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[WRMUalum13]

I just meant that a program like Cass Tech is littered with athletes.  The best of them obviously go to UM, OSU, etc. but you'd have to think that even a program like that has kids that are undersized, not quite fast enough, etc. that could be nice D3 players.  It's similar to JCU mining Iggy for talent for years.  Sure the best kids at Iggy are going D1, but they also have a bunch of kids beyond that who are good players too.  I'm sure that's what Mount's thinking is with Cass Tech.

Mount's done pretty well with grabbing the "too small" or "too slow" St Ed's kids lately. 

having a coach devoted to only recruiting seems to be paying dividends for Mount.

Must be interesting to be a d3 recruiter, it's such a fine line between this kids good and he's too good he's gonna go D1 or D2.

D1 kids are pretty evident, Mount's not poaching many FBS or FCS kids.  But Mount can compete with a lot of D2 schools for financial aid and history of winning, etc

Can probably compete with "preferred walk on" FCS/ FBS guys too

[formerd3db]

I just meant that a program like Cass Tech is littered with athletes.  The best of them obviously go to UM, OSU, etc. but you'd have to think that even a program like that has kids that are undersized, not quite fast enough, etc. that could be nice D3 players.  It's similar to JCU mining Iggy for talent for years.  Sure the best kids at Iggy are going D1, but they also have a bunch of kids beyond that who are good players too.  I'm sure that's what Mount's thinking is with Cass Tech.

Mount's done pretty well with grabbing the "too small" or "too slow" St Ed's kids lately. 

having a coach devoted to only recruiting seems to be paying dividends for Mount.

Must be interesting to be a d3 recruiter, it's such a fine line between this kids good and he's too good he's gonna go D1 or D2.

D1 kids are pretty evident, Mount's not poaching many FBS or FCS kids.  But Mount can compete with a lot of D2 schools for financial aid and history of winning, etc

I agree with that, although there are always [usually, the accepted "standard" is to never say always, however, in this case, it is absolutely true as it does occur ] a couple of "sleepers" everywhere who are overlooked.  At Hope, recently we had two DI players scholarship players (one FCS who did get playing time and one FBS) who transferred and not surprisingly were starters at Hope.  Nonetheless, schools like Mount certainly can compete with DII schools, although I will say that for a school to do so, they also have to be willing to provide a comparable financial package (legit within DIII rules/standards, of course), yet some DIII schools are either not in a position to do that or they simply will not do so.   

[HScoach]

It's the exception to the rule, but if I remember right Greg Micheli turned down a D1 scholarship as a safety to play QB at Mount.  But then again he was a presidential academic scholar and therefore $ wasn't a issue.

[archgemini24]

It's the exception to the rule, but if I remember right Greg Micheli turned down a D1 scholarship as a safety to play QB at Mount.  But then again he was a presidential academic scholar and therefore $ wasn't a issue.

First, Greetings and Salutations, all. Long time Reader, First Time Poster! Hope everyone enjoyed the holiday season and, for the Raider faithful, No. 13.

As for this post, I am surprised Mount does not find more players who may have options at one position, but would like to continue their careers at a preferred position.

My recency bias immediately went to Taurice Scott, who could have gotten at least a partial to play WR elsewhere, but chose Mount to continue trying his hand at QB. He could not get from under Burke, but he had a great Senior year at QB, and there did not look to be a defense in D3 that could handle him as threat to run or pass every down.

[merlecanlas]

I just meant that a program like Cass Tech is littered with athletes.  The best of them obviously go to UM, OSU, etc. but you'd have to think that even a program like that has kids that are undersized, not quite fast enough, etc. that could be nice D3 players.  It's similar to JCU mining Iggy for talent for years.  Sure the best kids at Iggy are going D1, but they also have a bunch of kids beyond that who are good players too.  I'm sure that's what Mount's thinking is with Cass Tech.

Mount's done pretty well with grabbing the "too small" or "too slow" St Ed's kids lately. 

having a coach devoted to only recruiting seems to be paying dividends for Mount.

Must be interesting to be a d3 recruiter, it's such a fine line between this kids good and he's too good he's gonna go D1 or D2.

D1 kids are pretty evident, Mount's not poaching many FBS or FCS kids.  But Mount can compete with a lot of D2 schools for financial aid and history of winning, etc

Can probably compete with "preferred walk on" FCS/ FBS guys too

absolutely.  there's a couple of kids over here at Massillon that would be tremendous Mount players but have D1 preferred walk-on "offers"....to get their brains beat in at practice daily.

[ADL70]

I just meant that a program like Cass Tech is littered with athletes.  The best of them obviously go to UM, OSU, etc. but you'd have to think that even a program like that has kids that are undersized, not quite fast enough, etc. that could be nice D3 players.  It's similar to JCU mining Iggy for talent for years.  Sure the best kids at Iggy are going D1, but they also have a bunch of kids beyond that who are good players too.  I'm sure that's what Mount's thinking is with Cass Tech.

Mount's done pretty well with grabbing the "too small" or "too slow" St Ed's kids lately. 

having a coach devoted to only recruiting seems to be paying dividends for Mount.

Must be interesting to be a d3 recruiter, it's such a fine line between this kids good and he's too good he's gonna go D1 or D2.

D1 kids are pretty evident, Mount's not poaching many FBS or FCS kids.  But Mount can compete with a lot of D2 schools for financial aid and history of winning, etc

Can probably compete with "preferred walk on" FCS/ FBS guys too

Here's an example with D2 offers reported committed to UMU

http://scoutingohio.com/index.php?option=com_community&view=profile&userid=10382

[WRMUalum13]

I just meant that a program like Cass Tech is littered with athletes.  The best of them obviously go to UM, OSU, etc. but you'd have to think that even a program like that has kids that are undersized, not quite fast enough, etc. that could be nice D3 players.  It's similar to JCU mining Iggy for talent for years.  Sure the best kids at Iggy are going D1, but they also have a bunch of kids beyond that who are good players too.  I'm sure that's what Mount's thinking is with Cass Tech.

Mount's done pretty well with grabbing the "too small" or "too slow" St Ed's kids lately. 

having a coach devoted to only recruiting seems to be paying dividends for Mount.

Must be interesting to be a d3 recruiter, it's such a fine line between this kids good and he's too good he's gonna go D1 or D2.

D1 kids are pretty evident, Mount's not poaching many FBS or FCS kids.  But Mount can compete with a lot of D2 schools for financial aid and history of winning, etc

Can probably compete with "preferred walk on" FCS/ FBS guys too

Here's an example with D2 offers reported committed to UMU

http://scoutingohio.com/index.php?option=com_community&view=profile&userid=10382

Wow, great get for Mount, 6-3 290 is a beast for d3 line.  Wondering if he's closer to 6-2 170 in reality

[merlecanlas]

Mount's had some pretty good centers pretty recently.  6'3 or 6'2, he looks like a pretty good OL from a winning D2 in NE Ohio

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/3967805/59b7c2b2da5b6f0cb8752ee5

[Dr. Acula]

A key stat for him as a center too...33 ACT and 4.0 GPA. 

[edward de vere]

Not good.  Seriously not good.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/01/18/a-new-study-shows-that-hits-to-the-head-not-concussions-cause-cte/

[hsbsballcoach7]

I just meant that a program like Cass Tech is littered with athletes.  The best of them obviously go to UM, OSU, etc. but you'd have to think that even a program like that has kids that are undersized, not quite fast enough, etc. that could be nice D3 players.  It's similar to JCU mining Iggy for talent for years.  Sure the best kids at Iggy are going D1, but they also have a bunch of kids beyond that who are good players too.  I'm sure that's what Mount's thinking is with Cass Tech.

Mount's done pretty well with grabbing the "too small" or "too slow" St Ed's kids lately. 

having a coach devoted to only recruiting seems to be paying dividends for Mount.

Must be interesting to be a d3 recruiter, it's such a fine line between this kids good and he's too good he's gonna go D1 or D2.

D1 kids are pretty evident, Mount's not poaching many FBS or FCS kids.  But Mount can compete with a lot of D2 schools for financial aid and history of winning, etc

Can probably compete with "preferred walk on" FCS/ FBS guys too

absolutely.  there's a couple of kids over here at Massillon that would be tremendous Mount players but have D1 preferred walk-on "offers"....to get their brains beat in at practice daily.

I saw two recent Massillon guys have preferred walk on opportunities at OSU...can you get a bug in their ear about UMU? Or better yet get Robinson on it!

[Desertraider]

Mount doesn't poach many FBS/FCS - that absolutely correct. And yes Mount can compete in terms of financial aid etc with the D2's - but I have taught at both Mount and 2 area D2s and there is one thing that "goes against" Mount - Academics. As in Mount has them. I talked with and saw some really talented D2 kids over the years and I had them in class as well. Bottom line: they took the scholarship because they didn't think they could stay eligible and graduate at Mount and didn't want to owe a ton in loans. The scholarship and lower tuition pushed them that way (along with easier academics). On the field - studs. In the classroom - wow. Not quite as impressive. I am not saying ALL D2 athletes fit this category - but enough of them do. A number of them also get duped by the scholarship - they think it's theirs. Then they get to the school. Play a year and have the scholarship reduced to half or less in the off season term. Anyway.

On the academics - every writing assignment I grade is run through an analysis program to determine writing level. At NDC and Walsh the norm was grade 8 to grade 11 (my last NDC term a class of 14 JR/SR had 9 writing at the 8th grade level). This is for college Juniors and Seniors. At Mount the norm was 13-15. I think the academic emphasis at Mount and other D3 schools weeds out a number of possible recruits to the D2s. Yep - I said it. I think some of the D2 kids considering Mount would have preferred Mount but the academics pushed them away. Sorry - but the academics at the D2s I have been a part of (NDC and Walsh) just don't compare favorably.

What I find funny is none of the ones I have talked to opted out of Mount because of the depth chart - they all said "I would start" or my favorite "Coaches said I would be starter day 1". Even though a number of FCS/FBS over the years have transferred and found themselves as back-ups.

Ok. Rambled enough.

[ADL70]

A key stat for him as a center too...33 ACT and 4.0 GPA.

" Looking for a great engineering school, with a great football team."  Guess we know what his priority was.  Those grades/scores should have gotten him into that great engineering school a bit further north with a pretty good football team.

[edward de vere]

Here, let me beat DesertRaider to it:  Dahlinger's probably not talented enough to play for Michigan.

[edward de vere]

And now, let me beat ADL70 to it:  "I said with a pretty good football team."

(I'll be here all week, folks.  TWO shows on Sunday.)