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OldAuggie

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Augsburg's Ayrton Scott was contained by UST this year for the most part. I was at the game but from the box score: 194 yds passing and one TD with 51 yds rushing, OK for him that's a bad day. I think UST will contain the UMU Scott, they have had to scheme for Ayrton for the past four years!
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Dr. Acula

If anything happens to Scott my guess is Namdar is taking snaps before Peyakov FWIW. 

tommiegun

UST did hold Scott in check, but he isn't a true barometer because he doesn't have any players around him. 

One thing that hasn't been talked about much is special teams.  Is Mount ready for the behind the back fake field goal?

... but seriously, if UST has a true advantage, it is on special teams.  They really are phenomenal - far more polished than the 2012 UST team who scored on a fake FG in this game.  And the trickeration is only one part.  I think the defenses will have good games - I think field position will matter.  And in that type of a game, one weapon that Mount does not likely have an answer for is the 4th and medium, QB pooch punt.  Gould is really great at it - and it is a frustrating play to cover as because you know, as a defense, there is a better than 0% chance that UST just goes for it.

So whether or not UST runs a special teams' trick play, it is something you really have to prepare for, much more so than for other teams - and not just in your special teams' practice.  The D needs to be ready, too.  IF UST wins, I'd expect that there is at least 1 phenomenal special teams' play, and it wins the field position game.

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Quote from: Alliance72 on December 16, 2015, 08:14:40 PM
Much better than pretty good.  It's a shame he never got to play in the playoffs.  Now, I wish I would've watched some Augsburg games on line.   I guess this was a good year to have a quarterback named Scott.

It's too bad he (Ayrton Scott) never had a decent team around him.  He could have done some real damage.

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Quote from: edward de vere on December 16, 2015, 05:42:19 PM
And speaking of quarterbacks, who is Mount's real next man up Friday night?   We have been told Tommies take great relish in clobbering the QB.

My guess is Roman Namdar would take over. He came to Mount as a QB but he had some guy name Burke ahead of him. Sooooooo what do good players at Mount do... they switch positions to get on the field. Happens all the time. If this were to happen and Namdar becomes QB he will become STU's worst nightmare. He will be throwing bombs to his favorite receiver.....Roman Namdar. He is that quick!
So if STU has any chance of winning the Stagg they better hope that Scott stays healthy.
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Quote from: Dr. Acula on December 17, 2015, 08:53:59 AM
If anything happens to Scott my guess is Namdar is taking snaps before Peyakov FWIW.

I'm sincerely hoping this scenario doesn't come into play (and if it does, all bets are off for how the game goes) but I'm curious - do you think the Mount staff has bothered with Namdar still taking snaps at QB in practice this year?  During the regular season it would seem like a waste - why give the precious practice snaps to an outgoing senior WR when you can give them to an underclassman who will take the reins next year - but in the playoffs, once the gears shift to national-championship-winning, I could see it, if the staff thought Namdar was the best guy & he was still happy to play some QB.
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edward de vere

I would be shocked if Namdar hasn't taken some snaps throughout the year.

Desertraider

Quote from: edward de vere on December 17, 2015, 11:04:29 AM
I would be shocked if Namdar hasn't taken some snaps throughout the year.

I would be surpirsed to see Namdar at QB if Scott goes down. Main reason is that losing Scott would hurt Mount at QB and losing Namdar would hurt Mount at WR by taking away deep threat. Why hurt yourself at 2 positions? I could see Peyakov in because he seems to be the go to. However, I did hear that Kevin Burke recently friended Rocky Pentello.....just saying- ;D
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Quote from: raiderpa on December 17, 2015, 08:02:31 AM
With respect and apologies to UST Benchman:
My scout of the Purples from Alliance

The passing success against Mount Union has been the quick slants and outs.  The qb getting rid of the ball fast and the wr's not giving Mount time to react has worked the best.  The 5 and 7 step drops have consistently been met with strong pressure on the qb and time for very quick db's to react.  As far as the running game, the most success has been with quick traps and dives.  The sideways stretch plays are usually blown up before they get a cut upfield.
I guess, in a nutshell, you must strike quickly before Mount has time to react and respond.  Slow developing stuff is usually a loss. The backers are quick and sure tacklers.  Rarely a one on one tackle as pursuit is there .  Very few mistakes and missed assignments. Spencer is the qb on defense.  Cerebral and relentless. Kocheff was a Gagliardi semifinalist at roving db/lb ,  D-line may be Mount's best ever, stats back that up.  Lally has been double teamed most games, and still set a single season record for sacks.  At the other end Alarms has been perhaps the most improved player on D. Furda is a d=lineman who drops in coverage and  had a pick against www.  Vidal a young d=lineman who has been good at collapsing the middle.
Best cover corner, possibly in d3 is Tre Jones.  Shut out  WWW best wideout to 0 catches and yards, however has been banged up. Speed is their strength, and reading formations is a real strong suit as they many times shift into the play before it begins. Other d=backs are good, but not Jones calibre.

Defensively, if you do not fill the cut lanes against the stretch, Nemeth will have a field day.  I would put a shadow lb on Scott and make his sole responsibility to make sure Scott's scrambles are kept to a minimum.  Even that is difficult, as he is as slippery as they come and has the ability to leave you tackling air. He may be the best athlete Mount has had at the position.  He was the best athlete on the field in most games this year.  Kennedy is the possession, ala Wes Welker, receiver.  He gets short and medium yards in the clutch. Namdar is thought to be Mount's  next shot at the NFL wideout.  He will most likely get free deep on a couple occasions as he is fast and has amazing hands.  He came to Mount as a QB and a state champion hurdles man in Texas. Sneaky receiver is Hargrove.  Will get you if you are not careful.   TE, usually an afterthought in the passing game and used as a third tackle is big and has been used in past Stagg bowls as a sleeper receiver.
Back up running back is small and runs, jukes, cuts back and is a threat to break away.  He does IMO spend too much time faking and juking instead of getting upfield. He is a nice compliment to Nemeth.

Greatest disaster for Mount is the QB going down. Backup is unproven, no run threat and has not been subjected to much game experience.  Passing skills are relatively unknown.  The kid who did most of the backup is not on playoff roster. Don't know if he is hurt or they thought a frosh wasn't ready to travel to big time.
Kicking game is good, not great.  Kickoff man had 4 or five touchbacks on kickoffs last week, and punter is average, but slow. I am amazed we have not had a punt blocked, hope we don't start now. Place kicker is decent and from 40, maybe 60/40.

Hope this gives you a picture.  Again, apologies for my rabid fandom and meant no malice.  Just an senior citizen alum who loves the Raiders.
Safe travels to the game and I hope both teams play to their potential and we get the best team winning.
Mount Coaches have always been one of the best at in game and halftime adjustments.  This is a strength with such a veteran bunch.

Excellent post. Thanks +K
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Dr. Acula

Quote from: desertraider on December 17, 2015, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: edward de vere on December 17, 2015, 11:04:29 AM
I would be shocked if Namdar hasn't taken some snaps throughout the year.

I would be surpirsed to see Namdar at QB if Scott goes down. Main reason is that losing Scott would hurt Mount at QB and losing Namdar would hurt Mount at WR by taking away deep threat. Why hurt yourself at 2 positions? I could see Peyakov in because he seems to be the go to. However, I did hear that Kevin Burke recently friended Rocky Pentello.....just saying- ;D

I would be absolutely shocked if Peyakov went in.  I'd say Namdar is the best bet and I'd say Lowry would be a better bet than Peyakov honestly.  Your point is valid, but remember, CS3 was moved to QB in an emergency and that's the same scenario.  It'd be different if Peyakov or Lowry had taken meaningful snaps, but neither ever has. 

Desertraider

Quote from: USTBench on December 17, 2015, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: raiderpa on December 17, 2015, 08:02:31 AM
With respect and apologies to UST Benchman:
My scout of the Purples from Alliance

The passing success against Mount Union has been the quick slants and outs.  The qb getting rid of the ball fast and the wr's not giving Mount time to react has worked the best.  The 5 and 7 step drops have consistently been met with strong pressure on the qb and time for very quick db's to react.  As far as the running game, the most success has been with quick traps and dives.  The sideways stretch plays are usually blown up before they get a cut upfield.
I guess, in a nutshell, you must strike quickly before Mount has time to react and respond.  Slow developing stuff is usually a loss. The backers are quick and sure tacklers.  Rarely a one on one tackle as pursuit is there .  Very few mistakes and missed assignments. Spencer is the qb on defense.  Cerebral and relentless. Kocheff was a Gagliardi semifinalist at roving db/lb ,  D-line may be Mount's best ever, stats back that up.  Lally has been double teamed most games, and still set a single season record for sacks.  At the other end Alarms has been perhaps the most improved player on D. Furda is a d=lineman who drops in coverage and  had a pick against www.  Vidal a young d=lineman who has been good at collapsing the middle.
Best cover corner, possibly in d3 is Tre Jones.  Shut out  WWW best wideout to 0 catches and yards, however has been banged up. Speed is their strength, and reading formations is a real strong suit as they many times shift into the play before it begins. Other d=backs are good, but not Jones calibre.

Defensively, if you do not fill the cut lanes against the stretch, Nemeth will have a field day.  I would put a shadow lb on Scott and make his sole responsibility to make sure Scott's scrambles are kept to a minimum.  Even that is difficult, as he is as slippery as they come and has the ability to leave you tackling air. He may be the best athlete Mount has had at the position.  He was the best athlete on the field in most games this year.  Kennedy is the possession, ala Wes Welker, receiver.  He gets short and medium yards in the clutch. Namdar is thought to be Mount's  next shot at the NFL wideout.  He will most likely get free deep on a couple occasions as he is fast and has amazing hands.  He came to Mount as a QB and a state champion hurdles man in Texas. Sneaky receiver is Hargrove.  Will get you if you are not careful.   TE, usually an afterthought in the passing game and used as a third tackle is big and has been used in past Stagg bowls as a sleeper receiver.
Back up running back is small and runs, jukes, cuts back and is a threat to break away.  He does IMO spend too much time faking and juking instead of getting upfield. He is a nice compliment to Nemeth.

Greatest disaster for Mount is the QB going down. Backup is unproven, no run threat and has not been subjected to much game experience.  Passing skills are relatively unknown.  The kid who did most of the backup is not on playoff roster. Don't know if he is hurt or they thought a frosh wasn't ready to travel to big time.
Kicking game is good, not great.  Kickoff man had 4 or five touchbacks on kickoffs last week, and punter is average, but slow. I am amazed we have not had a punt blocked, hope we don't start now. Place kicker is decent and from 40, maybe 60/40.

Hope this gives you a picture.  Again, apologies for my rabid fandom and meant no malice.  Just an senior citizen alum who loves the Raiders.
Safe travels to the game and I hope both teams play to their potential and we get the best team winning.
Mount Coaches have always been one of the best at in game and halftime adjustments.  This is a strength with such a veteran bunch.

Excellent post. Thanks +K

Bench, I am sure you will find most of the Mounties (raiderpa included) to be very receptive to fans  of opponents. However, we do get a few of the "Mount hasn't seen a team like us before" which always leads to back-and-forth, etc. Having said that - you did have some errors in your post (wally is cool ???). But that's ok. I wish the Tommies luck. I know they have seen one Scott and done well with him. Not saying he isn't a great athlete but I would say Mount's Scott is his equal (perhaps) and has a ton of legitimate weapons around him. What makes him difficult is that if you put a spy on him you leave the rest one-on-one with Namdar, Kennedy, Hargrove, Nemeth, BJ etc. It should be a great game.
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Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on December 17, 2015, 10:43:07 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on December 17, 2015, 08:53:59 AM
If anything happens to Scott my guess is Namdar is taking snaps before Peyakov FWIW.

I'm sincerely hoping this scenario doesn't come into play (and if it does, all bets are off for how the game goes) but I'm curious - do you think the Mount staff has bothered with Namdar still taking snaps at QB in practice this year?  During the regular season it would seem like a waste - why give the precious practice snaps to an outgoing senior WR when you can give them to an underclassman who will take the reins next year - but in the playoffs, once the gears shift to national-championship-winning, I could see it, if the staff thought Namdar was the best guy & he was still happy to play some QB.

I think Namdar could actually play again next year if I'm remembering correctly.  He missed the entire 2013 season so I think he'd still have a year of eligibility left. 

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Quote from: Dr. Acula on December 17, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
Quote from: desertraider on December 17, 2015, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: edward de vere on December 17, 2015, 11:04:29 AM
I would be shocked if Namdar hasn't taken some snaps throughout the year.

I would be surpirsed to see Namdar at QB if Scott goes down. Main reason is that losing Scott would hurt Mount at QB and losing Namdar would hurt Mount at WR by taking away deep threat. Why hurt yourself at 2 positions? I could see Peyakov in because he seems to be the go to. However, I did hear that Kevin Burke recently friended Rocky Pentello.....just saying- ;D

I would be absolutely shocked if Peyakov went in.  I'd say Namdar is the best bet and I'd say Lowry would be a better bet than Peyakov honestly.  Your point is valid, but remember, CS3 was moved to QB in an emergency and that's the same scenario.  It'd be different if Peyakov or Lowry had taken meaningful snaps, but neither ever has.

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Quote from: desertraider on December 17, 2015, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: USTBench on December 17, 2015, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: raiderpa on December 17, 2015, 08:02:31 AM
With respect and apologies to UST Benchman:
My scout of the Purples from Alliance

The passing success against Mount Union has been the quick slants and outs.  The qb getting rid of the ball fast and the wr's not giving Mount time to react has worked the best.  The 5 and 7 step drops have consistently been met with strong pressure on the qb and time for very quick db's to react.  As far as the running game, the most success has been with quick traps and dives.  The sideways stretch plays are usually blown up before they get a cut upfield.
I guess, in a nutshell, you must strike quickly before Mount has time to react and respond.  Slow developing stuff is usually a loss. The backers are quick and sure tacklers.  Rarely a one on one tackle as pursuit is there .  Very few mistakes and missed assignments. Spencer is the qb on defense.  Cerebral and relentless. Kocheff was a Gagliardi semifinalist at roving db/lb ,  D-line may be Mount's best ever, stats back that up.  Lally has been double teamed most games, and still set a single season record for sacks.  At the other end Alarms has been perhaps the most improved player on D. Furda is a d=lineman who drops in coverage and  had a pick against www.  Vidal a young d=lineman who has been good at collapsing the middle.
Best cover corner, possibly in d3 is Tre Jones.  Shut out  WWW best wideout to 0 catches and yards, however has been banged up. Speed is their strength, and reading formations is a real strong suit as they many times shift into the play before it begins. Other d=backs are good, but not Jones calibre.

Defensively, if you do not fill the cut lanes against the stretch, Nemeth will have a field day.  I would put a shadow lb on Scott and make his sole responsibility to make sure Scott's scrambles are kept to a minimum.  Even that is difficult, as he is as slippery as they come and has the ability to leave you tackling air. He may be the best athlete Mount has had at the position.  He was the best athlete on the field in most games this year.  Kennedy is the possession, ala Wes Welker, receiver.  He gets short and medium yards in the clutch. Namdar is thought to be Mount's  next shot at the NFL wideout.  He will most likely get free deep on a couple occasions as he is fast and has amazing hands.  He came to Mount as a QB and a state champion hurdles man in Texas. Sneaky receiver is Hargrove.  Will get you if you are not careful.   TE, usually an afterthought in the passing game and used as a third tackle is big and has been used in past Stagg bowls as a sleeper receiver.
Back up running back is small and runs, jukes, cuts back and is a threat to break away.  He does IMO spend too much time faking and juking instead of getting upfield. He is a nice compliment to Nemeth.

Greatest disaster for Mount is the QB going down. Backup is unproven, no run threat and has not been subjected to much game experience.  Passing skills are relatively unknown.  The kid who did most of the backup is not on playoff roster. Don't know if he is hurt or they thought a frosh wasn't ready to travel to big time.
Kicking game is good, not great.  Kickoff man had 4 or five touchbacks on kickoffs last week, and punter is average, but slow. I am amazed we have not had a punt blocked, hope we don't start now. Place kicker is decent and from 40, maybe 60/40.

Hope this gives you a picture.  Again, apologies for my rabid fandom and meant no malice.  Just an senior citizen alum who loves the Raiders.
Safe travels to the game and I hope both teams play to their potential and we get the best team winning.
Mount Coaches have always been one of the best at in game and halftime adjustments.  This is a strength with such a veteran bunch.

Excellent post. Thanks +K

Bench, I am sure you will find most of the Mounties (raiderpa included) to be very receptive to fans  of opponents. However, we do get a few of the "Mount hasn't seen a team like us before" which always leads to back-and-forth, etc. Having said that - you did have some errors in your post (wally is cool ???). But that's ok. I wish the Tommies luck. I know they have seen one Scott and done well with him. Not saying he isn't a great athlete but I would say Mount's Scott is his equal (perhaps) and has a ton of legitimate weapons around him. What makes him difficult is that if you put a spy on him you leave the rest one-on-one with Namdar, Kennedy, Hargrove, Nemeth, BJ etc. It should be a great game.

Definitely. Went to Salem in 2012 and hung out with some old UST players/teammates had a few cold ones in the parking lot with a few old Mount Union players. Great guys. Can't recall who, but one was wearing a National Championship ring with a roman numeral X in what appeared to be diamonds. Everyone was nice, and no one was really arrogant. Good times, until the clock hit 00:00 of course.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 17, 2015, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on December 17, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
Quote from: desertraider on December 17, 2015, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: edward de vere on December 17, 2015, 11:04:29 AM
I would be shocked if Namdar hasn't taken some snaps throughout the year.

I would be surpirsed to see Namdar at QB if Scott goes down. Main reason is that losing Scott would hurt Mount at QB and losing Namdar would hurt Mount at WR by taking away deep threat. Why hurt yourself at 2 positions? I could see Peyakov in because he seems to be the go to. However, I did hear that Kevin Burke recently friended Rocky Pentello.....just saying- ;D

I would be absolutely shocked if Peyakov went in.  I'd say Namdar is the best bet and I'd say Lowry would be a better bet than Peyakov honestly.  Your point is valid, but remember, CS3 was moved to QB in an emergency and that's the same scenario.  It'd be different if Peyakov or Lowry had taken meaningful snaps, but neither ever has.

But did this work?


Umm...no. Thanks. On the meaningful snaps, I agree neither Peyakov or Lowry has had them - but contend that Roman hasn't had them either AND he hasn't lined up at QB in what 3 years?
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