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[WRMUalum13]

Burke's first year as a starter was 2012. He is listed with 38TDs in the cumulative statistics. This includes playoffs.

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Thanks! So wow, that puts fulfords # in perspective.

[Desertraider]

Sure. But it also sets a bar - Mount won it all when Burke was a Sophomore. Granted at Mount - the bar is that high every year. Point being that throwing for 50TDs is great - throwing for 38TDs BUT getting a ring, well priceless. Ask Tommy Brady.

[WRMUalum13]

Sure. But it also sets a bar - Mount won it all when Burke was a Sophomore. Granted at Mount - the bar is that high every year. Point being that throwing for 50TDs is great - throwing for 38TDs BUT getting a ring, well priceless. Ask Tommy Brady.

Oh absolutely! I couldn't care less about how many TD passes Fulford throws if he gets the job done. It's just statistically impressive especially when put into comparison with a Mount great like Burke. It's kind of similar to the fact that the 2014 UMU offense scored more points in a season than any other college team ever. It's a neat footnote, but it doesn't really matter since they didn't win a championship

[raiderpa]

Fulford's stats are indeed impressive, however, Mount has not faced the pass rush nor defensive backs that they will most likely see as the playoffs progress.  His athletic ability is, iMO, the most important asset that he has as the playoffs move forward. This escapability will help negate some pressure and allow time for receivers to break open against better speed than they have seen thus far.  SPEED is what separates Mount from many teams, especially in the OAC.
The depth of the receiving corp is the gem of the offense. I think Hill is possibly the next NFL possibility and Ruth and Friss are both All-American calibre in speed and hands.  The TE is the weakest position of the receiving corp, hands of stone so far.  Moxie is coming on, however.

[Dr. Acula]

Fulford's stats are indeed impressive, however, Mount has not faced the pass rush nor defensive backs that they will most likely see as the playoffs progress.  His athletic ability is, iMO, the most important asset that he has as the playoffs move forward. This escapability will help negate some pressure and allow time for receivers to break open against better speed than they have seen thus far.  SPEED is what separates Mount from many teams, especially in the OAC.
The depth of the receiving corp is the gem of the offense. I think Hill is possibly the next NFL possibility and Ruth and Friss are both All-American calibre in speed and hands.  The TE is the weakest position of the receiving corp, hands of stone so far.  Moxie is coming on, however.

I wonder how much true TE we see once it gets to the meat of the playoffs.  The 3 WR aren't coming off the field.  Based on the opponent's strengths and game situation I would think we may see more 4 WR sets with Herrington or more 2 back sets with both JEM and Petro on the field.  Both of those would land the TE on the sideline.  If the opponent is getting pressure I also wouldn't be surprised to see Fornaro in as the 2nd back/TE just to block. 

[Dr. Acula]

Sure. But it also sets a bar - Mount won it all when Burke was a Sophomore. Granted at Mount - the bar is that high every year. Point being that throwing for 50TDs is great - throwing for 38TDs BUT getting a ring, well priceless. Ask Tommy Brady.

To be fair to Fulford in 2012 when Burke won it the defense was the strength of the team.  The 2017 defense is not the 2012 defense.  They've played well this year so far, but Driskill and Dieuseul aren't walking through that door.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Fulford's stats are indeed impressive, however, Mount has not faced the pass rush nor defensive backs that they will most likely see as the playoffs progress.  His athletic ability is, iMO, the most important asset that he has as the playoffs move forward. This escapability will help negate some pressure and allow time for receivers to break open against better speed than they have seen thus far.  SPEED is what separates Mount from many teams, especially in the OAC.
The depth of the receiving corp is the gem of the offense. I think Hill is possibly the next NFL possibility and Ruth and Friss are both All-American calibre in speed and hands.  The TE is the weakest position of the receiving corp, hands of stone so far.  Moxie is coming on, however.

I wonder how much true TE we see once it gets to the meat of the playoffs.  The 3 WR aren't coming off the field.  Based on the opponent's strengths and game situation I would think we may see more 4 WR sets with Herrington or more 2 back sets with both JEM and Petro on the field.  Both of those would land the TE on the sideline.  If the opponent is getting pressure I also wouldn't be surprised to see Fornaro in as the 2nd back/TE just to block.

Three WR set with a "Sniffer" at the FB/H Position

[HScoach]

Sure. But it also sets a bar - Mount won it all when Burke was a Sophomore. Granted at Mount - the bar is that high every year. Point being that throwing for 50TDs is great - throwing for 38TDs BUT getting a ring, well priceless. Ask Tommy Brady.

To be fair to Fulford in 2012 when Burke won it the defense was the strength of the team.  The 2017 defense is not the 2012 defense.  They've played well this year so far, but Driskill and Dieuseul aren't walking through that door.

Exactly.  This defense isn't 2012 reincarnate.  Hopefully the playoffs don't expose that 2013 has returned either!

[HScoach]

Mom, check your messages.

[merlecanlas]

If Raider68 is calling for a 28 point MUC win, I think there will be some far bigger spreads that will be predicted


to our JCU poster, is the tailgating situation at JCU still really bad?

It's been better in recent years, and I think that this should probably have a decent crowd this year. I have a feeling that even though it's kind of a mismatch this year, there will still be quite a few alums who will come out, given the result of the game last year. (I will personally be there! look for the JCU flag with the black army flag underneath it lol!)
I think the Mount Union tailgate section is in the Dolan parking lot (across from the library, between the admin building on the Dolan Science Center). I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of Mount fans this year too, so if your going, I would suggest getting there early!

Thanks man, I'll keep an eye out.  You won't be able to miss the merlecanlas tailgate.  See ya bright and early Saturday morning.  I can't believe JCU isn't selling any tickets before noon on Saturday

[merlecanlas]

Sure. But it also sets a bar - Mount won it all when Burke was a Sophomore. Granted at Mount - the bar is that high every year. Point being that throwing for 50TDs is great - throwing for 38TDs BUT getting a ring, well priceless. Ask Tommy Brady.

To be fair to Fulford in 2012 when Burke won it the defense was the strength of the team.  The 2017 defense is not the 2012 defense.  They've played well this year so far, but Driskill and Dieuseul aren't walking through that door.

Exactly.  This defense isn't 2012 reincarnate.  Hopefully the playoffs don't expose that 2013 has returned either!

2013 UWW isn't walking through that door either.  the 2017 defense is light years ahead of the young 2013 Mount defense, imo. 

2012 D > 2017 D
2017 O > 2012 O

so where does that leave the 2017 team?

[HScoach]

I agree with your O vs D comparison.  We'll find out over the next 6 weeks.  Should be an interesting end to the season.

Though I will point out that it was much more than just UWW that exposed the '13 defense.  I would say the following made that point all season:
Franklin 27
Heidelberg 34
John Carroll 34
W&J 20
Wittenberg 21
Wesley 59
North Central 40

Those do NOT reflect your typical Mount defense. 

[merlecanlas]

I agree with your O vs D comparison.  We'll find out over the next 6 weeks.  Should be an interesting end to the season.

Though I will point out that it was much more than just UWW that exposed the '13 defense.  I would say the following made that point all season:
Franklin 27
Heidelberg 34
John Carroll 34
W&J 20
Wittenberg 21
Wesley 59
North Central 40

Those do NOT reflect your typical Mount defense.

no doubt, the fact that Mount made it to Stagg was a testament to the greatness of Kevin Burke. 

[edward de vere]

Fulford's stats are indeed impressive, however, Mount has not faced the pass rush nor defensive backs that they will most likely see as the playoffs progress.  His athletic ability is, iMO, the most important asset that he has as the playoffs move forward. This escapability will help negate some pressure and allow time for receivers to break open against better speed than they have seen thus far.  SPEED is what separates Mount from many teams, especially in the OAC.
The depth of the receiving corp is the gem of the offense. I think Hill is possibly the next NFL possibility and Ruth and Friss are both All-American calibre in speed and hands.  The TE is the weakest position of the receiving corp, hands of stone so far.  Moxie is coming on, however.

I wonder how much true TE we see once it gets to the meat of the playoffs.  The 3 WR aren't coming off the field.  Based on the opponent's strengths and game situation I would think we may see more 4 WR sets with Herrington or more 2 back sets with both JEM and Petro on the field.  Both of those would land the TE on the sideline.  If the opponent is getting pressure I also wouldn't be surprised to see Fornaro in as the 2nd back/TE just to block.

Three WR set with a "Sniffer" at the FB/H Position

Do I want to know what a "Sniffer" is?

[WRMUalum13]

I agree with your O vs D comparison.  We'll find out over the next 6 weeks.  Should be an interesting end to the season.

Though I will point out that it was much more than just UWW that exposed the '13 defense.  I would say the following made that point all season:
Franklin 27
Heidelberg 34
John Carroll 34
W&J 20
Wittenberg 21
Wesley 59
North Central 40

Those do NOT reflect your typical Mount defense.

no doubt, the fact that Mount made it to Stagg was a testament to the greatness of Kevin Burke.

Oh god the 2013 defense was a mess, I remember being in disbelief at the Wesley game. To be fair joe Callahan was a great qb, but still. I think I remember seeing a stat that the last team to put up 59 against Mount was Ohio State before that game