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[WRMUalum13]

Going back to the roster size discussion...I did a quick count and the freshmen roster is already down 14 kids.  IMO that is not abnormal for Mount.  They always lose a chunk before week 1 and then another chunk in December after the semester ends.

And keep in mind the student body in general shrinks after the first couple weeks. A percentage of the freshman population just won't be ready for college, being away from home etc.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Going back to the roster size discussion...I did a quick count and the freshmen roster is already down 14 kids.  IMO that is not abnormal for Mount.  They always lose a chunk before week 1 and then another chunk in December after the semester ends.

Saw this today:  By the Numbers: Mount Union fields the most Football Players in Ohio

[Desertraider]

Going back to the roster size discussion...I did a quick count and the freshmen roster is already down 14 kids.  IMO that is not abnormal for Mount.  They always lose a chunk before week 1 and then another chunk in December after the semester ends.

And keep in mind the student body in general shrinks after the first couple weeks. A percentage of the freshman population just won't be ready for college, being away from home etc.

The number of first years that leave and go back home after a couple of weeks is probably incredibly small. I will grant you that between 5-12 first years won't come back after the end of first term - but in 12 years at Mount I can't recall the issue of first week dropouts being discussed. I do recall a few years back that panic nearly ensued when the reporting freshman class was 12 students short of the expected arrivals. It was listed as a major concern and several committees met to address the issue....because 12 people (max) decided to not show up. If they also had an additional 10-15 leaving after the first couple of weeks...I am sure it would have been addressed.

[WRMUalum13]

Going back to the roster size discussion...I did a quick count and the freshmen roster is already down 14 kids.  IMO that is not abnormal for Mount.  They always lose a chunk before week 1 and then another chunk in December after the semester ends.

And keep in mind the student body in general shrinks after the first couple weeks. A percentage of the freshman population just won't be ready for college, being away from home etc.

The number of first years that leave and go back home after a couple of weeks is probably incredibly small. I will grant you that between 5-12 first years won't come back after the end of first term - but in 12 years at Mount I can't recall the issue of first week dropouts being discussed. I do recall a few years back that panic nearly ensued when the reporting freshman class was 12 students short of the expected arrivals. It was listed as a major concern and several committees met to address the issue....because 12 people (max) decided to not show up. If they also had an additional 10-15 leaving after the first couple of weeks...I am sure it would have been addressed.

Oh, huh. When I was  a student I was told that  the fact we didn't get labor day off was mostly to improve retention for freshman, so I always assumed lots of kids left in the first few weeks. You've disrupted my worldview desertraider lol!

[WRMUalum13]

Anyone here any news about Walsh's qb situation? I'm fascinated with Dom Davis story and I'm hoping he tears it up for the Cavaliers. It would be an amazing recruiting tool for Mount if he were to have a successful d2 career after being a 3rd stringer in Alliance.

[purple]

  The Canton Repository ran a story today about Walsh football and it did not seem Dom Davis was in the top two for the starting QB position.
  On another note Coach VK reported tonight one of the returning starters on the offensive line was lost for the season due to an injury suffered in practice.

[Desertraider]

Going back to the roster size discussion...I did a quick count and the freshmen roster is already down 14 kids.  IMO that is not abnormal for Mount.  They always lose a chunk before week 1 and then another chunk in December after the semester ends.

And keep in mind the student body in general shrinks after the first couple weeks. A percentage of the freshman population just won't be ready for college, being away from home etc.

The number of first years that leave and go back home after a couple of weeks is probably incredibly small. I will grant you that between 5-12 first years won't come back after the end of first term - but in 12 years at Mount I can't recall the issue of first week dropouts being discussed. I do recall a few years back that panic nearly ensued when the reporting freshman class was 12 students short of the expected arrivals. It was listed as a major concern and several committees met to address the issue....because 12 people (max) decided to not show up. If they also had an additional 10-15 leaving after the first couple of weeks...I am sure it would have been addressed.

Oh, huh. When I was  a student I was told that  the fact we didn't get labor day off was mostly to improve retention for freshman, so I always assumed lots of kids left in the first few weeks. You've disrupted my worldview desertraider lol!

You are right about that but for the wrong reason. The study showed that students who went home labor day weekend were more likely to continue returning home on weekends during their first semester and not get involved in campus groups and activities making them less likely to return for the second semester. They normally have classes and additional activities that weekend as a way to break students old routine and getting them more involved.

[formerd3db]

Going back to the roster size discussion...I did a quick count and the freshmen roster is already down 14 kids.  IMO that is not abnormal for Mount.  They always lose a chunk before week 1 and then another chunk in December after the semester ends.

And keep in mind the student body in general shrinks after the first couple weeks. A percentage of the freshman population just won't be ready for college, being away from home etc.

The number of first years that leave and go back home after a couple of weeks is probably incredibly small. I will grant you that between 5-12 first years won't come back after the end of first term - but in 12 years at Mount I can't recall the issue of first week dropouts being discussed. I do recall a few years back that panic nearly ensued when the reporting freshman class was 12 students short of the expected arrivals. It was listed as a major concern and several committees met to address the issue....because 12 people (max) decided to not show up. If they also had an additional 10-15 leaving after the first couple of weeks...I am sure it would have been addressed.

Oh, huh. When I was  a student I was told that  the fact we didn't get labor day off was mostly to improve retention for freshman, so I always assumed lots of kids left in the first few weeks. You've disrupted my worldview desertraider lol!

You are right about that but for the wrong reason. The study showed that students who went home labor day weekend were more likely to continue returning home on weekends during their first semester and not get involved in campus groups and activities making them less likely to return for the second semester. They normally have classes and additional activities that weekend as a way to break students old routine and getting them more involved.

Actually, while the numbers of those freshman and/or other new underclassmen/women incoming students (including fall athletes) at Hope several years ago (a couple of decades ago) who left to go home on Labor Day weekend/Labor Day and never returned was a smaller number, still it did happen.  I do not recall the exact numbers right off hand (but could find out, although it doesn't really matter).  Yet, that was exactly why the College changed the semester schedule to have classes start the week before Labor Day weekend (they started two days ago on Tuesday this year) and also now have classes on Labor Day.

Having classes on Labor Day has been thought to help retain those students, but also help the students who live in other states who otherwise would have difficulty in getting transportation there and back (or none at all).  Those students can then enjoy the Labor DAy weekend by going to the beach at Lake Michigan, being invited to fellow classmates/friends homes who live nearby in the region who can go home and/or, similar to what you guys have mentioned, there are some campus and community activities such as Hope's Annual Community Day Game and Celebration with the City of Holland.  The latter is always the first home game and that works well regarding the above situation in the years when Hope's opening game of the season is a home game.

However, for another small number of people, having classes on Labor Day does not sit well.  Some profs (what is your preference desertraider as an educator?) did not necessarily like it (not all, but some) nor do some of the students.  Back in my day at Hope, we looked forward to having that day off, although we always had a short practice in the afternoon. Remember, back then, the DIII season for the majority of schools did not start on Labor Day weekend, although the final pre-season scrimmages were held on that Saturday.  But that gave us players the rest of the weekend from Sat afternoon until Monday afternoon's practice off, you could do quite a few other things in the area as mentioned or just simply relax.  For me personally, and some others, were I a player today, I still would prefer not having classes on Labor Day having Labor Day off, but, then again, I guess I am just "old school."    

Probably though, today's football players don't mind it.  They do whatever the schedule dictates. 

[SaintsFAN]

Anyone here any news about Walsh's qb situation? I'm fascinated with Dom Davis story and I'm hoping he tears it up for the Cavaliers. It would be an amazing recruiting tool for Mount if he were to have a successful d2 career after being a 3rd stringer in Alliance.

Does Mount Union need anymore recruiting tools??

[rscl70]

  The Canton Repository ran a story today about Walsh football and it did not seem Dom Davis was in the top two for the starting QB position.
  On another note Coach VK reported tonight one of the returning starters on the offensive line was lost for the season due to an injury suffered in practice.

Purple, thanks for attending last night, and thank you for supporting M Club.  MUC57, where were you?  I know, you're old and you forget things.

[Dr. Acula]

  The Canton Repository ran a story today about Walsh football and it did not seem Dom Davis was in the top two for the starting QB position.
  On another note Coach VK reported tonight one of the returning starters on the offensive line was lost for the season due to an injury suffered in practice.

I'm thinking maybe that was just generic preview speak in that the two guys mentioned at QB are the only two QB's returning from last year that took a snap.  Neither played well last year so I'd be shocked if Davis and/or the freshman kid from Mentor aren't in the mix at QB.

[Dr. Acula]

Going back to the roster size discussion...I did a quick count and the freshmen roster is already down 14 kids.  IMO that is not abnormal for Mount.  They always lose a chunk before week 1 and then another chunk in December after the semester ends.

And keep in mind the student body in general shrinks after the first couple weeks. A percentage of the freshman population just won't be ready for college, being away from home etc.

The number of first years that leave and go back home after a couple of weeks is probably incredibly small. I will grant you that between 5-12 first years won't come back after the end of first term - but in 12 years at Mount I can't recall the issue of first week dropouts being discussed. I do recall a few years back that panic nearly ensued when the reporting freshman class was 12 students short of the expected arrivals. It was listed as a major concern and several committees met to address the issue....because 12 people (max) decided to not show up. If they also had an additional 10-15 leaving after the first couple of weeks...I am sure it would have been addressed.

Not sure about WRMU, but for clarification, in my post I was referring to kids leaving the football team before week 1 and after the semester not leaving school altogether.  I was only going by the changes you tend to see on the roster throughout the year.   

[wally_wabash]

  The Canton Repository ran a story today about Walsh football and it did not seem Dom Davis was in the top two for the starting QB position.
  On another note Coach VK reported tonight one of the returning starters on the offensive line was lost for the season due to an injury suffered in practice.

I'm thinking maybe that was just generic preview speak in that the two guys mentioned at QB are the only two QB's returning from last year that took a snap.  Neither played well last year so I'd be shocked if Davis and/or the freshman kid from Mentor aren't in the mix at QB.

Neither are on the two deep posted for tonight's game. 

[MUC57]

rscl70

I forgot! ☠🏈

[MUC57]

rscl70

I just made that up. I didn't forget! I heard VK speak at media day and he was the main one in which I had the most interest. So, I just skipped it. And sometimes I get mixed up! Go Raiders! ☠🏈