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SaintsFAN

Quote from: Ric on November 13, 2014, 12:34:00 PM
You guys are tremendously funny. Sorry I'm not around more but going through Dexter on Netflix is very important right now. As far as social media, you can follow my unbelievably insightful opinions on twitter. That's usually good for a picture or two from every game. As for the playoffs, by looking at the NCAA's seedings, I disagree Mount will be traveling to Texas. If MHB isn't the number one seed in their own region I don't think they'll be an overall one or two. But I've been wrong before. About every decade. And it's almost up. On Saturday, I'm expecting a good game. I have some friends that played at JCU. Ryan DeGeorge has become a buddy and Brian Brooke is a really good guy. So my condolences to them come Saturday afternoon. As far as highchairs go, My wife and I are planning on having a couple Hood Burgers at about 5pm Saturday. So if anyone wants to save me a couple bar stools and help getting up on one that will be appreciated.

If Cora wasn't only 7 months old at this point, I'd totally be in Alliance for this game and would love to meet you and Mrs Ric at The Hood on Saturday evening.  Raincheck.  Don't feel bad about the high chair comment, you can always tell some fat jokes about me. 
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Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 14, 2014, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 13, 2014, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Toph on November 13, 2014, 10:00:59 PM
The only thing I take from that quote is that I would be very concerned as a Capital fan. If the business end of a 64 point beating is considered "marginal success," I would hate to know what my head coach considers failure.

I would've understood where he was coming from if Capital (a bad team this year trying to rebuild) had any kind of early game success. A team can be on the wrong end of a lopsided final score and still take some good things away from the game if they land a few punches of their own - a couple of sustained drives, a few stops (I watched a Cal-Ohio State game last year that was a good example; a very young and marginally talented Cal team went down 21-0, then traded scores for most of the second quarter and went into halftime down 34-21 and very much "alive").  There's more to a game than just the final score.

But then I looked at the Capital-JCU box score and I'm not sure where Capital had any marginal success at all against JCU. It was 35-0 at the end of the first quarter, and JCU might have scored on every first half possession (plus two special teams scores).  So it definitely doesn't dovetail with the coaches' comment.

maybe he felt like the team didn't quit ?

Right, but I was thinking in the context of comparing Mount and JCU.

His comment would've made some sense if, say, Capital had moved the ball on JCU a few times early before a turnover stopped the drive, or if they'd forced JCU into a few three and outs, versus my doing that against Mount. Then I'd get the "we ha some marginal success against JCU but couldn't do anything with Mount" comment. But they couldn't do anything with JCU either.
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Quote from: Ric on November 13, 2014, 12:34:00 PM
You guys are tremendously funny. Sorry I'm not around more but going through Dexter on Netflix is very important right now. As far as social media, you can follow my unbelievably insightful opinions on twitter. That's usually good for a picture or two from every game. As for the playoffs, by looking at the NCAA's seedings, I disagree Mount will be traveling to Texas.

We don't have Mount traveling to Texas either. Someone is going to have to beat Mount Union in Alliance, and then the next year Mount Union might travel.
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I pulled myself away from Dexter last night long enough to watch the tape of last year's game. JCU really made a number of mistakes that resulted in leaving points on the field. Poor clock management at the end of the half, with the clock running out with them at the two, an INT in the end zone ending another drive, and motion on 3rd and inches inside the ten, resulting in a 3rd and five incomplete pass and field goal. And the game ended on downs for them at MTU's 15. Not to say Mount didn't make mistakes as well, but after watching that game, if all else is equal and JCU cleans up its act, this could be a great game. I haven't seen the Blue Streaks this year to know how better they are and I know Mount is a whole lot better than last year, but this one could come down to who has the ball last. But I do feel like if Mount gets ahead 28-10 at the half again your final will be more like a three touchdown win rather than a one score game.

Ric

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 14, 2014, 09:08:25 AM
If Cora wasn't only 7 months old at this point, I'd totally be in Alliance for this game and would love to meet you and Mrs Ric at The Hood on Saturday evening.  Raincheck.  Don't feel bad about the high chair comment, you can always tell some fat jokes about me.

That would be awesome!

Craft_Beermeister

Quote from: mr_mom on November 14, 2014, 12:57:18 AM
Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on November 13, 2014, 10:20:04 PM
Mount Union 37 JCU 25 is the predicted score for Saturday's game on
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Atomic:  MUC 37-25
Massey:  MUC 42-30
Smart:  MUC 17.3-6.5
Pugh:  MUC 39-30

Reid: MUC by 13.5
Laz:  MUC by 6.7
Born:  MUC by 10.7
Kirkpatrick: MUC by 10.3

Pick-Ems:
AO:  MUC by 15.5
Mr_Mom: MUC by 14.5
Wally_Wabash:  MUC by 14.5
FCGrizzliesGrad:  MUC by 10.5

Mr_Mom your always on top of things.  Thanks for all the listings.

Craft_Beermeister

I think Mike Myers is a very good QB and a good guy so I wish him luck in tomorrows game though I think he will come out on the losing end.

Meyers at 6'5" has a lot of the tools one seeks in a QB and I'm sure he is getting some looks for the possibility of playing in the NFL.  As a former Division 1 QB it is obvious why he gets a lot of attention.

I recall Mount Union in the past having a lot of success against teams with Division 1 transfers even ones that were ridiculously loaded with Division 1 and other transfers.  Mount won the 1996 Stag Bowl against Rowan who that year had 19 Division I transfers or a total of 47 transfers from all levels, including Division II, III and junior colleges.  Gus Ornstein, a former quarterback at Notre Dame and Michigan State lead that team.

All this has little to do with tomorrows game but it is fun to reflect back on what teams have tried to do to compete with Mount Union for the title.  Rowan is an interesting school that made a pretty good run at the national championship for about 5 or 6 years in a row shortly after Henry Rowan and his wife, Betty, donated $100 million to the school in 1992 and got the name changed from Glassboro Univ. to Rowan College, but was never able to buy a championship.

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Walt

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 14, 2014, 09:24:55 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 14, 2014, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on November 13, 2014, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Toph on November 13, 2014, 10:00:59 PM
The only thing I take from that quote is that I would be very concerned as a Capital fan. If the business end of a 64 point beating is considered "marginal success," I would hate to know what my head coach considers failure.

I would've understood where he was coming from if Capital (a bad team this year trying to rebuild) had any kind of early game success. A team can be on the wrong end of a lopsided final score and still take some good things away from the game if they land a few punches of their own - a couple of sustained drives, a few stops (I watched a Cal-Ohio State game last year that was a good example; a very young and marginally talented Cal team went down 21-0, then traded scores for most of the second quarter and went into halftime down 34-21 and very much "alive").  There's more to a game than just the final score.

But then I looked at the Capital-JCU box score and I'm not sure where Capital had any marginal success at all against JCU. It was 35-0 at the end of the first quarter, and JCU might have scored on every first half possession (plus two special teams scores).  So it definitely doesn't dovetail with the coaches' comment.

maybe he felt like the team didn't quit ?

Right, but I was thinking in the context of comparing Mount and JCU.

His comment would've made some sense if, say, Capital had moved the ball on JCU a few times early before a turnover stopped the drive, or if they'd forced JCU into a few three and outs, versus my doing that against Mount. Then I'd get the "we ha some marginal success against JCU but couldn't do anything with Mount" comment. But they couldn't do anything with JCU either.

Cap had a 69 yd drive against JCU's first team defense (albeit after JCU was up 30-40 points) which started at the end of the 1st Q and ended with a TD early in the 2nd Q.

Cap didn't have 69 yds of total offense against Mount.

In 2013 when Cap played JCU, they were completely suffocated.  Not a single thing went Cap's way.  This season, Cap's game against Mount felt the same way.  It appeared that Mount had 14 players on the field.

JCU dominated Cap but Cap helped them out quite a bit as our special teams looked like a NFL Follies highlight video.  Cap had a few first downs and a very, I mean very, small degree of offensive success, who  is more than they had against Mount.

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Craft_Beermeister

Don Shula's grandson is defensive coordinator for John Carrol.  Good article on him in the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2014/11/chris_shula_extends_don_shulas.html

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Quote from: Walt on November 14, 2014, 01:37:06 PM

Cap had a 69 yd drive against JCU's first team defense (albeit after JCU was up 30-40 points) which started at the end of the 1st Q and ended with a TD early in the 2nd Q.

Cap didn't have 69 yds of total offense against Mount.

In 2013 when Cap played JCU, they were completely suffocated.  Not a single thing went Cap's way.  This season, Cap's game against Mount felt the same way.  It appeared that Mount had 14 players on the field.

JCU dominated Cap but Cap helped them out quite a bit as our special teams looked like a NFL Follies highlight video.  Cap had a few first downs and a very, I mean very, small degree of offensive success, who  is more than they had against Mount.

I just found it an odd comment to make.  I don't have a problem with Candeto saying he thinks Mount is a better team than JCU.  That may well be true.  I just fail to see any success for Capital in that game.  JCU scored at will, blocked three (!) punts, and save for one long drive, defended very well.  Yeah, Cap had a lot of rushing yards, but they ran the ball 51 (!!) times to get there.

I'm sure Tom Arth is not as petty and vindictive as I would be, but in 2015 I would leave my starters in an extra quarter or until they hit 100 points (which could've been done easily this season), and then I would work "marginal success" into every single answer I gave in the press conference. 

But again, I am a small, vindictive man. 

Craft_Beermeister

Good News.

Joe Tait will do the play-by-play for SportsTime Ohio's delayed broadcast of Mount Union's football showdown against John Carroll. STO will carry the game at 11 p.m. Saturday, and again at 5 a.m. and 12 p.m. on Monday.

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2014/11/joe_tait_returns_to_broadcast.html

Tait has been broadcasting Mount Union games since 1985.

MUCRaker

Yes!!! This will be done the old fashioned way!  Stick it to em Mount, and remember the Streak is not Blue!!
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bleedpurple

Quote from: Toph on November 14, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Walt on November 14, 2014, 01:37:06 PM

Cap had a 69 yd drive against JCU's first team defense (albeit after JCU was up 30-40 points) which started at the end of the 1st Q and ended with a TD early in the 2nd Q.

Cap didn't have 69 yds of total offense against Mount.

In 2013 when Cap played JCU, they were completely suffocated.  Not a single thing went Cap's way.  This season, Cap's game against Mount felt the same way.  It appeared that Mount had 14 players on the field.

JCU dominated Cap but Cap helped them out quite a bit as our special teams looked like a NFL Follies highlight video.  Cap had a few first downs and a very, I mean very, small degree of offensive success, who  is more than they had against Mount.

I just found it an odd comment to make.  I don't have a problem with Candeto saying he thinks Mount is a better team than JCU.  That may well be true.  I just fail to see any success for Capital in that game.  JCU scored at will, blocked three (!) punts, and save for one long drive, defended very well.  Yeah, Cap had a lot of rushing yards, but they ran the ball 51 (!!) times to get there.

I'm sure Tom Arth is not as petty and vindictive as I would be, but in 2015 I would leave my starters in an extra quarter or until they hit 100 points (which could've been done easily this season), and then I would work "marginal success" into every single answer I gave in the press conference. 

But again, I am a small, vindictive man.
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I'm guessing he isn't either! 😊 on the other hand I doubt you would be either if you were the coach and not "just" one of us. Besides, wouldn't it be more satisfying and convincing if JCU proved it tomorrow against Mount instead of next year?