FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[joelmama]

gizzmo13

Hadn't really thought too much about a score for tomorrow. 48 - 13 seems reasonable. I could live with that. I'm sure that made your day. Anywhere around that score is OK!

desertraider

You sure do have a way of making your point on the CASE naming issue. How about we refer to it thusly: "The former Case School of Applied Science" or, to be a little more recent, "The former Case Institute of Technology". How about just that school next to The Cleveland Clinic?
I will simply refer to them as "the team we are playing tomorrow".
Ahhh, much ado about nothing!

Or the school between UH and the Clinic.

[Desertraider]

Well there is "smart" and "football smart". I considered the former a given and felt the need to clarify the latter.

[Desertraider]

gizzmo13

Hadn't really thought too much about a score for tomorrow. 48 - 13 seems reasonable. I could live with that. I'm sure that made your day. Anywhere around that score is OK!

desertraider

You sure do have a way of making your point on the CASE naming issue. How about we refer to it thusly: "The former Case School of Applied Science" or, to be a little more recent, "The former Case Institute of Technology". How about just that school next to The Cleveland Clinic?
I will simply refer to them as "the team we are playing tomorrow".
Ahhh, much ado about nothing!

My brother chose Air Force Academy over Case back in the day. When asked why he said "seriously, Colorado Springs and fly airplanes or go to a school in the crappy part of Cleveland"? I guess "School in the Crappy Part of Cleveland" wasn't the look Case was going for...so Mount is not playing SCPC. I will opt for opponent in Round 2. And I will caution - Pitt had no chance today against Miami...none. But no one told Pitt.

Last time I was there it looked like nice neighborhoods and the botanical gardens. Maybe it's developed a bit since your brother was looking at schools.

I assume from the "13" you are a 2013 Grad? I will grant Case has nice surroundings now. From 19?? to 1980's...not so much.

[E.115]

gizzmo13

Hadn't really thought too much about a score for tomorrow. 48 - 13 seems reasonable. I could live with that. I'm sure that made your day. Anywhere around that score is OK!

desertraider

You sure do have a way of making your point on the CASE naming issue. How about we refer to it thusly: "The former Case School of Applied Science" or, to be a little more recent, "The former Case Institute of Technology". How about just that school next to The Cleveland Clinic?
I will simply refer to them as "the team we are playing tomorrow".
Ahhh, much ado about nothing!

My brother chose Air Force Academy over Case back in the day. When asked why he said "seriously, Colorado Springs and fly airplanes or go to a school in the crappy part of Cleveland"? I guess "School in the Crappy Part of Cleveland" wasn't the look Case was going for...so Mount is not playing SCPC. I will opt for opponent in Round 2. And I will caution - Pitt had no chance today against Miami...none. But no one told Pitt.

Last time I was there it looked like nice neighborhoods and the botanical gardens. Maybe it's developed a bit since your brother was looking at schools.

I assume from the "13" you are a 2013 Grad? I will grant Case has nice surroundings now. From 19?? to 1980's...not so much.

To echo WRMUalum13, the area is a complete Cleveland neighborhood success story.  It's beautiful.

And not to divert the conversation of the politically correct means of discussing CWRU... ... But regarding CWRU campus (University Circle):

The area bore the scars right on its doorstep of the Hough Riots (race riots) of the late 1960s.  It has taken decades to recover, but man, Cleveland has cleaned it up and it is NICE and walkable.  In fact, all the new housing being built in University Circle is starting in the $350K - $450K range and luxury apartments are going up that must be to be targeting the doctor demographic of UH and the Cleveland Clinic judging by the prices (http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/10/one_university_circle_apartmen.html).  Campus is surrounded by anchor institutions...Cleveland Museum of Art, Cleveland Natural History Museum, Cleveland Orchestra, Cleveland Botanical Gardens, Museum of Contemporary Art, etc...but it also has the old ethnic area of Little Italy on its other border: https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,31404.0.html

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Coach Lispold and UB just beat Ohio U for their 3rd straight victory to become bowl eligible for only the third time in school history.

[Desertraider]

Coach Lispold and UB just beat Ohio U for their 3rd straight victory to become bowl eligible for only the third time in school history.

I had heard somewhere that LL could coach a bit.

[WRMUalum13]

gizzmo13

Hadn't really thought too much about a score for tomorrow. 48 - 13 seems reasonable. I could live with that. I'm sure that made your day. Anywhere around that score is OK!

desertraider

You sure do have a way of making your point on the CASE naming issue. How about we refer to it thusly: "The former Case School of Applied Science" or, to be a little more recent, "The former Case Institute of Technology". How about just that school next to The Cleveland Clinic?
I will simply refer to them as "the team we are playing tomorrow".
Ahhh, much ado about nothing!

My brother chose Air Force Academy over Case back in the day. When asked why he said "seriously, Colorado Springs and fly airplanes or go to a school in the crappy part of Cleveland"? I guess "School in the Crappy Part of Cleveland" wasn't the look Case was going for...so Mount is not playing SCPC. I will opt for opponent in Round 2. And I will caution - Pitt had no chance today against Miami...none. But no one told Pitt.

Last time I was there it looked like nice neighborhoods and the botanical gardens. Maybe it's developed a bit since your brother was looking at schools.

I assume from the "13" you are a 2013 Grad? I will grant Case has nice surroundings now. From 19?? to 1980's...not so much.

Yep 2013, I was on Case's campus for work this summer. Like most places I'm sure I'd have a different opinion if I'd visited 30 years ago!

[E.115]

For whatever reason, this game does have a novelty feeling to it:

Mount Union's Friss finally gets 'dream game'

http://www.the-review.com/sports/20171124/mount-unions-friss-finally-gets-dream-game

[raiderguy]

Now the real reason I came in to post. CASE looks good. I watched the Westminster game, 1st half, and have a better idea about  them.

QB: Smart. Good arm long, accurate with time. Great pocket awareness - scrambles out of pressure before he is swarmed. Gets rid of ball to avoid sacks (one thing Fulford needs work on). However, pressure up the middle and he seems to like moving backwards (did it twice - though got rid of ball both times). When flushed - he makes the decision to run and does it. No second thoughts. Good runner in the Greg Micheli style.

WR: A lot of 4 WR sets, similar to Mount with use of slot. WR are quick - not sure on speed. Not very big but get open. Good hands, made some great catches deep (2 reminded me of Tim Kennedy).

RB: Burke. This kid is good. Reminds me of Nemeth - hits hole hard, moves forward, falls forward. No wasted movements, no dancing. Has power between tackles and is quick to corner. Good speed and breaks tackles.

Oline: Looks solid. I don't know much about Westminster but the QB had time to let plays develop. Set a nice pocket and open some good holes for run game.

As an offense they are quick to the line. Snap, play, snap, play. Very reminiscent of Mount at tempo. Mount had trouble when jcu switched to this and got flagged for 12 men (twice?). Could be an issue with switching personnel.

On D
Dline: gets good pressure with 3 or 4. Good at stuffing the run in the middle.
LB: Good speed and flow to ball. Really good tacklers in open field.
DBs: This seems to be a weak spot (Uh - Oh). The corners don't seem that quick and were beat quite a bit - but the pressure got there before the pass. Westminster had success with the 10-15 patterns and had open WR in the seams during most of what I watched.

CASE likes to use LBs and a corner on blitz packages - this left wide open lanes on sidelines (they got caught twice and gave up big yards). When the LB(s) blitz - they have little to cover the slot and middle routes.

Seriously - watching this game was like watching Mount...especially on Offense. Interesting. Any thoughts from CASE, CWRU, Case Western Reserve, or Spartan fans is welcomed.

BTW: I got a letter from CWRU inviting me to a conference last year. The letterhead had a big 14pt "CASE" and underneath in like 8 pt was Western Reserve University

Like I mentioned in an earlier post...could it be a coincidence that Kevin Burke is the running backs coach for CASE? Oh wait, according to Leroy Jethro Gibbs there is no such thing as coincidence. I'm not sure what rule that is in his long list of rules but it sure does apply in this case Oh this Case I 'm sorry I didn't mean to say that. He just might have shared a few things about how Mount does things so that could explain why Case might look so much like Mount, and it is kind o ironic that Kevin is coaching a running back named Burke?

[ADL70]

Now the real reason I came in to post. CASE looks good. I watched the Westminster game, 1st half, and have a better idea about  them.

QB: Smart. Good arm long, accurate with time. Great pocket awareness - scrambles out of pressure before he is swarmed. Gets rid of ball to avoid sacks (one thing Fulford needs work on). However, pressure up the middle and he seems to like moving backwards (did it twice - though got rid of ball both times). When flushed - he makes the decision to run and does it. No second thoughts. Good runner in the Greg Micheli style.

WR: A lot of 4 WR sets, similar to Mount with use of slot. WR are quick - not sure on speed. Not very big but get open. Good hands, made some great catches deep (2 reminded me of Tim Kennedy).

RB: Burke. This kid is good. Reminds me of Nemeth - hits hole hard, moves forward, falls forward. No wasted movements, no dancing. Has power between tackles and is quick to corner. Good speed and breaks tackles.

Oline: Looks solid. I don't know much about Westminster but the QB had time to let plays develop. Set a nice pocket and open some good holes for run game.

As an offense they are quick to the line. Snap, play, snap, play. Very reminiscent of Mount at tempo. Mount had trouble when jcu switched to this and got flagged for 12 men (twice?). Could be an issue with switching personnel.

On D
Dline: gets good pressure with 3 or 4. Good at stuffing the run in the middle.
LB: Good speed and flow to ball. Really good tacklers in open field.
DBs: This seems to be a weak spot (Uh - Oh). The corners don't seem that quick and were beat quite a bit - but the pressure got there before the pass. Westminster had success with the 10-15 patterns and had open WR in the seams during most of what I watched.

CASE likes to use LBs and a corner on blitz packages - this left wide open lanes on sidelines (they got caught twice and gave up big yards). When the LB(s) blitz - they have little to cover the slot and middle routes.

Seriously - watching this game was like watching Mount...especially on Offense. Interesting. Any thoughts from CASE, CWRU, Case Western Reserve, or Spartan fans is welcomed.

BTW: I got a letter from CWRU inviting me to a conference last year. The letterhead had a big 14pt "CASE" and underneath in like 8 pt was Western Reserve University

Like I mentioned in an earlier post...could it be a coincidence that Kevin Burke is the running backs coach for CASE? Oh wait, according to Leroy Jethro Gibbs there is no such thing as coincidence. I'm not sure what rule that is in his long list of rules but it sure does apply in this case Oh this Case I 'm sorry I didn't mean to say that. He just might have shared a few things about how Mount does things so that could explain why Case might look so much like Mount, and it is kind o ironic that Kevin is coaching a running back named Burke?

The 'Burke' thing isn't ironic (a much misused word) it's a coincidence.  Ironic would be CWRU beating Mt Union using a similar offense which Debs has given credit to his speaking with LK about.  One thing that I don't think Mount has faced this year is a 6'6 340# NT.  Cuda didn't pass well vs CMU or IllWes, although weather was a big factor in the latter.  He and Burke have to bring their A game for the Spartans to make it a game.  Oh, and a bit of the good fortune that has shone on CWRU in the last two games.

[mr_mom]

To drive home that point, examples of irony and coincidence from that master of language, George Carlin : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R36nn5hFsg8

[ADL70]

"The only acceptable usages of the University's name are 'Case Western Reserve University,' 'Case Western Reserve' and 'CWRU.'  Please refrain from using any other form of the name, including 'Case' or 'Case Western,' on scoreboards, websites, broadcasts, articles, etc."

Say what you want BUT - IT'S STUPID! Why, some may ask? Well because I just watched the 1st half of the Case v. Westminster game and saw several coaches wearing jackets on the sideline with "CASE" on them. Same for students wearing sweatshirts and jackets and hats "CASE". Yep saw some with CWRU....but if you sell merchandise that says CASE you kinda have to accept people referring to you as CASE. In the CASE of IUPUI...doubt they sold merchandise that said  "UuuEEE PuuEE" and then told people not to say it. So if CASE wants peopel to stop using CASE...then stop selling CASE gear. There. I have made my CASE!

The university includes the Case School of Engineering, so it is appropriate for students and alumni of that institution to use and wear "Case" gear.  But CWRU denotes all of the constituent colleges and schools of the university and its athletic teams. Apples and oranges. To further confuse, since I attended during the transition, my diploma is from Adelbert College of Case Western Reserve University - hence ADL.

[Desertraider]

Anyone know if the stream today is being done by the "pro" crew or the students? When the students call the game they use this fade-in fade-out echo thing for replay - and they use it all the time. Very annoying - especially when they use it and then don't show the replay but continue to call the live action, even though you can't see it since it is stuck on a frozen replay screen.

Should be a good game today. Anyone know if Burke (not KB) is playing? I know he was injured but wanted to see him play.

[Kehresma]

Note to Public Address booth: Please consider warning, "spoiler alert" before giving OSU/BUMS score updates. We have the DVR set at home,  Wanted to support the home team in this second, holiday weekend of play-offs when attendance is always abysmal.  Besides, I'm proud (and a little scared) of CWRU, my old neighborhood team. Lived and worked in aforementioned Hough in 70's-80's. One of the most nurturing, hospitable communities of my life. That said, I knew when and when not to step out onto 107th and Euclid.  (Quote pane getting a little unwieldy, and not sure I remember how to do it, with fewer tutorials these days, so I'll trust some readers will know context.)

Go Raiders (with great respect for the CWRUs)!

[Craft_Beermeister]

We got into Alliance early so we stopped at the Hood for a few. Drinking Great Lakes Christmas Ale because they don't have 12 Dogs

I guess we won't make it to the brunch