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gizzmo13

Quote from: desertraider on December 18, 2015, 09:59:45 AM
Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 18, 2015, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: desertraider on December 18, 2015, 09:50:16 AM
Looking forward to a great game and a Raider victory tonight. It would be great to see this group of Seniors get bookend titles. I was reading the predictions and saw a lot of mention of Simmet and UST O-line and Lally, Alarms etc on Mounts D and thought about something. Simmet lines up on Mounts left. Lally and Alarms are typically on Mounts right (at least at the games I have been to). I know they move them around and am sure they have game planned this but - Simmet on Furda leaves me feeling uneasy. Furda is a heck of a player but he goes at 220 (ish) with Simmet at 350 :o

Just a thought.
I'm not worried about his size, if hes not quick our ends will blow right past him

Watched a bit of his tape and he is nimble on his feet for 350 but sometimes is slow getting out of his stance. UST has played some great teams this year, and some quick ones too, so we shall see. Regardless I will NEVER use "UST hasn't seen a..........". Cheers to all and +K on a Raider victory!
oh yeah this St Thomas team is as solid as they come they definitely worry me.

Dr. Acula

Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 18, 2015, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: desertraider on December 18, 2015, 09:50:16 AM
Looking forward to a great game and a Raider victory tonight. It would be great to see this group of Seniors get bookend titles. I was reading the predictions and saw a lot of mention of Simmet and UST O-line and Lally, Alarms etc on Mounts D and thought about something. Simmet lines up on Mounts left. Lally and Alarms are typically on Mounts right (at least at the games I have been to). I know they move them around and am sure they have game planned this but - Simmet on Furda leaves me feeling uneasy. Furda is a heck of a player but he goes at 220 (ish) with Simmet at 350 :o

Just a thought.
I'm not worried about his size, if hes not quick our ends will blow right past him

So did Linfield's DE and UST just ran inside of him all day.  That's why IMO Lally and Vidal are the biggest factor tonight.  If they can jam up the middle like they did against UWW it will be a big win for Mount's D.  I don't think they even need those two to necessarily make a bunch of big plays.  Just don't get blown off the ball so other guys can make plays close to the LOS.  A tall task given UST's line.   

skunks_sidekick

Hey SF!

Read your analysis and prediction.  I think it's pretty spot on. 

Skunk has already called this morning, making sure I am ready to host a great tailgate party in my TV room tonight.  Jr. will be here (and thank the college gods he managed to get a 3.2 while still exploring all that OU had to offer HA HA), and possibly Raiderguy? 

This has the makings of a really good one, and here's hoping for a Mount victory.  Bookends for the seniors, and #12 up in the Dom Capers press box. 

miac952

Quote from: HScoach on December 18, 2015, 07:28:48 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 17, 2015, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 17, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
If I had to point to one telling stat that will determine this Stagg...

Mount 1 turnover or less = WIN
Mount 2+ turnovers = UGH

And someone who posted that Mount's kicker is good from "40 yards in" must have NOT been watching the kicker I saw the last three weeks.  Solid on xpt, but FG's are iffy beyond 25-30.  I haven't looked it up, but what are his stats for the year?

Caruso is 26-2 at UST when his team scores on a blocked kick, INT, or punt/kick return.

26-2?  That's pretty impressive.

For what it's worth,  Coach Kehres, the younger and less accomplished Kehres,  is 42-2 when they walk onto the field.

Ha! Never really understood some of those record stats. 26-2 isn't terribly different than caruso's overall win % so does it really tell you anything or is it just correlation. I guess statisticians have to go deep these days to keep us engaged.

jamtod

Quote from: HScoach on December 18, 2015, 07:28:48 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 17, 2015, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 17, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
If I had to point to one telling stat that will determine this Stagg...

Mount 1 turnover or less = WIN
Mount 2+ turnovers = UGH

And someone who posted that Mount's kicker is good from "40 yards in" must have NOT been watching the kicker I saw the last three weeks.  Solid on xpt, but FG's are iffy beyond 25-30.  I haven't looked it up, but what are his stats for the year?

Caruso is 26-2 at UST when his team scores on a blocked kick, INT, or punt/kick return.

26-2?  That's pretty impressive.

For what it's worth,  Coach Kehres, the younger and less accomplished Kehres,  is 42-2 when they walk onto the field.

That's an excellent point.  These stats about a team being 843-0 when they score 50+ points, have 4+ turnovers in their favor, hold their opponent < 10 always amuse me.  In most of those cases, the team's overall record isn't all that different from this uber-important stat record.

jamtod

Quote from: miac952 on December 18, 2015, 10:53:40 AM
Quote from: HScoach on December 18, 2015, 07:28:48 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 17, 2015, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 17, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
If I had to point to one telling stat that will determine this Stagg...

Mount 1 turnover or less = WIN
Mount 2+ turnovers = UGH

And someone who posted that Mount's kicker is good from "40 yards in" must have NOT been watching the kicker I saw the last three weeks.  Solid on xpt, but FG's are iffy beyond 25-30.  I haven't looked it up, but what are his stats for the year?

Caruso is 26-2 at UST when his team scores on a blocked kick, INT, or punt/kick return.

26-2?  That's pretty impressive.

For what it's worth,  Coach Kehres, the younger and less accomplished Kehres,  is 42-2 when they walk onto the field.

Ha! Never really understood some of those record stats. 26-2 isn't terribly different than caruso's overall win % so does it really tell you anything or is it just correlation. I guess statisticians have to go deep these days to keep us engaged.

Great MIAC minds (UST grad?) think alike :-)

miac952

Quote from: Dr. Acula on December 18, 2015, 10:06:36 AM
Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 18, 2015, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: desertraider on December 18, 2015, 09:50:16 AM
Looking forward to a great game and a Raider victory tonight. It would be great to see this group of Seniors get bookend titles. I was reading the predictions and saw a lot of mention of Simmet and UST O-line and Lally, Alarms etc on Mounts D and thought about something. Simmet lines up on Mounts left. Lally and Alarms are typically on Mounts right (at least at the games I have been to). I know they move them around and am sure they have game planned this but - Simmet on Furda leaves me feeling uneasy. Furda is a heck of a player but he goes at 220 (ish) with Simmet at 350 :o

Just a thought.
I'm not worried about his size, if hes not quick our ends will blow right past him

So did Linfield's DE and UST just ran inside of him all day.  That's why IMO Lally and Vidal are the biggest factor tonight.  If they can jam up the middle like they did against UWW it will be a big win for Mount's D.  I don't think they even need those two to necessarily make a bunch of big plays.  Just don't get blown off the ball so other guys can make plays close to the LOS.  A tall task given UST's line.   

UST is interesting in that they tend to pick a side and hammer it each game when running. But that side varies from game to game. That side has been opposite of Simmet just as much as over him. I would say it ends up leaning 75/25 in how the run plays go from one side vs. the other.

The big thing to me is that UST has played Mount once and Whitewater once. In both games the defense has held up alright but he offense has been completely shutdown. 10 points and avg roughly 200 yards per game in those two is what it amounted too. Is this offense one that can challenge a blue blood like Mount a little more. I hope so, but then I see big time experienced guys like Lally and great depth and wonder.

Looking forward to tonight!

pg04

Quote from: miac952 on December 18, 2015, 10:53:40 AM
Quote from: HScoach on December 18, 2015, 07:28:48 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 17, 2015, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 17, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
If I had to point to one telling stat that will determine this Stagg...

Mount 1 turnover or less = WIN
Mount 2+ turnovers = UGH

And someone who posted that Mount's kicker is good from "40 yards in" must have NOT been watching the kicker I saw the last three weeks.  Solid on xpt, but FG's are iffy beyond 25-30.  I haven't looked it up, but what are his stats for the year?

Caruso is 26-2 at UST when his team scores on a blocked kick, INT, or punt/kick return.

26-2?  That's pretty impressive.

For what it's worth,  Coach Kehres, the younger and less accomplished Kehres,  is 42-2 when they walk onto the field.

Ha! Never really understood some of those record stats. 26-2 isn't terribly different than caruso's overall win % so does it really tell you anything or is it just correlation. I guess statisticians have to go deep these days to keep us engaged.

You beat me to this. I was going to say that his record can't include that many more losses overall regardless of special teams plays.

However, 26-2 vs. 60-11 (all other games at St. Thomas) isn't a negligible difference.  (EDIT: Sorry my counting was off originally)

jamtod

Quote from: miac952 on December 18, 2015, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on December 18, 2015, 10:06:36 AM
Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 18, 2015, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: desertraider on December 18, 2015, 09:50:16 AM
Looking forward to a great game and a Raider victory tonight. It would be great to see this group of Seniors get bookend titles. I was reading the predictions and saw a lot of mention of Simmet and UST O-line and Lally, Alarms etc on Mounts D and thought about something. Simmet lines up on Mounts left. Lally and Alarms are typically on Mounts right (at least at the games I have been to). I know they move them around and am sure they have game planned this but - Simmet on Furda leaves me feeling uneasy. Furda is a heck of a player but he goes at 220 (ish) with Simmet at 350 :o

Just a thought.
I'm not worried about his size, if hes not quick our ends will blow right past him

So did Linfield's DE and UST just ran inside of him all day.  That's why IMO Lally and Vidal are the biggest factor tonight.  If they can jam up the middle like they did against UWW it will be a big win for Mount's D.  I don't think they even need those two to necessarily make a bunch of big plays.  Just don't get blown off the ball so other guys can make plays close to the LOS.  A tall task given UST's line.   

UST is interesting in that they tend to pick a side and hammer it each game when running. But that side varies from game to game. That side has been opposite of Simmet just as much as over him. I would say it ends up leaning 75/25 in how the run plays go from one side vs. the other.


I had been wondering if it was just my perception or if it was reality that we'd been running much more to Hilbert's side in the games that I've seen. He's no small fella either. 

miac952

Quote from: jamtoTommie on December 18, 2015, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: miac952 on December 18, 2015, 10:53:40 AM
Quote from: HScoach on December 18, 2015, 07:28:48 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 17, 2015, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 17, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
If I had to point to one telling stat that will determine this Stagg...

Mount 1 turnover or less = WIN
Mount 2+ turnovers = UGH

And someone who posted that Mount's kicker is good from "40 yards in" must have NOT been watching the kicker I saw the last three weeks.  Solid on xpt, but FG's are iffy beyond 25-30.  I haven't looked it up, but what are his stats for the year?

Caruso is 26-2 at UST when his team scores on a blocked kick, INT, or punt/kick return.

26-2?  That's pretty impressive.

For what it's worth,  Coach Kehres, the younger and less accomplished Kehres,  is 42-2 when they walk onto the field.

Ha! Never really understood some of those record stats. 26-2 isn't terribly different than caruso's overall win % so does it really tell you anything or is it just correlation. I guess statisticians have to go deep these days to keep us engaged.

Great MIAC minds (UST grad?) think alike :-)

Good to know my thoughts are validated now and then. Yes, on the UST grad

Tom Thumb

Quote from: desertraider on December 18, 2015, 09:59:45 AM
Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 18, 2015, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: desertraider on December 18, 2015, 09:50:16 AM
Looking forward to a great game and a Raider victory tonight. It would be great to see this group of Seniors get bookend titles. I was reading the predictions and saw a lot of mention of Simmet and UST O-line and Lally, Alarms etc on Mounts D and thought about something. Simmet lines up on Mounts left. Lally and Alarms are typically on Mounts right (at least at the games I have been to). I know they move them around and am sure they have game planned this but - Simmet on Furda leaves me feeling uneasy. Furda is a heck of a player but he goes at 220 (ish) with Simmet at 350 :o

Just a thought.
I'm not worried about his size, if hes not quick our ends will blow right past him

Watched a bit of his tape and he is nimble on his feet for 350 but sometimes is slow getting out of his stance. UST has played some great teams this year, and some quick ones too, so we shall see. Regardless I will NEVER use "UST hasn't seen a..........". Cheers to all and +K on a Raider victory!

Yeah, it will be interesting to see how Simmet matches up against your defensive ends. I don't know if quickness will be an issue, as he also played basketball his freshman year at UST. He has pretty good footwork for a big guy and he is a lean 350 when you look at him. He also played Hoff pretty well last week. Should be a fun matchup to watch. Good luck on tonights game! I'm excited to see how UST stacks up against a great Mount Union program.


SaintsFAN

Quote from: HScoach on December 18, 2015, 07:28:48 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on December 17, 2015, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 17, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
If I had to point to one telling stat that will determine this Stagg...

Mount 1 turnover or less = WIN
Mount 2+ turnovers = UGH

And someone who posted that Mount's kicker is good from "40 yards in" must have NOT been watching the kicker I saw the last three weeks.  Solid on xpt, but FG's are iffy beyond 25-30.  I haven't looked it up, but what are his stats for the year?

Caruso is 26-2 at UST when his team scores on a blocked kick, INT, or punt/kick return.

26-2?  That's pretty impressive.

For what it's worth,  Coach Kehres, the younger and less accomplished Kehres,  is 42-2 when they walk onto the field.

I hear in 100% of those losses, the other team had at least 1 more point than VK's team. 
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Tom Thumb

Quote from: jamtoTommie on December 18, 2015, 11:02:35 AM
Quote from: miac952 on December 18, 2015, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on December 18, 2015, 10:06:36 AM
Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 18, 2015, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: desertraider on December 18, 2015, 09:50:16 AM
Looking forward to a great game and a Raider victory tonight. It would be great to see this group of Seniors get bookend titles. I was reading the predictions and saw a lot of mention of Simmet and UST O-line and Lally, Alarms etc on Mounts D and thought about something. Simmet lines up on Mounts left. Lally and Alarms are typically on Mounts right (at least at the games I have been to). I know they move them around and am sure they have game planned this but - Simmet on Furda leaves me feeling uneasy. Furda is a heck of a player but he goes at 220 (ish) with Simmet at 350 :o

Just a thought.
I'm not worried about his size, if hes not quick our ends will blow right past him

So did Linfield's DE and UST just ran inside of him all day.  That's why IMO Lally and Vidal are the biggest factor tonight.  If they can jam up the middle like they did against UWW it will be a big win for Mount's D.  I don't think they even need those two to necessarily make a bunch of big plays.  Just don't get blown off the ball so other guys can make plays close to the LOS.  A tall task given UST's line.   

UST is interesting in that they tend to pick a side and hammer it each game when running. But that side varies from game to game. That side has been opposite of Simmet just as much as over him. I would say it ends up leaning 75/25 in how the run plays go from one side vs. the other.


I had been wondering if it was just my perception or if it was reality that we'd been running much more to Hilbert's side in the games that I've seen. He's no small fella either.

UST certainly switches it up from game to game. I remember during the Augsburg game (as one Wabash fan pointed out a few weeks ago) UST ran behind Simmet all day. I think it just depends on what UST sees on film and what presents itself on game day.

ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: Tom Thumb on December 18, 2015, 11:31:48 AM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on December 18, 2015, 11:02:35 AM
Quote from: miac952 on December 18, 2015, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on December 18, 2015, 10:06:36 AM
Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 18, 2015, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: desertraider on December 18, 2015, 09:50:16 AM
Looking forward to a great game and a Raider victory tonight. It would be great to see this group of Seniors get bookend titles. I was reading the predictions and saw a lot of mention of Simmet and UST O-line and Lally, Alarms etc on Mounts D and thought about something. Simmet lines up on Mounts left. Lally and Alarms are typically on Mounts right (at least at the games I have been to). I know they move them around and am sure they have game planned this but - Simmet on Furda leaves me feeling uneasy. Furda is a heck of a player but he goes at 220 (ish) with Simmet at 350 :o

Just a thought.
I'm not worried about his size, if hes not quick our ends will blow right past him

So did Linfield's DE and UST just ran inside of him all day.  That's why IMO Lally and Vidal are the biggest factor tonight.  If they can jam up the middle like they did against UWW it will be a big win for Mount's D.  I don't think they even need those two to necessarily make a bunch of big plays.  Just don't get blown off the ball so other guys can make plays close to the LOS.  A tall task given UST's line.   

UST is interesting in that they tend to pick a side and hammer it each game when running. But that side varies from game to game. That side has been opposite of Simmet just as much as over him. I would say it ends up leaning 75/25 in how the run plays go from one side vs. the other.


I had been wondering if it was just my perception or if it was reality that we'd been running much more to Hilbert's side in the games that I've seen. He's no small fella either.

UST certainly switches it up from game to game. I remember during the Augsburg game (as one Wabash fan pointed out a few weeks ago) UST ran behind Simmet all day. I think it just depends on what UST sees on film and what presents itself on game day.

Bingo.

I played left tackle in a run-heavy offense and two of my best friends were the fullback and the right tackle (who was five inches taller, 50 pounds heavier, and at least 10 Madden rating points better), so I was pretty hyper-aware of how often we were running the ball in each direction.  I felt like we had a pretty right-handed lean (because the RT was a stud and I wasn't) but when I looked back, I don't think the coaches made it a point to go right or left, specifically, it really depended on where the ball was on the field and how the defense was aligning more than a specific desire to go right or left.  It might feel like they go one way because they want to go behind a specific guy, but really it's more like "Well, if we line up with two tight ends into the boundary and motion to the wide side, the strong safety vacates and we have an extra man..." or something like that.
I was small but made up for it by being slow...

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