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Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)
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Jase and Luke are two of the smartest QB's we've had, and Coach Fred really appreciates Luke. I believe Luke when he says he feels like "God is moving him to UMHB". Playing is what he is doing, just maybe not our definition of playing. Usually, God works differently than the way we think or imagine.

1.)  I am 100% certain Coach Fred appreciates Luke.  What coach doesn't appreciate high-quality, high-character backup quarterbacks?  You think Vince Kehres didn't appreciate being able to plug Poorman in as starting QB in that playoff game last year?

2.)  I also believe Luke was 100% sincere in his statement.  (Not necessarily correct - but sincere.)

3.)  It is theoretically possible that THERE IS NO GOD.  Just sayin'.

Theoretically, anything is possible until enough experience and first hand encounters tell you otherwise.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.   
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Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

So 63 is ok but 73 is where you draw the line and it's definitely too much? What's the tipping point from ok to not ok? Is it 64? 68? 72?

bluestreak66

Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.
Far be it from me to defend Caruso, there are times where a teams is over matched to the point that the bottom of the depth chart is in for the other  (as appears to be the case here), and they still can't stop them. In many regards, its very hard to tell your players that never play that they can't run their offense and make plays. I think the bigger problem here is the disparity from top to bottom in many D3 leagues. In all honesty, St. Thomas's 3rd string would probably finish in the middle of the pack of the MIAC if they played as a separate varsity team (or at least win a couple games)
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Quote from: bluestreak66 on October 08, 2018, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.
Far be it from me to defend Caruso, there are times where a teams is over matched to the point that the bottom of the depth chart is in for the other  (as appears to be the case here), and they still can't stop them. In many regards, its very hard to tell your players that never play that they can't run their offense and make plays. I think the bigger problem here is the disparity from top to bottom in many D3 leagues. In all honesty, St. Thomas's 3rd string would probably finish in the middle of the pack of the MIAC if they played as a separate varsity team (or at least win a couple games)

The final drive was a few nice runs by a Freshman RB (who would be about #5 on the depth chart, seeing his first real time) with a couple of runs by Fr FB including the TD (also #5 on the depth chart).

After a slow start (game was 21-14), we were still able to get the starters out of the game at halftime, but they were right there on the sidelines cheering on the younger guys/freshman. It was really cool to see, actually. I'm obviously biased and have bought into the Caruso system (and often am familiar with his thinking in situations that can be interpreted as classless or whatever) but often the Caruso hatred extends beyond rationality to the point of doubling or tripling down when folks are proven wrong.

miac952

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 08:52:53 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

So 63 is ok but 73 is where you draw the line and it's definitely too much? What's the tipping point from ok to not ok? Is it 64? 68? 72?

Par for the course for DR. Stalk the results and rip on a former QB that transfers. Tries to cover his tracks with the UST BS. Oh well! There is usually one bad seed mixed amongst the good ones.

miac952

Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

This is rich coming on the cusp of a Mount 63-7 win. Not much can be done when there is a 5TH STRING rb going off tackle. Take your shots with Glen, but this isn't one of them. No different than countless Mount examples of an overmatched opponent getting rolled by 4th and 5th stringers with simple running plays.

jamtod

Quote from: miac952 on October 08, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

This is rich coming on the cusp of a Mount 63-7 win. Not much can be done when there is a 5TH STRING rb going off tackle. Take your shots with Glen, but this isn't one of them. No different than countless Mount examples of an overmatched opponent getting rolled by 4th and 5th stringers with simple running plays.

The unwritten rules work differently when it involves somebody that you've already determined you don't like.

I'm just glad we can shift a bit of banter to the OAC board and keep the MIAC a bit cleaner to recognize Gagliardi's legacy... at least for a bit, I'm sure the rhetoric will ramp up as the week goes on. I had a buddy in town this weekend that lives in eastern Ohio (about 1.5 hours from Alliance). If all the stars align and UST faces Mount in Alliance for a semifinal matchup, we gathered the wife's permission for me to fly out and spend the weekend with him and attend the game. Here's hoping. There's a few (ok, maybe just a couple or maybe just MUC57) classy Mount Union posters on here that I'd love to meet and share a beer with.  :) ;)

skunks_sidekick

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: miac952 on October 08, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

This is rich coming on the cusp of a Mount 63-7 win. Not much can be done when there is a 5TH STRING rb going off tackle. Take your shots with Glen, but this isn't one of them. No different than countless Mount examples of an overmatched opponent getting rolled by 4th and 5th stringers with simple running plays.

The unwritten rules work differently when it involves somebody that you've already determined you don't like.

I'm just glad we can shift a bit of banter to the OAC board and keep the MIAC a bit cleaner to recognize Gagliardi's legacy... at least for a bit, I'm sure the rhetoric will ramp up as the week goes on. I had a buddy in town this weekend that lives in eastern Ohio (about 1.5 hours from Alliance). If all the stars align and UST faces Mount in Alliance for a semifinal matchup, we gathered the wife's permission for me to fly out and spend the weekend with him and attend the game. Here's hoping. There's a few (ok, maybe just a couple or maybe just MUC57) classy Mount Union posters on here that I'd love to meet and share a beer with.  :) ;)

Drink beer with a Tommie?  That would be blasphemy on an epic scale!   Besides, we don't drink beer here in Raider land.  It's rum, moonshine, or in MUC's case a fun punch of Metamucil, Ensure, and we let him have 1/2 of a Genny Light so he sleeps better at night.   ;) 8-)

JCUStreaks70

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: miac952 on October 08, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

This is rich coming on the cusp of a Mount 63-7 win. Not much can be done when there is a 5TH STRING rb going off tackle. Take your shots with Glen, but this isn't one of them. No different than countless Mount examples of an overmatched opponent getting rolled by 4th and 5th stringers with simple running plays.

The unwritten rules work differently when it involves somebody that you've already determined you don't like.

I'm just glad we can shift a bit of banter to the OAC board and keep the MIAC a bit cleaner to recognize Gagliardi's legacy... at least for a bit, I'm sure the rhetoric will ramp up as the week goes on. I had a buddy in town this weekend that lives in eastern Ohio (about 1.5 hours from Alliance). If all the stars align and UST faces Mount in Alliance for a semifinal matchup, we gathered the wife's permission for me to fly out and spend the weekend with him and attend the game. Here's hoping. There's a few (ok, maybe just a couple or maybe just MUC57) classy Mount Union posters on here that I'd love to meet and share a beer with.  :) ;)

Or maybe, just maybe, you get to have the Catholics of NE Ohio (and Chicago) make a trek up to the Twin Cities for a JCU-UST Match-up.

While a long way to go before I can even plan a potential semi-final run, I would love the chance to play SJU or UST sometime in the playoff's!
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jamtod

Quote from: skunks_sidekick on October 08, 2018, 11:47:40 AM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: miac952 on October 08, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

This is rich coming on the cusp of a Mount 63-7 win. Not much can be done when there is a 5TH STRING rb going off tackle. Take your shots with Glen, but this isn't one of them. No different than countless Mount examples of an overmatched opponent getting rolled by 4th and 5th stringers with simple running plays.

The unwritten rules work differently when it involves somebody that you've already determined you don't like.

I'm just glad we can shift a bit of banter to the OAC board and keep the MIAC a bit cleaner to recognize Gagliardi's legacy... at least for a bit, I'm sure the rhetoric will ramp up as the week goes on. I had a buddy in town this weekend that lives in eastern Ohio (about 1.5 hours from Alliance). If all the stars align and UST faces Mount in Alliance for a semifinal matchup, we gathered the wife's permission for me to fly out and spend the weekend with him and attend the game. Here's hoping. There's a few (ok, maybe just a couple or maybe just MUC57) classy Mount Union posters on here that I'd love to meet and share a beer with.  :) ;)

Drink beer with a Tommie?  That would be blasphemy on an epic scale!   Besides, we don't drink beer here in Raider land.  It's rum, moonshine, or in MUC's case a fun punch of Metamucil, Ensure, and we let him have 1/2 of a Genny Light so he sleeps better at night.   ;) 8-)

I can bring some moonshine along from my native Iowa. If this pipedream happens, I'll have to bring some already to my Tommie friend who works in Steubenville already.

I think you'd find that us Tommies aren't completely terrible people over a good glass of whiskey.

jamtod

Quote from: JCUStreaks70 on October 08, 2018, 11:55:06 AM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: miac952 on October 08, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

This is rich coming on the cusp of a Mount 63-7 win. Not much can be done when there is a 5TH STRING rb going off tackle. Take your shots with Glen, but this isn't one of them. No different than countless Mount examples of an overmatched opponent getting rolled by 4th and 5th stringers with simple running plays.

The unwritten rules work differently when it involves somebody that you've already determined you don't like.

I'm just glad we can shift a bit of banter to the OAC board and keep the MIAC a bit cleaner to recognize Gagliardi's legacy... at least for a bit, I'm sure the rhetoric will ramp up as the week goes on. I had a buddy in town this weekend that lives in eastern Ohio (about 1.5 hours from Alliance). If all the stars align and UST faces Mount in Alliance for a semifinal matchup, we gathered the wife's permission for me to fly out and spend the weekend with him and attend the game. Here's hoping. There's a few (ok, maybe just a couple or maybe just MUC57) classy Mount Union posters on here that I'd love to meet and share a beer with.  :) ;)

Or maybe, just maybe, you get to have the Catholics of NE Ohio (and Chicago) make a trek up to the Twin Cities for a JCU-UST Match-up.

While a long way to go before I can even plan a potential semi-final run, I would love the chance to play SJU or UST sometime in the playoff's!

I would love that! Get your boys to run the table and we'll see what we can do about that. I'm happy to lower myself to drink a beer with somebody from a lesser Catholic school. I've done it with the St John's folks in the past ;)

Craft_Beermeister

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: miac952 on October 08, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

This is rich coming on the cusp of a Mount 63-7 win. Not much can be done when there is a 5TH STRING rb going off tackle. Take your shots with Glen, but this isn't one of them. No different than countless Mount examples of an overmatched opponent getting rolled by 4th and 5th stringers with simple running plays.

The unwritten rules work differently when it involves somebody that you've already determined you don't like.

I'm just glad we can shift a bit of banter to the OAC board and keep the MIAC a bit cleaner to recognize Gagliardi's legacy... at least for a bit, I'm sure the rhetoric will ramp up as the week goes on. I had a buddy in town this weekend that lives in eastern Ohio (about 1.5 hours from Alliance). If all the stars align and UST faces Mount in Alliance for a semifinal matchup, we gathered the wife's permission for me to fly out and spend the weekend with him and attend the game. Here's hoping. There's a few (ok, maybe just a couple or maybe just MUC57) classy Mount Union posters on here that I'd love to meet and share a beer with.  :) ;)

Damn everyone loves MUC57 even though he is old and gets mixed up and I forget things!   But he does root for every team except when they are playing UMU.

Evergreen14

Just want to point out I am speculating the current top four ranked teams finish unbeaten. Do you see UMHB and St. Thomas on one side of the bracket and thus could potentially meet in the semifinals in Belton, and Brockport and Mount Union on the other side of the bracket and meeting in the semifinals in Alliance? Pat, your thoughts?

Seems like, and I am assuming here, the committee may not want another UMHB-Brockport semifinal. Travel from Brockport is closest to Alliance. Again, thoughts for debate.