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LadyBear

Quote from: reality check on November 18, 2015, 10:17:57 PM
Freed has been hurt.  Was injured mid-game as was described.  He's practicing again.  I don't know if that means Franklin prepares for both or not as they are very different quarterbacks. 

Luckily, spurrier doesn't speak for all polar bears.

Johnson is a more complete QB. Price numbers went through the roof once Johnson was inserted and while he does a good job going through his progressions, his running threat has opened up great opportunities for Magazine.
Go Lady Polar Bears! Beat Mount Union!!

reality check

Ladybear

We remember how much you loved RJIII in the pre-season.  Price had 3 100 yard games with Freed and 3 100 yard games with Johnson.  He averaged 7 catches a game from Freed and about 7.7 receptions a game under Johnson.

Yes Johnson gives the QB position a real threat on the ground but Price was doing just fine when Freed was taking the snaps.  Magazine seems to have benefited the most from Johnson being at QB.  That I can agree on.  His two 200 yard games on the season have come with Johnson at the helm.
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950

Desertraider

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 18, 2015, 11:47:40 PM
Quote from: desertraider on November 18, 2015, 02:57:21 PM
Quote from: spurrier on November 18, 2015, 02:53:01 PM
polar bears don't  comment on team injuries...on to Franklin

Polar Bears better show-up at Franklin. I expect a win - or a really bad loss. Sorry, the Polar Bears seem to have a 'feast or famine' history.

It doesn't seem like a loss would be that surprising. And why would it be a bad loss? Franklin would probably be the second or third best team in the OAC most years and that's what Ohio Northern is this year. Seems like a toss up to me.

As I said ONU seems to be feast or famine. It would be a bad loss because when they lose it seems to be that way. Plus, in playoff football all losses are bad because you are done.
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Desertraider

RIP MUC57 - Go Everybody!
National Champions: 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015, 2017
The Autumn Wind is a Raider!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEYK_XjyLg
Immaculate Prevention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZLq_acsVN0

LadyBear

Quote from: reality check on November 19, 2015, 12:55:03 AM
Ladybear

We remember how much you loved RJIII in the pre-season.  Price had 3 100 yard games with Freed and 3 100 yard games with Johnson.  He averaged 7 catches a game from Freed and about 7.7 receptions a game under Johnson.

Yes Johnson gives the QB position a real threat on the ground but Price was doing just fine when Freed was taking the snaps.  Magazine seems to have benefited the most from Johnson being at QB.  That I can agree on.  His two 200 yard games on the season have come with Johnson at the helm.

Reality Check,

I first want to say that I check in here often to get yours and others take on the program because while I have been around football my whole life, I don't follow our program as closely as you, so this isn't a rebuttal - it's just my take.

I mentioned in an earlier post that, admittedly, I was excited about the prospect of Johnson in the preseason, but after personally watching Freed in the first game, I fully supported the decision to place him at starter. After following subsequent games I found Freed to be limited in his pocket movement/awareness and seemingly locked on his first read, which usually was Allen, but I was following online/radio, so again I was fine.

I attended the Halloween game at ONU and (quality of competition notwithstanding) Johnson has more tools, seems to have a greater IQ relative to his decision making and his mobility has significantly reduced the 3 and outs we regularly saw from Freed.

To say the Price has accomplished the same thing with Johnson in half the time he accomplished with Freed is my point exactly.

Now, I think this discussion is like do you watch Grey's Anatomy or Law and Order (my two all time favorite shows:)). Both QB's have performed well, but Freed's inability to score in redzone situations is concerning to me. Even in the game I attended I think he had 431 yards of passing yards, but only netted 21 points. ONU is 100% is redzone scoring since Johnson took the helm. Defenses have to spy RJIII which creates mismatches all over the field.

All that said, it my belief that when Freed is healthy he will once again be the starter, I am not exactly sure why, but that's what I think.
Go Lady Polar Bears! Beat Mount Union!!

wally_wabash

I move to officially retire the FirstInitialLastInitialJersey# system of assigning nicknames.  It has had a nice run.  Time to find something new. 
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edward de vere

I second WW1's motion.   ;D

In fact, I came thisclose to writing the same thing just the other day.

However, this has about as much chance of happening as does the elimination of the suffix "gate" from every new crime and scandal.


Desertraider

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 19, 2015, 12:52:12 PM
I move to officially retire the FirstInitialLastInitialJersey# system of assigning nicknames.  It has had a nice run.  Time to find something new.


In reference to whom?
RIP MUC57 - Go Everybody!
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The Autumn Wind is a Raider!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEYK_XjyLg
Immaculate Prevention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZLq_acsVN0

wally_wabash

Quote from: desertraider on November 19, 2015, 01:38:32 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 19, 2015, 12:52:12 PM
I move to officially retire the FirstInitialLastInitialJersey# system of assigning nicknames.  It has had a nice run.  Time to find something new.


In reference to whom?

All of them?
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Desertraider

Ok. But it seemed like a random post and was wondering what it was in response to.
RIP MUC57 - Go Everybody!
National Champions: 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015, 2017
The Autumn Wind is a Raider!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEYK_XjyLg
Immaculate Prevention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZLq_acsVN0

jknezek

Quote from: desertraider on November 19, 2015, 01:42:54 PM
Ok. But it seemed like a random post and was wondering what it was in response to.
The RJIII moniker for the ONU QB...

wally_wabash

"RJ3" caught my eye today, but honestly, it's time to let this go.  It's tired. 
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Desertraider

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 19, 2015, 01:47:00 PM
"RJ3" caught my eye today, but honestly, it's time to let this go.  It's tired.

The problem is that his name is Ricardo Johnson III...and his jersey # is 1. So RJIII is really just an abbreviated name while "RJ1" would meet the name+# criteria.
RIP MUC57 - Go Everybody!
National Champions: 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015, 2017
The Autumn Wind is a Raider!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEYK_XjyLg
Immaculate Prevention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZLq_acsVN0

wally_wabash

Quote from: desertraider on November 19, 2015, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 19, 2015, 01:47:00 PM
"RJ3" caught my eye today, but honestly, it's time to let this go.  It's tired.

The problem is that his name is Ricardo Johnson III...and his jersey # is 1. So RJIII is really just an abbreviated name while "RJ1" would meet the name+# criteria.

Same difference, really.  Intials+# is worn out.  We can do better.   :)
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reality check

LadyBear

Your response was solid.  The analysis was pretty much on point and I think that Johnson does give the Bears a dual threat that has in turn opened things up even more for Magazine.  I still disagree on Price.  He was just fine in the 5.5 games he played with Freed versus the 4.5 games he played with Johnson.  He had 151 yards on 6 catches in the first half of the CAP game that Freed got hurt in.  Johnson handed him the ball a couple times in the second half but didn't complete pass to Price in that second half. 

That said, the offense seemed to really find itself once Johnson took over.  They were doing well in the first half of the season but kicked it up a notch in the scoring department under Johnson which has made a huge difference in scoring.
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950