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gizzmo13

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
Surely the UWW/UWO game from last week is more indicative than any game from October is. The margin of the two Oshkosh games were similar but the style of the game was significantly different. The guy who is UWW's No. 1 receiver now had just two catches vs. Platteville.
And 0 catches for 0 yards against mount. Guess he was stuck on Jonesisland!!!

wesleydad

Quote from: raiderpa on December 13, 2015, 12:11:34 AM
Another interesting stat....
WWW had 206 yards at half...finished with 250 and change

what a D..

And I believe they had half of that after the first 2 drives.  Great job by Mount D yesterday.  Looks like they will need a similar effort against the mountain of an O line that St. Thomas has; they are some big boys.

joelmama

Quote from: raiderpa on December 13, 2015, 12:11:34 AM
Another interesting stat....
WWW had 206 yards at half...finished with 250 and change

what a D..
Half their yards came on 3 plays.  Pass to TE, Run off the edge and the tipped pass.  Other than those 3 they had about 2.5 YPP.

D3Warhawk

Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 13, 2015, 04:02:23 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
Surely the UWW/UWO game from last week is more indicative than any game from October is. The margin of the two Oshkosh games were similar but the style of the game was significantly different. The guy who is UWW's No. 1 receiver now had just two catches vs. Platteville.
And 0 catches for 0 yards against mount. Guess he was stuck on Jonesisland!!!

Take a look at the past couple years and Jones Island was letting everything and anything to be caught on it.

Not gonna say I called the How To Beat Whitewater in this thread by sustaining long drives, but Mt did exactly what I thought they needed to do. Heck of a team they are.

gizzmo13

Quote from: D3Warhawk on December 13, 2015, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 13, 2015, 04:02:23 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
Surely the UWW/UWO game from last week is more indicative than any game from October is. The margin of the two Oshkosh games were similar but the style of the game was significantly different. The guy who is UWW's No. 1 receiver now had just two catches vs. Platteville.
And 0 catches for 0 yards against mount. Guess he was stuck on Jonesisland!!!

Take a look at the past couple years and Jones Island was letting everything and anything to be caught on it.

Not gonna say I called the How To Beat Whitewater in this thread by sustaining long drives, but Mt did exactly what I thought they needed to do. Heck of a team they are.
You also had a 6"5 nfl caliber wr, that's tough to guard at 5"9.

footballfan413

Wow, just wow.......
    Having not seen the Warhawks play, up close and personal, until the 2nd and 3rd round, I admit to having my doubts about a W yesterday but having said that, holding UWW to no TD's  blew my mind.  The Raiders were so impressive in all phases, (yes, DEFENSE does win championships,)  ;D and won the LOS on both sides. 
Congrats on a terrific game and huge win.  No question who was the better team yesterday.  :)
"Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!"  Dennis Miller

"Three things you don't want to be in football, slow, small and friendly!"  John Madden

"You can learn more character on the two-yard line than anywhere else in
life." Paul Dietzel / LSU

D3Warhawk

Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 13, 2015, 11:53:35 AM
Quote from: D3Warhawk on December 13, 2015, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 13, 2015, 04:02:23 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
Surely the UWW/UWO game from last week is more indicative than any game from October is. The margin of the two Oshkosh games were similar but the style of the game was significantly different. The guy who is UWW's No. 1 receiver now had just two catches vs. Platteville.
And 0 catches for 0 yards against mount. Guess he was stuck on Jonesisland!!!

Point made.

Take a look at the past couple years and Jones Island was letting everything and anything to be caught on it.

Not gonna say I called the How To Beat Whitewater in this thread by sustaining long drives, but Mt did exactly what I thought they needed to do. Heck of a team they are.
You also had a 6"5 nfl caliber wr, that's tough to guard at 5"9.

hsbsballcoach7

I've been a Mount fan since the 90's as my father was a Mount grad and I'm a recent MUC grad twice (masters) so I'm not as old as a couple of ridiculous fans (maybe 22 years old) were acting in my section. We were right beside the UWW section and it seemed that some recent grad had a serious grudge with UWW and was saying some nasty things. He was making fun of injuries for the Warhawks and even made fun of a player who may have had a concussion. I was upset that he was saying those things as I've seen some nasty stuff as a coach and you never wish that on anyone!  Those fans do not represent the whole, but we seem to have many that were taking the previous losses personally.

I will say it was an amazing atmosphere for the pre game and game itself!

Now onto St Thomas. I feel the same way about them as I felt about WW last week,but I think they're tougher on defense and their offense just moves people and Roberts it TOUGH! They are similar to the Purple Raiders, in that, if you make a mistake, they can make you pay and then start to pile on.

Dr. Acula

I re-watched most of the game this morning to refresh myself.  Thoughts:

For all the talk of "greatest ever" defense I think one thing that was proven yesterday was that this is one of the best O lines Mount has had.  I won't throw out "best ever" status, but they certainly need to be recognized for how well they've played all season.  Yesterday was the best I've seen a Raider O line play in years.

The 31 yard TD pass to Namdar to make it 7-6 was the biggest pass of Scott's career.  UWW had moved the ball both of their first two drives and Mount needed to put something together to answer.  Namdar blew by the coverage and Scott absolutely had to hit that pass and make them pay for a rare mistake.  He did.  And he knew it as soon as he released it because he was hopping around toward the sideline getting ready to celebrate.  Scott didn't light it up for 300 yards, but he did exactly what this team needs him to do...make some plays with his legs, hit a couple big plays in the air and don't turn it over.  Great job by Scott.

Nemeth is turning into an all-time folk tale in Mount history.  He pays his dues, just keeps waiting and running hard when he gets his carries...and then when his number is called to carry the load half way through his senior year he grabs the ball and takes over.  Going back to the JCU game he has rushed for 929 yards on 119 carries in 5 games.  7.8 yds/carry in their 5 biggest games.  He has been an absolute difference maker down the stretch.  He has single-handedly changed their offense to more of a power read-option look.  It's like the child of Mount's offense last year and UWW's offense.

I will be the first to admit that I was wrong about this D matching up with UWW.  The entire unit played lights out, but I thought the D line played exceptionally well.  Alarms had several big sacks/pressures.  Lally and Vidal were unbelievable in the middle.  Vidal is going to be a good one.  That kid can play.  Spencer and Gonell were flying around all day making plays.  One time in particular UWW ran a little screen to Ratliffe which I was waiting for given how VK and Kappas were dialing up the pressure.  Gonell sniffed it out and made the tackle after 6ish yards.  A solid gain, but little plays like that are huge as we saw last year against UWW.




ron doney

Quote from: bushman on December 12, 2015, 08:42:33 PM
It appears to me that Caruso builds his teams like rowan of old use to with a lot of DI and DII transfers.  This is legal but somehow  it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  Just my two cents worth. GO RAIDERS

Eh, that's not a black and white conversation. This year Roberts wasn't a grander recruit - he came to the seminary first.  And let's not forget the last MIAC team that beat Mount - SJU - had a handful of North Dakota transfers that took them to the next level.  Point is, if you are a good program at D3 you are gonna get transfers. If you can do something with them - like make it to Salem, that shouldn't count against you.
The last shall be first and the shall be.......

miac952

Quote from: ron doney on December 13, 2015, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: bushman on December 12, 2015, 08:42:33 PM
It appears to me that Caruso builds his teams like rowan of old use to with a lot of DI and DII transfers.  This is legal but somehow  it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  Just my two cents worth. GO RAIDERS

Eh, that's not a black and white conversation. This year Roberts wasn't a grander recruit - he came to the seminary first.  And let's not forget the last MIAC team that beat Mount - SJU - had a handful of North Dakota transfers that took them to the next level.  Point is, if you are a good program at D3 you are gonna get transfers. If you can do something with them - like make it to Salem, that shouldn't count against you.

Not a science but after looking nice at rosters from what I can tell MU has 5 or so D1, D2 transfers. Two from Toledo, 2 from Notre Dame Ohio, and 1 other. UST has Roberts and it looks like an O lineman from Florida intl. might be one more on either side I am missing but it clearly shows its not a "thing" or "program builder" as noted previously by either team. Surprised at where that basis even would have come from. Strange

bleedpurple

Congratulations to the Purple Raiders for an awesome performance yesterday.  Speed kills.  Their execution was excellent.  The atmosphere in Alliance was great. It is a beautiful campus as well.  Outside of one very loud fan who seemed to enjoy taunting UW-W more than cheering for the Purple Raiders, the crowd seemed great. UW-W was unafraid and they never quit. Mount was just that good yesterday.  Good luck in the Stagg Bowl.   

joelmama

Quote from: miac952 on December 13, 2015, 05:36:45 PM
Quote from: ron doney on December 13, 2015, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: bushman on December 12, 2015, 08:42:33 PM
It appears to me that Caruso builds his teams like rowan of old use to with a lot of DI and DII transfers.  This is legal but somehow  it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  Just my two cents worth. GO RAIDERS

Eh, that's not a black and white conversation. This year Roberts wasn't a grander recruit - he came to the seminary first.  And let's not forget the last MIAC team that beat Mount - SJU - had a handful of North Dakota transfers that took them to the next level.  Point is, if you are a good program at D3 you are gonna get transfers. If you can do something with them - like make it to Salem, that shouldn't count against you.
You can 100% discount any transfer that came from Notre Dame College.  Mount straight up would beat them by 30.

Not a science but after looking nice at rosters from what I can tell MU has 5 or so D1, D2 transfers. Two from Toledo, 2 from Notre Dame Ohio, and 1 other. UST has Roberts and it looks like an O lineman from Florida intl. might be one more on either side I am missing but it clearly shows its not a "thing" or "program builder" as noted previously by either team. Surprised at where that basis even would have come from. Strange

Dr. Acula

Quote from: bleedpurple on December 13, 2015, 05:40:56 PM
Congratulations to the Purple Raiders for an awesome performance yesterday.  Speed kills.  Their execution was excellent.  The atmosphere in Alliance was great. It is a beautiful campus as well.  Outside of one very loud fan who seemed to enjoy taunting UW-W more than cheering for the Purple Raiders, the crowd seemed great. UW-W was unafraid and they never quit. Mount was just that good yesterday.  Good luck in the Stagg Bowl.

Unfortunately I can tell you there's been a very small, but very vocal band of idiots embarrassing us for years.  The faces change, but we can never seem to totally rid of that element.  And for the record, I'm not talking about the purple suit kids.  I'm talking about so called normal adult fans.  Half the time they aren't even Mount students/grads or employees they're just townies.  Any of the old school fans remember "Hammer" from the 90's!

Dr. Acula

Also, I can't say I understand the venom toward UWW.  Obviously we all hate losing to UWW, but we would hate losing to anyone.  At least UWW is a first class program.  Their kids play the right way and LL was always humble despite his success.  Bullis seemed even more humble and low key.  It'd be one thing if someone like Shades Keeler was the HC at UWW, but they're now on their 3rd HC we've seen and all 3 have seemed like good guys.  They're certainly a rival, but I view it more respectfully I guess.  They've earned that by their actions IMO.