FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[WRMUalum13]

Given the DRAMATIC improvement in the QB play at UMHB this year, I would vote UMHB #1 in the polls.

(Not that I have a vote, not that I SHOULD have a vote and not that it really matters at this point.)

Let the negative karma begin. . . .

No I agree. The cru looked dominant against their ranked opponent this year. But Mount struggled with JCU. If I were voting I'd pick UMHB 1 and UMU 2 at this point. I don't abide by the #1 until proven otherwise philosophy because 2017 is not the same team as 2018.

[mr_mom]

Given all the high-profile games with ranked teams in week 6, there wasn't a single upset and that surprised many of us.  Not a surprise that the average score in the 2018 OAC Pick-Em was only 7 of the 14 available points.  aueagle and shark were high scorers this week with 11 points, also in double-digits was wesleydad one back.

Despite not winning a single week, "Mr. Consistency" wesleydad retains his position as the overall leader, now two more than gobash83.

Week # 7 spreads will come out Monday night.

[umhb2001]

There are periodic posts about the UMHB QB situation, specifically around Poorman, which is not a surprise. I'll admit, when I learned of Poorman transferring, I figured he'd be the QB. I guess Hammack has won the battle. Hammack used to be at ASC opponent McMurry, which is in Abilene where Hardin Simmons and Abilene Christian are located. Oddly enough, Hammack also went to Abilene Christian.

Coach Fred has repeatedly said that Hammack has the best arm, Poorman has the knowledge and overall athleticism with being able to run and throw, and Denarian Thomas, a QB in high school who has played WR for us since he's been here, has the speed and good throwing ability. The HSU broadcast yesterday identified Poorman as the 3rd string QB, which is false. He has consistently been listed as the QB2.

I think the reason Denarian plays more is that if Hammack goes down, Luke goes right in as the starter. Luke has the knowledge base and experience to run the plays and pick up the blitz packages a defense may run. I'm not sure Denarian can do that.

Finally, I highly doubt there is any scenario in which Luke transfers back to UMU or any other college.

[HScoach]

It appears 2018 is the first time we can say that MHB is winning because of their QB instead of the usual in spite of the QB.

[raiderpa]

On the running clock:  Ohio high school has a running clock when a team goes down by 35 points. Clock does not stop for out of bounds, incompletions, first downs.  If a team cuts it under 35, the clock operation goes back to normal. But if margin returns to 35 or more the clock runs again.
I just wonder if a team is down by 42 in the fourth qtr if this would not be worthwhile.  That being said, I have seen Mount Union agree to run the clock and not agree to run it in the fourth quarter, the argument being that players that normally do not get time get to play.
Perhaps it is ok for high school where some teams do not have the numbers that colleges have, but not viable for colleges.

[Desertraider]

On the running clock - I know that in HS it is automatic as stated. I am just not sure if the coaches can agree to one in NCAA. From what I read they can agree to shorten remaining quarters but the clock operation remains the same. Its odd IMHO.

On Poorman not transferring.......stay tuned.  I don't have inside scoop or knowledge. Just saying if a kid transfers to play and doesn't play there.....yada yada yada..."I have always wanted to play at Hardin Simmons....." 

[edward de vere]

I highly doubt there is any scenario in which Luke transfers back to UMU or any other college.

When I made that comment about transferring back to Mount Union my tongue was planted quite firmly in my cheek.

[hsbsballcoach7]

On the running clock:  Ohio high school has a running clock when a team goes down by 35 points. Clock does not stop for out of bounds, incompletions, first downs.  If a team cuts it under 35, the clock operation goes back to normal. But if margin returns to 35 or more the clock runs again.
I just wonder if a team is down by 42 in the fourth qtr if this would not be worthwhile.  That being said, I have seen Mount Union agree to run the clock and not agree to run it in the fourth quarter, the argument being that players that normally do not get time get to play.
Perhaps it is ok for high school where some teams do not have the numbers that colleges have, but not viable for colleges.

Don't want to be that guy, but it's a 30 point differential in OHSAA football. Last game I went to this week ended that way.

[WRMUalum13]

It appears 2018 is the first time we can say that MHB is winning because of their QB instead of the usual in spite of the QB.

I'd say the first time in the last few years. but IIRC ladarrel Bailey in 2012 was a key part of their offense's success.

[edward de vere]

On Poorman not transferring.......stay tuned.  I don't have inside scoop or knowledge. Just saying if a kid transfers to play and doesn't play there.....yada yada yada..."I have always wanted to play at Hardin Simmons....." 

If football's important to him - and I think it is - it would be a shame for one of the top 30 or so quarterbacks in D3 to not play much from now to graduation.  The problem is he really boxed himself in with the "God wants me to play at UMHB" comment.

But so what.  If he really wants to start somewhere he can just say that he's young and, upon further consideration, "maybe God doesn't give a rat's ass about where I play football."

[umhb2001]

On UMHB QB's, Zach Anderson took us to the semifinal against Whitewater, but with a coaching mishap, miscue, think Marshawn Lynch when he should have gotten the handoff in the Superbowl, it didn't happen.

Lidarral Bailey was really good. Had the athleticism and scramble ability. I wouldn't say he was the purest passer.

Blake had a better arm than Lidarral, and had he not gotten hurt in 2015, he would have been starting in the playoffs. He is by far the best all-around QB we had to that point.

Jase and Luke are two of the smartest QB's we've had, and Coach Fred really appreciates Luke. I believe Luke when he says he feels like "God is moving him to UMHB". Playing is what he is doing, just maybe not our definition of playing. Usually, God works differently than the way we think or imagine.

[miac952]

St. Glenn is BACK!! Up 73-14 in the 4th qtr with 4:11 on the clock the Tommies....GO FOR for 2! The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

Throw out an inflammatory lie, find out the opposite is true. Get busted. Don't say a word. Good look

[Toby Taff]

On the running clock - I know that in HS it is automatic as stated. I am just not sure if the coaches can agree to one in NCAA. From what I read they can agree to shorten remaining quarters but the clock operation remains the same. Its odd IMHO.

On Poorman not transferring.......stay tuned.  I don't have inside scoop or knowledge. Just saying if a kid transfers to play and doesn't play there.....yada yada yada..."I have always wanted to play at Hardin Simmons....." 

Institutionally HSU is making deep cuts in programs and faculty. I was talking to an alumnus and former classmate of mine who is a staff member at another Baptist university in the state that said anyone lacking tenure right now is on the block. They're offering buy-outs to long time profs, and they are gutting majors and programs that have been part of the school for a century. Any program operating in the red is at risk. There would be a lot to consider before making that transfer

[edward de vere]

Jase and Luke are two of the smartest QB's we've had, and Coach Fred really appreciates Luke. I believe Luke when he says he feels like "God is moving him to UMHB". Playing is what he is doing, just maybe not our definition of playing. Usually, God works differently than the way we think or imagine.

1.)  I am 100% certain Coach Fred appreciates Luke.  What coach doesn't appreciate high-quality, high-character backup quarterbacks?  You think Vince Kehres didn't appreciate being able to plug Poorman in as starting QB in that playoff game last year?

2.)  I also believe Luke was 100% sincere in his statement.  (Not necessarily correct - but sincere.)

3.)  It is theoretically possible that THERE IS NO GOD.  Just sayin'.

[Desertraider]

St. Glenn is BACK!! Up 73-14 in the 4th qtr with 4:11 on the clock the Tommies....GO FOR for 2! The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

Throw out an inflammatory lie, find out the opposite is true. Get busted. Don't say a word. Good look

In this case it doesn't meet the criteria for either. Now if it were inflammatory (intended to incite anger or violence) it would have been posted in the MIAC board to draw a reaction. To push toward the 'anger and violence' it would have probably had a few colorful adjectives sprinkled in for shock value. It wasn't posted there so it wasn't meant to draw any reaction really. Just stated that A) Glenn is the Coach at UST, B) Glenn elected to go for 2 up 73-14.

Now on to the lie. The fact that the score was 73-14; there was 4:11 on the clock; that it was the 4th quarter; and the Tommies did not attempt a PAT but instead kept the offense on the field makes the statement factually correct. Regardless, of what they did (fall on it, spike it, spin around and toss it over their head to the back of the endzone to a waiting player - just a made up example on that one  ) it is recorded in the book as a 2 pt try. Since it is recorded as a 2 pt try...while being up 73-14 in the 4th qtr with 4:11 on the clock - it isn't a lie.

Glad I could help clear things up for you. Have a good night.