FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I guess I care too much about the deserving kids getting the recognition they are due.  Just heard about the section voting done by the 7 HC's in our section.  The QB I shared film on was not determined to be one of the top two QB's in his seven team section in spite of leading the state of AZ in passing yards per game and leading his division in total yards while accounting for 40 total touchdowns.  His teammate, who led the state and NATION in kick return average was not recognized as one of the two best returners in our section.  A kid who was second in the section and was good for 127 tackles and 23 tackles for loss was only a second teamer.  I feel bad for these kids that coaches don't take the time to get it right.  When my HC said something about the KR kid, the other coaches acknowledged they had no idea he led the state or country in return average in spite of that being written on his nomination.  Some of these guys deserve a swift kick to the nuts.

My head coach has taken me to these meetings for our Conference the past 4 years.  Sometimes Coaches hold "grudges" against other programs, even when the kids are deserving.  Our County Athletic Director ALWAYS starts the meeting by saying this is "about the kids" and to leave personal feelings at the door, but unfortunately some coaches aren't mature enough to do that.

[Spurrier]

checkout iowa conference facilities and action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW2aberTHsI

[PurpleSuit]

http://www.the-review.com/mount%20union%20sports/2014/11/13/oac-coaches-size-up-mtu-jcu-game

[reality check]

I guess I care too much about the deserving kids getting the recognition they are due.  Just heard about the section voting done by the 7 HC's in our section.  The QB I shared film on was not determined to be one of the top two QB's in his seven team section in spite of leading the state of AZ in passing yards per game and leading his division in total yards while accounting for 40 total touchdowns.  His teammate, who led the state and NATION in kick return average was not recognized as one of the two best returners in our section.  A kid who was second in the section and was good for 127 tackles and 23 tackles for loss was only a second teamer.  I feel bad for these kids that coaches don't take the time to get it right.  When my HC said something about the KR kid, the other coaches acknowledged they had no idea he led the state or country in return average in spite of that being written on his nomination.  Some of these guys deserve a swift kick to the nuts.

My head coach has taken me to these meetings for our Conference the past 4 years.  Sometimes Coaches hold "grudges" against other programs, even when the kids are deserving.  Our County Athletic Director ALWAYS starts the meeting by saying this is "about the kids" and to leave personal feelings at the door, but unfortunately some coaches aren't mature enough to do that.

KD

Totally agree.  I know numbers aren't everything but the other issue with this is that in AZ at least, if a kid doesn't make first or second team in his section, he can't get recognized anywhere else either.  So the leading KR in the COUNTRY is not going to get any recognition.  The leading passer in the state is not getting any recognition.  I even went back and checked section game performance in an attempt to justify their voting.  My kid actually upped his per game average versus section opponents to 294 yd/game passing.  The two kids who got voted in at QB ahead of him saw their section averages go down in terms of production.  His rushing numbers were better in section games too.  It's just disgusting to me that this kind of stuff happens because the kids deserve better.  I am left with the feeling that the only reason these kids don't get recognized is petty bias and Survivor-style alliances within the coaching "bros" fraternity.

[Spurrier]

Reality check...how many games did ur team win?

[reality check]

Team went 4-6.  I understand the nature of the question but there's a lot more to it than that.  We play in the toughest section in the state in our division.  3 of the final 4 teams in our division in the playoffs come from this section year in and year out.  So out of the 48 teams in our division, 3 of the top 4 are annually in our section.  Two of those top three teams didn't have a QB make the section recognition because they relied so heavily on run game and the QB's were managers.  I am a believer in looking at the numbers and then when two kids are close on paper, you look at what his team did or what the records were.  I also believe you consider what kind of support is around them.  If you put my QB on one of those top three teams, he is a first-team all-state candidate, let alone section candidate.

[emma17]

http://www.the-review.com/mount%20union%20sports/2014/11/13/oac-coaches-size-up-mtu-jcu-game

Interesting article as the author attempts to get predictions from the other OAC coaches.
I'm surprised he got any- but Candetto from Capital wasn't bashful.
Does his following quote mean he thinks Mt is much better than JCU this year or Mt is much better than last year?

"I think John Carroll is pretty much the same team they were last year. We had some marginal success against them," Candeto said. "But against Mount Union, we couldn't do anything. They just beat us in every facet. Personally, I think Mount Union is a much better football team this year."

[Desertraider]

http://www.the-review.com/mount%20union%20sports/2014/11/13/oac-coaches-size-up-mtu-jcu-game

Interesting article as the author attempts to get predictions from the other OAC coaches.
I'm surprised he got any- but Candetto from Capital wasn't bashful.
Does his following quote mean he thinks Mt is much better than JCU this year or Mt is much better than last year?

"I think John Carroll is pretty much the same team they were last year. We had some marginal success against them," Candeto said. "But against Mount Union, we couldn't do anything. They just beat us in every facet. Personally, I think Mount Union is a much better football team this year."

I took it as last year Mount was better than JCU and Mount is even better this year while JCU is the same. Not sure if that means should expect the same result as the Berg game (very tough last year, and a beating this year)..but I think we all have generally agreed Mount is much better and deeper this year. The offense has added Namdar and Scott, Mitchell and Meacham are better than last year - so those are major upgrades from the Offense climbing on KBs back going for a ride. In addition, the defense (especially the Dline) is much improved from last year. Plus another major improvement is Kocheff. He has been playing really well.

[Ric]

You guys are tremendously funny. Sorry I'm not around more but going through Dexter on Netflix is very important right now. As far as social media, you can follow my unbelievably insightful opinions on twitter. That's usually good for a picture or two from every game. As for the playoffs, by looking at the NCAA's seedings, I disagree Mount will be traveling to Texas. If MHB isn't the number one seed in their own region I don't think they'll be an overall one or two. But I've been wrong before. About every decade. And it's almost up. On Saturday, I'm expecting a good game. I have some friends that played at JCU. Ryan DeGeorge has become a buddy and Brian Brooke is a really good guy. So my condolences to them come Saturday afternoon. As far as highchairs go, My wife and I are planning on having a couple Hood Burgers at about 5pm Saturday. So if anyone wants to save me a couple bar stools and help getting up on one that will be appreciated.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

You guys are tremendously funny. Sorry I'm not around more but going through Dexter on Netflix is very important right now. As far as social media, you can follow my unbelievably insightful opinions on twitter. That's usually good for a picture or two from every game. As for the playoffs, by looking at the NCAA's seedings, I disagree Mount will be traveling to Texas. If MHB isn't the number one seed in their own region I don't think they'll be an overall one or two. But I've been wrong before. About every decade. And it's almost up. On Saturday, I'm expecting a good game. I have some friends that played at JCU. Ryan DeGeorge has become a buddy and Brian Brooke is a really good guy. So my condolences to them come Saturday afternoon. As far as highchairs go, My wife and I are planning on having a couple Hood Burgers at about 5pm Saturday. So if anyone wants to save me a couple bar stools and help getting up on one that will be appreciated.

You will be very disappointed in the Dexter Series Finale.  Great show, but terrible ending.

[Toph]

The only thing I take from that quote is that I would be very concerned as a Capital fan. If the business end of a 64 point beating is considered "marginal success," I would hate to know what my head coach considers failure.

[Craft_Beermeister]

Mount Union 37 JCU 25 is the predicted score for Saturday's game on
ATOMIC FOOTBALL RANKINGS
College football computer polls; rankings and game predictions

http://www.al.com/atomic-football/index.ssf?d3-predictions

[ExTartanPlayer]

The only thing I take from that quote is that I would be very concerned as a Capital fan. If the business end of a 64 point beating is considered "marginal success," I would hate to know what my head coach considers failure.

I would've understood where he was coming from if Capital (a bad team this year trying to rebuild) had any kind of early game success. A team can be on the wrong end of a lopsided final score and still take some good things away from the game if they land a few punches of their own - a couple of sustained drives, a few stops (I watched a Cal-Ohio State game last year that was a good example; a very young and marginally talented Cal team went down 21-0, then traded scores for most of the second quarter and went into halftime down 34-21 and very much "alive").  There's more to a game than just the final score.

But then I looked at the Capital-JCU box score and I'm not sure where Capital had any marginal success at all against JCU. It was 35-0 at the end of the first quarter, and JCU might have scored on every first half possession (plus two special teams scores).  So it definitely doesn't dovetail with the coaches' comment.

[mr_mom]

Mount Union 37 JCU 25 is the predicted score for Saturday's game on
ATOMIC FOOTBALL RANKINGS
College football computer polls; rankings and game predictions

http://www.al.com/atomic-football/index.ssf?d3-predictions

OK, if you are into that ... might as well have full disclosure:

Atomic:  MUC 37-25
Massey:  MUC 42-30
Smart:  MUC 17.3-6.5
Pugh:  MUC 39-30

Reid: MUC by 13.5
Laz:  MUC by 6.7
Born:  MUC by 10.7
Kirkpatrick: MUC by 10.3

Pick-Ems:
AO:  MUC by 15.5
Mr_Mom: MUC by 14.5
Wally_Wabash:  MUC by 14.5
FCGrizzliesGrad:  MUC by 10.5

[SaintsFAN]

The only thing I take from that quote is that I would be very concerned as a Capital fan. If the business end of a 64 point beating is considered "marginal success," I would hate to know what my head coach considers failure.

I would've understood where he was coming from if Capital (a bad team this year trying to rebuild) had any kind of early game success. A team can be on the wrong end of a lopsided final score and still take some good things away from the game if they land a few punches of their own - a couple of sustained drives, a few stops (I watched a Cal-Ohio State game last year that was a good example; a very young and marginally talented Cal team went down 21-0, then traded scores for most of the second quarter and went into halftime down 34-21 and very much "alive").  There's more to a game than just the final score.

But then I looked at the Capital-JCU box score and I'm not sure where Capital had any marginal success at all against JCU. It was 35-0 at the end of the first quarter, and JCU might have scored on every first half possession (plus two special teams scores).  So it definitely doesn't dovetail with the coaches' comment.

maybe he felt like the team didn't quit ?