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Dr. Acula

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 18, 2016, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: Sherburne on November 18, 2016, 10:50:21 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 13, 2016, 07:27:26 PM
With Mount losing last week, the real question is if we'll get to see some of the old school "you haven't seen a ........ like ours" lines.

time marches on, and still no "you haven't seen a ........ like ours" lines from Hobart (or MUC for that matter ;). Hobart did see MUC and Kmic in 2008. Quite a sane buildup.

Sher  :)

Hobart could've said, "Hey Mount Union, you haven't seen the visitor locker room in the 1st Round like ours!"

Ha!  Fantastic!  +k

Desertraider

Quote from: Sherburne on November 18, 2016, 11:35:26 AM
Quote from: desertraider on November 18, 2016, 10:43:40 AM
Despite the 2-deep that was posted and linked I do not see Jordan Hargrove on the travel roster. Mount is taking 3 QBs: Davis, Fulford and Poorman. They are also taking: Ruth, Kennedy, Friss, Hill, Haynes and Herrington.

On the RBs I see: BJ, Evans-Morris, Aaron and Nero (may be others but those were the ones I was looking for).

I wonder if Hargrove is injured or if he just hasn't played in so long that it was seen as a chemistry issue since Hill and Haynes have had more work with Davis.

Desert,
I'm not familiar with a 'travel roster'. That said, after several games had gone by the board, I start a spreadsheet to track 2-deeps (from game previews)> Hargrove does appear in 'my' 2-deep for the Hobart game.

I wonder if there are limits (or not) on changing 2-deeps? Probably not, just the dynamics of evaluating personnel needs as time goes by. Interesting observation.
I'd lke to compare the 'preview' 2-deep vs the travel roster.

Sherb

Well a 'travel roster' is what gets emailed to faculty to excuse students from classes for a road game. So, like I was saying...despite the two deep...yada yada yada. And, no,  I will not post the email.

As far as 'visitor locker room' - good one. Guess Mount could ask "Have you ever seen the locker rooms at the Stagg Bowl"? LOL! ;D (BTW: +k - it was a good one)
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Quote from: desertraider on November 17, 2016, 07:24:27 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 17, 2016, 03:51:07 PM
I think ESPN's Stagg Bowl crews are generally pretty good (yes, even Pam Ward).  It's pretty unfair to judge them too harshly given that they can't possibly be as familiar with the subject material as we are.  If I've got any criticism of the ESPN Stagg Bowl broadscasts, it's only that they have a tendency to grab one or two story lines and beat them into the ground over the course of the game.  They went wild with Jordan Roberts's story (did you know he played against NDSU?!?!?) last year and it got to be a bit much.  But generally they're fine.

Wally - you are spot on about 99% of the time (nobody is perfect...well except perhaps the "Guru" ;D) but we are going to have to agree to disagree on Pam. She re-introduced me to the mute button and was the reason for listening to the radio broadcast while watching the game (even with the 3-5 second delay - it was better).

The story line I get tired of hearing about during the Stagg Bowl is (drumroll) - "in Division III there are no scholarships like in Divisions I and II....yada yada yada". Yes - it is true, but for god's sake when you say it every 30 seconds. ('Nemeth breaks a tackle and rambles for 26 yards - did you know in Division III they don't have scholarships like in Divisions I and II?') Oy. BTW: did you know Jordan Roberts wants to be a priest? Hmmm - I heard that somewhere ???

BTW/BTW: Not a knock on Jordan Roberts! Kids awesome. However, a knock on ESPN and their unwillingness to simply call the game like they would call an Alabama or OSU game. It feels like they are sort of 'patting DIII on the head' during the game (way to go young fellas - you're special!).

Yes!! Thought that for years, DIII is treated like the "look how cute, they play for love of the game, even though they're not talented"

While that is true for a lot of programs, when you get to the top rungs of DIII, the players a lot of times, have the talent of DI players (maybe not your Alabama talent) but may be just a little smaller than those at the top level.
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Desertraider

Just double checked the email and Hargrove and Choate are not on it. I know some have wondered if Choate would get some playoff runs due to his JV stats and youth - but it does not appear that way.
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Raiderplaybyplay

Quote from: JCUStreaks70 on November 18, 2016, 12:52:59 PM
Quote from: desertraider on November 17, 2016, 07:24:27 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 17, 2016, 03:51:07 PM
I think ESPN's Stagg Bowl crews are generally pretty good (yes, even Pam Ward).  It's pretty unfair to judge them too harshly given that they can't possibly be as familiar with the subject material as we are.  If I've got any criticism of the ESPN Stagg Bowl broadscasts, it's only that they have a tendency to grab one or two story lines and beat them into the ground over the course of the game.  They went wild with Jordan Roberts's story (did you know he played against NDSU?!?!?) last year and it got to be a bit much.  But generally they're fine.

Wally - you are spot on about 99% of the time (nobody is perfect...well except perhaps the "Guru" ;D) but we are going to have to agree to disagree on Pam. She re-introduced me to the mute button and was the reason for listening to the radio broadcast while watching the game (even with the 3-5 second delay - it was better).

The story line I get tired of hearing about during the Stagg Bowl is (drumroll) - "in Division III there are no scholarships like in Divisions I and II....yada yada yada". Yes - it is true, but for god's sake when you say it every 30 seconds. ('Nemeth breaks a tackle and rambles for 26 yards - did you know in Division III they don't have scholarships like in Divisions I and II?') Oy. BTW: did you know Jordan Roberts wants to be a priest? Hmmm - I heard that somewhere ???

BTW/BTW: Not a knock on Jordan Roberts! Kids awesome. However, a knock on ESPN and their unwillingness to simply call the game like they would call an Alabama or OSU game. It feels like they are sort of 'patting DIII on the head' during the game (way to go young fellas - you're special!).

Yes!! Thought that for years, DIII is treated like the "look how cute, they play for love of the game, even though they're not talented"

While that is true for a lot of programs, when you get to the top rungs of DIII, the players a lot of times, have the talent of DI players (maybe not your Alabama talent) but may be just a little smaller than those at the top level.

A good example is When Wesley (when they had Joe Callahan) beat an FCS school a few years ago. The size difference was very evident, but size does not equal talent.

Also just realizing that recruiting is such an imprecise science at all levels, there are plenty of d3 guys who could  be on scholarship at a bigger program, and plenty of mediocre d1 scholarship guys who probably would not be standouts in d3 . It's just so hard to predict how a high school kid will adapt to college football.

Sherburne

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 18, 2016, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: Sherburne on November 18, 2016, 10:50:21 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 13, 2016, 07:27:26 PM
With Mount losing last week, the real question is if we'll get to see some of the old school "you haven't seen a ........ like ours" lines.

time marches on, and still no "you haven't seen a ........ like ours" lines from Hobart (or MUC for that matter ;). Hobart did see MUC and Kmic in 2008. Quite a sane buildup.

Sher  :)
Hobart could've said, "Hey Mount Union, you haven't seen the visitor locker room in the 1st Round like ours!"

back, back, way back in the day, I toured Raider facilities with a group. Talk of locker rooms isn't germain to discussing the Raider:Hobart game. :-X

Sher

SaintsFAN

Um, I think you missed the point here, Scooter.
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Desertraider

And now for some "Onion" type banter for the game tomorrow (please don't take these as insults people!):

Cheers from the Raider Cheerleaders!
We've got spirit yes we do - we've got 91 playoff wins - how bout you?

or

We've got spirit yes we do - we've got 12 National Championships - how bout you?

or

We've got spirit yes we do - we've got 25 consecutive playoff bids  - how bout you?

kidding aside - should be a great game (hopefully not a close one and the Raiders win - I am a bit biased) and no matter what no injuries and safe travels.
RIP MUC57 - Go Everybody!
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Immaculate Prevention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZLq_acsVN0

Raiderplaybyplay

Quote from: desertraider on November 18, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
And now for some "Onion" type banter for the game tomorrow (please don't take these as insults people!):

Cheers from the Raider Cheerleaders!
We've got spirit yes we do - we've got 91 playoff wins - how bout you?

or

We've got spirit yes we do - we've got 12 National Championships - how bout you?

or

We've got spirit yes we do - we've got 25 consecutive playoff bids  - how bout you?

kidding aside - should be a great game (hopefully not a close one and the Raiders win - I am a bit biased) and no matter what no injuries and safe travels.

I'd like to imagine the Hobart cheerleading squad retort as simply: "We've got a home playoff game this year, how about you?"

But in all seriousness, let's go Raiders! Can't wait to see how this team responds after last week.

skunks_sidekick

Odd/weird/fun to be sitting at home today and watching Mount play in the play-offs.  Get 'er done men!

Craft_Beermeister


Toph

Live stats for at Hobart seem to be stuck on last week's game, maybe they want to keep the winning score up there.

JCU currently moving on their first drive as well.

Toph

6-0 JCU 9:53.  Blocked XP.  At some point Arth and co. might want to just considering going for two every time.

hazzben

This Hobart announcer is atrocious!

QuoteHe's short of the marker on 3rd down.
Reality: As his monotone color guy pointed out, the linesman was marking it a full yd past the 1st down marker.

QuoteHe gest stuffed on first down, maybe got a couple yards.
Reality: Mount RB gained 4 yds to set up 2nd and 6

QuoteI don't think any Hobart players made contact in the neutral zone
Reality: The flag was for a false start by the Mount WR, who obviously jumped.

QuoteHobart almost had them stopped on the 3rd down screen.
Reality: They gave up a 3rd and 15 in an obvious screen situation and then gave up a 50 yd TD. Almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades.

QuoteHobart corner comes up and puts a lick on him.
Reality: Mount RB put a nasty stiff arm on the guy in the flat, knocked him down and fell forward for another 3 yds.

The guy is articulate and has a good rhythm, but he's a brutal homer and seems to be watching a different game.

Craft_Beermeister

Quote from: hazzben on November 19, 2016, 12:29:18 PM
This Hobart announcer is atrocious!

QuoteHe's short of the marker on 3rd down.
Reality: As his monotone color guy pointed out, the linesman was marking it a full yd past the 1st down marker.

QuoteHe gest stuffed on first down, maybe got a couple yards.
Reality: Mount RB gained 4 yds to set up 2nd and 6

QuoteI don't think any Hobart players made contact in the neutral zone
Reality: The flag was for a false start by the Mount WR, who obviously jumped.

QuoteHobart almost had them stopped on the 3rd down screen.
Reality: They gave up a 3rd and 15 in an obvious screen situation and then gave up a 50 yd TD. Almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades.

QuoteHobart corner comes up and puts a lick on him.
Reality: Mount RB put a nasty stiff arm on the guy in the flat, knocked him down and fell forward for another 3 yds.

The guy is articulate and has a good rhythm, but he's a brutal homer and seems to be watching a different game.

Yes. I find the broadcast very entertaining