive).
4. Mount needs to secure the ball better (4 fumbles!) as the weather will become a factor in the coming weeks.
5. The JCU game looks to be Mounts first test this season. Sorry but neither Berg nor the Polar Bears proved to be a test...or is Mount that good?
6. The WRMU crew should have found out that it is pronounced "Guh-lardee" by now. Come on guys it is Week 6! I am sending an email to the station.
7. The live video was cool - but I was watching the free 90second preview and refreshing every 10 minutes or so. I am going to watch the replay tonight.

Happy trails y'all and as always.....Roll Raiders~Roll!!

For clarification purposes: Giving up 407 yards and 23 first downs to Heidelberg was encouraging?

As odd as it may sound...yes. I have to look at 300 being passing yards. Berg was behind and throwing alot (43 attempts). The D line had 6 sacks - so the pressure was there but Mees is very mobile. I am still worried about it because the secondary missed a few opportunities. Not to be nitpicky or anything but it was actually 21 first downs that they gave up since 2 were on penalties. I see a few problems with Mounts D. They shut Berg down and should have been off the field but the penalty (Personal Foul) extended the drive and Mount gave up yards in chunks before allowing a FG. The D seems to not adjust well when a mistake is made that extends a drive. I still can't figure out why the DBs can't get their heads around. I saw at least 3 picks turned into completions because of this. In addition - the big play. The Pass D gave up plays of 27,22, 27, and 30(TD) in first half. Granted they also 'gave up' other long plays if Berg did not drop the ball. I watched the game last night and I mean this as unbiased as possible - Mount dominated that game. It was MUCH closer to 72-6 (Berg TD was a product of Mounts muffed punt) than those who did not see it would ever believe.

It does actually sound odd. But on the other hand, it is only week 6 and I suppose incremental progress is good. Obviously, the D-Line improving from last year is a must. It sounds like most agree they have. But the secondary will really need to step up as well. Even with a better defensive line, they will probably have to hold their coverages longer when playing against a high level offensive line. 

Dr. Acula, I'm with you on the 1st place vote thing. I know Mount didn't have one, had one, didn't have one, and now have it back.  I'm wondering if it's the same voter.  Maybe the voter wishes he could split his vote and this is his way of doing that.

This is their first, first place vote bleed. UMHB had the other one before.