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[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

  "Quickly",  in Broward County in way different than "Quickly."  Remember, he was in high school when this allegedly occurred, and damn near on Social Security when the prosecutors got around to attempting to prosecute the case.

I'm sorry... I can't resist.

I'm pretty sure the delay in prosecuting the case has more to do with the fact the suspect didn't follow proper procedure and show up for court, or something. I mean... if only a warrant for his arrest didn't need to be made... or the police knew to cross state lines to find him, right? Then the prosecutor could have gotten around to things "quicker." I am sure the prosecutor was frustrated that a police department in Ohio pulled the young man over for speeding and found the outstanding warrant. I am sure the prosecutor was hoping to kick the can down the alley a little further and hope to never deal with the case. I mean ... it is pretty common procedure in these here United State of America to prosecute cases when the suspects/accused are no where to be found.

Yep... it's Broward County's fault. It's the prosecutor's fault. Yep. That's it.

Hell, I'm not even a lawyer.

[purple]

 Actually Dave, his lawyer told me the young man was stopped for a traffic violation in Broward County a year after the warrant was issued and nothing came up. I was also told that his parent moved to a different address within Broward County and so the notice to him to appear was never received. It would have only been addressed to his parent , not him, because he was a juvenile at the time. One commentator when this first broke wrote that he worked inn law enforcement in Broward County and this kind of sloppiness was typical and not at all surprising to him. It's not like he was in hiding. Yeah, I do think it is the fault of the Broward County criminal justice system this wasn't resolved when he was in high school. It's not like this was some complicated forensic case . Sure couldn't happen in any County in Ohio I have ever been in.

[joelmama]

Oh this could happen anywhere.  it does every day..  Although there is a lot of good work done in the Justice system, there is also a lot of places where the work is extremely sloppy.  As for the courts getting any case through in ales than a couple years is considered good work unless you are in the Rocket docket cases in Virginia.

[raiderpa]

Will be interesting to see the post-season All American squad and compare to pre-season.  Very difficult to make these selections and I give great credit to D3 crew for their due diligence in selecting and making sure that one or two teams dominate the selections.
That being said, I predict that Danny Robinson or Nick Brish will appear on the post season team. 

I will also be interested to see the difference that Poorman makes in the offense at MHB.  I believe if he were at QB for MHB in the Stagg, the outcome could have very possibly been different. But that is just one man's opinion. 
I felt that MHB had everything they needed to beat Mount, but their QB play just was not good that night.

[emma17]

Interesting thought there Raiderpa. I understand a better QB can change the dynamics of an offense, but I'm just not sold that UMHB had the rest of the pieces in place. 
UMHB's oline was outmatched by Mt.'s D.
UMHB had 42 rushing attempts for a .9 yard average.
Mt sacked Robinson 8 times. Sure, he could have been holding the ball too long, but coverage has something to do with that. UMHB lost receiver Wilkerson early in the game.
St. Thomas showed what a good defense could do to UMHB.

[HScoach]

^ count me on the side that good QB play wins it for MHB last season.  Yes, Mount had 8 sacks but many of them wouldn't have been if the QB had quickly gotten rid of the ball.  I've re-watched the game multiple times and most of the pressure wasn't at the snap.  It was delayed enough that either the QB should have thrown a quicker route or at least chucked it out of bounds.  It wasn't like Mount completely overwhelmed the line of scrimmage at the snap and the QB had no chance to do anything.  Either the QB pissed down his leg or the coaching staff wasn't able to change the plan to something else.  Fulford was under quicker pressure than Robinson and he did much better job of getting the ball out of his hand quickly or evading the rush.   

Which brings me to thought that I've had ever since seeing MHB clear back in '04.  They win with superior players, not superior tactics or precision.  Supremely athletic teams but I never thought of them as well coached.  I know that Luke Poorman can play QB at a high level.  This season will help me determine if the problem has been the kids to play QB at MHB or whether the coaching staff is the problem.  To date I equate Pete Fredenberg to John Cooper.  Good guy that is well liked, can recruit very well but not a capable tactician on game day.

[wally_wabash]

There's about 245 (maybe a low estimate) teams in the division that would love to have whatever deficiencies Pete Fredenburg has at UMHB.  Maybe he gets outfoxed by Mount Union more than he doesn't, but he's always had a really good chance against the Raiders which is more than anybody outside of the Leipold UWW teams have had. 

[purple]

   These absurd statements like, "MHB would have beat Mount Union if Poorman was playing quarterback" irritate me. How the hell do you know that? Complete BS.  If Orlando Pace and Joe Thomas were on MHB line, Mount would not have been able to sack the quarterback. So absurd.

[emma17]

Purple, I'm with you.
Uhm, if Poorman was at QB then I assume the Mt coaching staff would have had a different defensive game plan. It seems there is likely agreement the Mt coaching staff is superior to the UMHB staff.

If Mt has the better staff, better line play, better receivers, equal defense and at least a similarly skilled QB, I just don't understand the "Mt loses against Poorman's Crusaders" theory.

[crufootball]

I am curious for anyone in the group, in what ways do you think Coach Pete and staff could have done better?

[WRMUalum13]

Purple, I'm with you.
Uhm, if Poorman was at QB then I assume the Mt coaching staff would have had a different defensive game plan. It seems there is likely agreement the Mt coaching staff is superior to the UMHB staff.

If Mt has the better staff, better line play, better receivers, equal defense and at least a similarly skilled QB, I just don't understand the "Mt loses against Poorman's Crusaders" theory.

This whole convo seems like it would be better suited for the ASW boards. Who cares what hypothetical scenario would have resulted in a mount loss. It didn't, let's move on to 2018!

... so speaking of qb play, what does the mount depth chart look like behind fulford?

[Desertraider]

Coach Fred? Poorman? QB play? I thought it was already scientifically proven that UMHB lost because of the type of fat cells present in players accustomed to playing in warmer temps? Wasn't it 'brown fat' versus some other fat? If the game was played in Belton - UMHB wins 56-3 and brown fat prevails. Can't argue with science. 

[Desertraider]

Here it is...from Ralph Turner:

"The physiological change that UMHB could achieve with practicing for several autumns and living in winter climes for several is to induce the production of more brown fat cells and the resultant activity of warming due to brown fat in the body. This fat generates heat more efficiently than other parts of the body."

[rscl70]

Here it is...from Ralph Turner:

"The physiological change that UMHB could achieve with practicing for several autumns and living in winter climes for several is to induce the production of more brown fat cells and the resultant activity of warming due to brown fat in the body. This fat generates heat more efficiently than other parts of the body."

If this is a determining factor then MHB had best take advantage of the next two Stags in Texas, 'cause in Canton in 2020 brown fat prevails.

[HScoach]

Hmmm, ya think Alex Grinch wishes he was still at WSU?