FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[bluestreak66]

Now that the season is over, I was thinking it might be kind of fun to identify the best team in the history of each OAC school! I'll let you Mount folk figure that out lol, but I'll start with JCU. I'd say it would have to be the 2016 team. They reached the semis in 2002, but that season, they were rolled by Mount twice. in 16, they came within a touchdown of heading for Salem. There were also some good teams in the 50s, but they didn't achieve the same post season success as the 2016 team.
For BW, it would have to be 1978, aka, the only year BW football as done anything haha!
Any others?

[merlecanlas]

I've been seeing a lot of tweets about "offers" from Mount and kids committing to Mount.  I'm wondering how many D3 programs have a Recruiting Coach/Coordinator without any other coaching duties like Mount?

I saw a few of these as well.  I assumed it meant they'd applied and Mount told them "hey, you've been accepted and we want you to come play for us."  I couldn't think of what else an "offer" could mean in the D3 landscape.

In other twiiter related news I saw that Justin Hill was tweeting with CS3 about working out with him and Jasper Collins in the off season.  Not a bad duo for Hill to work out with.  I'm sure Cecil is busting his butt trying to get back to 100%.

not a bad thing to bring a top recruit to

[merlecanlas]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2753014-mack-brown-charles-woodson-headline-2018-college-football-hall-of-fame-class

Bill Borchert snubbed again

[raiderpa]

Career stats:  Kerry Collins (2018 College Football Hall of Fame selection)

370 for 657 passing 56%
5304 yards
39 TDs  21 Ints

Blll Borchert (snubee)

946 for 1447 passing 65%
14,482 yards
189 TDs 27 Ints

So, why is Borchert not in Hall??  DIII bias.

[Desertraider]

There is no DIII bias. Saban is the greatest coach of all time and Alabama is the greatest college football dynasty: "But of course they didn't. This is the greatest dynasty in the history of this sport, with five national titles in a nine-year span as proof, led by the greatest college coach to ever stalk the sidelines — that would be Saban." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2018/01/09/dynasty-rolls-alabama-beats-georgia-college-football-playoff/1015878001/)

Hang on a second....I need to vomit.....ok. Yeah - whatever. Hey Nick - call me when you get to 7, wait 8, no 9, ho right 13!!. Well you get the point.

[Desertraider]

On the best teams from each OAC school - are we including Wilmington? 

Bluestreak66 - I see the logic on selecting the 2016 team but the 2002 team would have rolled them. Yes, 2002 jcu got rolled by Mount but that was a GREAT Mount team: Adamson, Pugh, Knapp, Sirianni, Kern, Caponi, Clum, Campbell, Spisak, Dillard. 2016 Mount was a bit down and jcu got lucky (sorry but they still needed a last second prayer). Point is jcu 2002 had Arth at QB and as much as it pains me to say it - Arth was an absolutely incredible QB that would have picked apart the 2016 version.

[Dr. Acula]

On the best teams from each OAC school - are we including Wilmington? 

Bluestreak66 - I see the logic on selecting the 2016 team but the 2002 team would have rolled them. Yes, 2002 jcu got rolled by Mount but that was a GREAT Mount team: Adamson, Pugh, Knapp, Sirianni, Kern, Caponi, Clum, Campbell, Spisak, Dillard. 2016 Mount was a bit down and jcu got lucky (sorry but they still needed a last second prayer). Point is jcu 2002 had Arth at QB and as much as it pains me to say it - Arth was an absolutely incredible QB that would have picked apart the 2016 version.

That's actually easy.  It has to be the Adam Ryan squad when they first joined the OAC.  Back when they were actually...what's the word?  Good??   

[Desertraider]

Still debating what Wilmington team is the best is like debating which is better: a poop flavored lolly pop or poop flavored ice cream. Oh and the same for Marietta. Although Etta has had a few really good players over the years - if only more than 1 played for them at the same time.

[bluenote]

... wait I think MUC57 was an All American... Now I'm embarrassed!

[MUC57]

Bluenote

You are something else! Not sure what, but something. I, contrary to what you may have heard, did not play varsity football. I was too small, too chicken and not good. I did however; captain the debate team. No contact but I did get a nasty paper cut from one of my notes. And I did stumble on the lectern once. And the time I forgot which side of the argument I was on. But all in all pretty uneventful.
But All-American? Nah! So there, you, you......!

[SaintsFAN]

On the best teams from each OAC school - are we including Wilmington? 

Bluestreak66 - I see the logic on selecting the 2016 team but the 2002 team would have rolled them. Yes, 2002 jcu got rolled by Mount but that was a GREAT Mount team: Adamson, Pugh, Knapp, Sirianni, Kern, Caponi, Clum, Campbell, Spisak, Dillard. 2016 Mount was a bit down and jcu got lucky (sorry but they still needed a last second prayer). Point is jcu 2002 had Arth at QB and as much as it pains me to say it - Arth was an absolutely incredible QB that would have picked apart the 2016 version.

That's actually easy.  It has to be the Adam Ryan squad when they first joined the OAC.  Back when they were actually...what's the word?  Good??   

Literally one year in 2000.  Not only did they have Adam Ryan, defensively they had a DB named Antonio Broadnax (from Cincy) who we had tried to convince attending TMC.  He was a player.  Mostly, they were scrappy kids from Cincy and they had enough success in the HCAC to not feel like doormats. 

I think BMoore is going to be successful there.... but its going to come in stages. 

[JCUStreaks70]

On the best teams from each OAC school - are we including Wilmington? 

Bluestreak66 - I see the logic on selecting the 2016 team but the 2002 team would have rolled them. Yes, 2002 jcu got rolled by Mount but that was a GREAT Mount team: Adamson, Pugh, Knapp, Sirianni, Kern, Caponi, Clum, Campbell, Spisak, Dillard. 2016 Mount was a bit down and jcu got lucky (sorry but they still needed a last second prayer). Point is jcu 2002 had Arth at QB and as much as it pains me to say it - Arth was an absolutely incredible QB that would have picked apart the 2016 version.

I actually would say one team over a 2 year span; the 1962 & 1963 Team, which had back to back undefeated seasons..

[bluestreak66]

On the best teams from each OAC school - are we including Wilmington? 

Bluestreak66 - I see the logic on selecting the 2016 team but the 2002 team would have rolled them. Yes, 2002 jcu got rolled by Mount but that was a GREAT Mount team: Adamson, Pugh, Knapp, Sirianni, Kern, Caponi, Clum, Campbell, Spisak, Dillard. 2016 Mount was a bit down and jcu got lucky (sorry but they still needed a last second prayer). Point is jcu 2002 had Arth at QB and as much as it pains me to say it - Arth was an absolutely incredible QB that would have picked apart the 2016 version.

That's actually easy.  It has to be the Adam Ryan squad when they first joined the OAC.  Back when they were actually...what's the word?  Good??   

Literally one year in 2000.  Not only did they have Adam Ryan, defensively they had a DB named Antonio Broadnax (from Cincy) who we had tried to convince attending TMC.  He was a player.  Mostly, they were scrappy kids from Cincy and they had enough success in the HCAC to not feel like doormats. 

I think BMoore is going to be successful there.... but its going to come in stages.

Good point on 02, but the Whitewater game (in addition to Mount) were bigger than any 2 wins in 02!
For Otterbein, do we think it would be 08? Was that their only playoff appearance? Not too much to choose from based on recent results!

[Dr. Acula]

On the best teams from each OAC school - are we including Wilmington? 

Bluestreak66 - I see the logic on selecting the 2016 team but the 2002 team would have rolled them. Yes, 2002 jcu got rolled by Mount but that was a GREAT Mount team: Adamson, Pugh, Knapp, Sirianni, Kern, Caponi, Clum, Campbell, Spisak, Dillard. 2016 Mount was a bit down and jcu got lucky (sorry but they still needed a last second prayer). Point is jcu 2002 had Arth at QB and as much as it pains me to say it - Arth was an absolutely incredible QB that would have picked apart the 2016 version.

That's actually easy.  It has to be the Adam Ryan squad when they first joined the OAC.  Back when they were actually...what's the word?  Good??   

Literally one year in 2000.  Not only did they have Adam Ryan, defensively they had a DB named Antonio Broadnax (from Cincy) who we had tried to convince attending TMC.  He was a player.  Mostly, they were scrappy kids from Cincy and they had enough success in the HCAC to not feel like doormats. 

I think BMoore is going to be successful there.... but its going to come in stages.

That Wilm squad had a couple really nice DL too.  They had some dudes that first year.  They went 7-2 in the OAC only losing to Mount and an ONU team that won a playoff game (before losing to Mount in the playoffs).

I hope Moore has success.  Anyone with the stones to tackle that job in the state it was deserves to win some ball games.

[HScoach]

Now that the season is over, I was thinking it might be kind of fun to identify the best team in the history of each OAC school! I'll let you Mount folk figure that out lol, but I'll start with JCU. I'd say it would have to be the 2016 team. They reached the semis in 2002, but that season, they were rolled by Mount twice. in 16, they came within a touchdown of heading for Salem. There were also some good teams in the 50s, but they didn't achieve the same post season success as the 2016 team.
For BW, it would have to be 1978, aka, the only year BW football as done anything haha!
Any others?

I know you asked for only the best team, but that's too easy to do with Mount since 1997 is a runaway train.   So I took the liberty of doing a Top 15.   Here's my 2 cents on the top Mount teams that I've seen since 1992 when the run to the top began:

Here's my 2 cents on the top Mount teams that I've seen since 1992 when the run began to the top:

1.   1997 - by a wide margin.  Lead by 4-year starter Bill Borchert, best QB to ever play at Mount.  His senior year was 61 TD's / 2 INT's.  The first of the great receiving corps with Knestric & Gollate out wide.  Defense led by junior MLB Jason Hall, the best of the best LB's in Mount history.  A true game changing LB who was regarded as the best in the conference, even over London Fletcher of Washington Redskins fame.

2.   2008 – Kmic was the most prolific RB in NCAA history. Micheli won the Gagliardi and was throwing to a NFL receiver in Cecil Shorts.  Kmic finished '08 with 2,790 yards / 43 TD.  Micheli completed 75% of his passes with 36 TD's.

3.   1993 – Jim Ballard won the first Gagliardi Award and is the Webster's definition of swagger.     70.1% completion / 4,572 yards / 54 TD's / 14 INT's.  Wasn't the pure athlete at QB that Borchert was, but he had a gun for an arm and ice in his veins.  IMHO, the greatest of the great leaders in Mount in history.  Had one of the top 5 WR's ever in Ed Bubonics and the best ever TE in Rob Atwood.  Defense was led by some guy named Mike Hallett who had 111 tackles, at DT.   Though most forget about him, Jim Gresko rushed for 1,517 yards/16 TD and caught 71 passes for 638 yards/11 TD's.  That was a scary good offense.

4.   2007 – Micheli & Kmic as juniors with Pierre Garcon as a senior.  Great team that came within a fumble in the freezing rain of a 4th title in a row.

5.   2001 – Great backfield of Gagliardi winning TB Chuck Moore and Dan Pugh, who won it the next year.   Defense was led by Matt Campbell, probably the best DE in Mount history.

6.   2015 – very good team that turned it up a few notches come playoff time.   Rose to the occasion along the O and D lines when it mattered most.   Logan Nemeth broke thru at RB to become Kmic-like and T Scott played with poise at QB.   Best player on the field was DT Tom Lally, who arguably was the best DT in Mount history.  At least most productive DT.

7.   2012 – very talented, senior dominated team across the board except for super sophomore Kevin Burke at QB.  Would be higher on list if they had better line play.  Good up front, but not great. 

8.   1996 – see the 1997 team, only as juniors

9.   1992 – The 1993 team as juniors dominated the semi-final at LaCrosse but turned it over 5 times on a frozen field.  Great team that came back in 1993 with an undying focus to win the first title.

10.   2002 – Led by Gagliardi winning RB Dan Pugh, 2,303 yards / 6.0 avg / 41 TD's, the '02 Raiders cruised to the title with a punishing ground game and a QB (Rob Adamson) that didn't get to show off his big arm due to the dominating ground game. 

11.   2006 – younger version of 2007.

12.   1998 - Very young team lead by a stud MLB (Jason Hall) and a bunch of kids that would end up great players.  Won a ton of close games that they had no business winning.

13.   2017 – Great WR corps made the offense go, but line play and RB's were average.   Defense stepped up when needed to win a title but too inconsistent to be any higher on the list. 

14.   2000 – solid in all phases, but not dominant other than Chuck Moore.   

15.   2005 – offense with limited QB play that caught lightning with Kmic as a freshman in the playoffs.