FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Desertraider]

As a grad TA at Akron we used to refer to it as "Did your check Clear" University. Boy some of those undergrads. Wow.

[WRMUalum13]

I always thought BGSTD was a funny one as well

[Desertraider]

I still have a paper I hand out, name removed, from then to serve as an example what not to do. It has been my example since 2002.

[Desertraider]

I always thought BGSTD was a funny one as well

That is funny! I always heard it as UTstd.

[jknezek]

There are more than a few schools around that I've called "Fog a Check U". Such is the nature of having way more Universities and Colleges than we need in this country and the focus we've put on having a degree, any degree. Jobs that used to require a h.s. degree now require a bachelors. Not because the job changed, but because their are so many applicants with pieces of paper. This has been going on for 40 years and it is the only thing keeping many, many schools afloat.

[HScoach]

There are more than a few schools around that I've called "Fog a Check U". Such is the nature of having way more Universities and Colleges than we need in this country and the focus we've put on having a degree, any degree. Jobs that used to require a h.s. degree now require a bachelors. Not because the job changed, but because their are so many applicants with pieces of paper. This has been going on for 40 years and it is the only thing keeping many, many schools afloat.

I agree 100%.  A high school degree to my parents carries the same weight as the college degree my kids will have.  Quite sad actually.

[HScoach]

Getting back to the discussion spearheaded by Purple's undying support of all things Fulford, I offer the following. 


Disclaimer:  I fully understand that statistics only show a portion of the real story but in this case I believe they're reasonably appropriate measure as Fulford's live performances actually looked similar or worse than the stat line. 


It's logical that a QB's and an offense's production as a whole would drop a bit against the better teams, but in 2018 it's been shocking the difference between Fulford's performance against the pretty good teams, let alone the cream of the crop.  His stats, especially the passing efficiency ranking, are completely built on the back of drilling crappy OAC defenses.  When he played against a decent to good defense he was not good.

We all look back at his poor performance against JCU as more of a statement of JCU's great defense than it is about Fulford.  Yes, JCU has a good defense but it's not nationally merited. 
  John Carroll:
   Total defense rank:  24th (266 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 56th (108.7)
   Passing yds allowed: 117th (198.8 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  29th (15.4 pts)

So against a passing defense that is either 56th or 117th depending on the measure, Fulford and the offense finished with:
   Passing:  15 of 38 / 153 yds / 1 TD / 0 INT
   Rushing:  16 for 60 yds
   3rd down:  4 of 16
   4th down:  0 of 1
   Total yards:  286

I firmly believe that John Carroll is the only OAC team that plays any defense outside of Mount Union.  However if you believe this is overly critical and I'm discrediting the rest of the OAC, I took a look at the other OAC teams with a non-losing record as Fulford played well in every regular season game except JCU.  FYI, I didn't waste the time looking up Wilmington, Capital, etc as we all know they're horrible. 

Fulford put up big stats against the other "good" OAC teams like B-W, Marietta, Ohio Northern and Heidelberg but those teams all have poor defenses.
   Baldwin Wallace:
   Total defense rank:  130th (366.4 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 163rd (134.9)
   Passing yds allowed: 204th (242.3 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  116th (26.1 pts)

  Marietta:
   Total defense rank:  211th (431.3 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 178th (137.2)
   Passing yds allowed: 222nd (253.6 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  177th (31.8 pts)

   Ohio Northern:
   Total defense rank:  213th (435.6 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 219th (151.4)
   Passing yds allowed: 237th (265.2 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  195th (34.4 pts)

   Heidelberg:
   Total defense rank:  178th (401.7 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 153rd (132.7)
   Passing yds allowed: 177th (230.6 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  149th (28.8 pts)

The best of this bunch is Heidelberg at 153rd/177th against the pass and when was the last time anyone thought Heidelberg played defense?  In the 1970's?  So again, Fulford put up big numbers against defenses that are near the bottom of D3.


Now moving to the playoffs which has NOT been a murders row of national quality defenses, Fulford has not played well and looks much more like the QB we saw earlier against JCU.   I'll give him a pass against Centre given the rolled ankle as well Centre being completely overwhelmed and as a result Fulford didn't need to do anything.   I've included that game below for reference only: 

   Centre:
   Total defense rank:  101st (345.8 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 31st (102.6)
   Passing yds allowed: 54th (175.4 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  70th (20.6 pts)

Fulford passed 5 of 10 / 85 yds / 2 TD / 0 INT and rushed 0 times.  Again, ignored due to returning from injury and non-competitive game.


It's the next 2 playoff games that have garnered the most attention and for good reason.   

   Muhlenberg:
   Total defense rank:  31st (279 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 49th (106.8)
   Passing yds allowed: 91st (190.7 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  39th (16.8 pts)

   Fulford:
   Passing:  10 of 23 / 61 yds / 1 TD / 1 INT
   Rushing:   4 for 14 yds

   Mount offense:
   3rd down:  5 of 14
   4th down:  2 of 2
   Total yards:  322


   John Hopkins:
   Total defense rank:  54th (306 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 43rd (106.1)
   Passing yds allowed: 95th (191.7 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  31st (15.6 pts)

   Fulford:
   Passing:  12 of 23 / 210 yds / 2 TD / 3 INT
   Rushing:   6 for 51 yds

   Mount offense:
   3rd down: 5 of 14
   4th down:  0 of 0
   Total yards:  375


In the last 2 playoff games against defenses 43rd and 49th in pass efficiency and 91st and 95th in passing yards, Fulford has went a combined 22 of 46 for 271 yds with 3 TD's and 4 INT's.  And watching it live it looked every bit that bad or worse.  Especially against JHU where the INT's were more about poor reads and/or throws instead of great defensive plays or tipped balls.

Riddle me this PURPLE, based on his performance this entire season against any team with a pulse, how do you expect Fulford to play against an MHB defense that ranks like this?
   Mary Hardin Baylor:
   Total defense rank:  3rd (213.6 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank:  1st (82.7)
   Passing yds allowed: 3rd (133.1 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  1st (7.9 pts)


Could he play out of his mind?  Sure.  I hope he does but I'm not banking on it. 

Can Mount win?  Absolutely!  But I'm not expecting it to be because a Mount offense that has struggled all season against decent defenses is all of a sudden going to light up MHB.  Mount's most likely recipe to winning on Friday is the same as last year's Stagg and JHU last week.  The defense better play lights out!

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Great Analysis HSCoach!  Appreciate it.

[Desertraider]

I think mount runs multiple QBs.  Fulford,  burkes,  Petro, keeney, hill , ruth, Herrington...ok maybe a few too many there but you get the idea.

[joelmama]

Getting back to the discussion spearheaded by Purple's undying support of all things Fulford, I offer the following. 


Disclaimer:  I fully understand that statistics only show a portion of the real story but in this case I believe they're reasonably appropriate measure as Fulford's live performances actually looked similar or worse than the stat line. 


It's logical that a QB's and an offense's production as a whole would drop a bit against the better teams, but in 2018 it's been shocking the difference between Fulford's performance against the pretty good teams, let alone the cream of the crop.  His stats, especially the passing efficiency ranking, are completely built on the back of drilling crappy OAC defenses.  When he played against a decent to good defense he was not good.

We all look back at his poor performance against JCU as more of a statement of JCU's great defense than it is about Fulford.  Yes, JCU has a good defense but it's not nationally merited. 
  John Carroll:
   Total defense rank:  24th (266 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 56th (108.7)
   Passing yds allowed: 117th (198.8 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  29th (15.4 pts)

So against a passing defense that is either 56th or 117th depending on the measure, Fulford and the offense finished with:
   Passing:  15 of 38 / 153 yds / 1 TD / 0 INT
   Rushing:  16 for 60 yds
   3rd down:  4 of 16
   4th down:  0 of 1
   Total yards:  286

So the run game is likewise stifled.  The lack of a run game doesn't help any quarterback.

[wally_wabash]

Tree:

Getting back to the discussion spearheaded by Purple's undying support of all things Fulford, I offer the following. 


Disclaimer:  I fully understand that statistics only show a portion of the real story but in this case I believe they're reasonably appropriate measure as Fulford's live performances actually looked similar or worse than the stat line. 


It's logical that a QB's and an offense's production as a whole would drop a bit against the better teams, but in 2018 it's been shocking the difference between Fulford's performance against the pretty good teams, let alone the cream of the crop.  His stats, especially the passing efficiency ranking, are completely built on the back of drilling crappy OAC defenses.  When he played against a decent to good defense he was not good.

We all look back at his poor performance against JCU as more of a statement of JCU's great defense than it is about Fulford.  Yes, JCU has a good defense but it's not nationally merited. 
  John Carroll:
   Total defense rank:  24th (266 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 56th (108.7)
   Passing yds allowed: 117th (198.8 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  29th (15.4 pts)

So against a passing defense that is either 56th or 117th depending on the measure, Fulford and the offense finished with:
   Passing:  15 of 38 / 153 yds / 1 TD / 0 INT
   Rushing:  16 for 60 yds
   3rd down:  4 of 16
   4th down:  0 of 1
   Total yards:  286

So the run game is likewise stifled.  The lack of a run game doesn't help any quarterback.

Forest:

Getting back to the discussion spearheaded by Purple's undying support of all things Fulford, I offer the following. 


Disclaimer:  I fully understand that statistics only show a portion of the real story but in this case I believe they're reasonably appropriate measure as Fulford's live performances actually looked similar or worse than the stat line. 


It's logical that a QB's and an offense's production as a whole would drop a bit against the better teams, but in 2018 it's been shocking the difference between Fulford's performance against the pretty good teams, let alone the cream of the crop.  His stats, especially the passing efficiency ranking, are completely built on the back of drilling crappy OAC defenses.  When he played against a decent to good defense he was not good.

We all look back at his poor performance against JCU as more of a statement of JCU's great defense than it is about Fulford.  Yes, JCU has a good defense but it's not nationally merited. 
  John Carroll:
   Total defense rank:  24th (266 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 56th (108.7)
   Passing yds allowed: 117th (198.8 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  29th (15.4 pts)

So against a passing defense that is either 56th or 117th depending on the measure, Fulford and the offense finished with:
   Passing:  15 of 38 / 153 yds / 1 TD / 0 INT
   Rushing:  16 for 60 yds
   3rd down:  4 of 16
   4th down:  0 of 1
   Total yards:  286

I firmly believe that John Carroll is the only OAC team that plays any defense outside of Mount Union.  However if you believe this is overly critical and I'm discrediting the rest of the OAC, I took a look at the other OAC teams with a non-losing record as Fulford played well in every regular season game except JCU.  FYI, I didn't waste the time looking up Wilmington, Capital, etc as we all know they're horrible. 

Fulford put up big stats against the other "good" OAC teams like B-W, Marietta, Ohio Northern and Heidelberg but those teams all have poor defenses.
   Baldwin Wallace:
   Total defense rank:  130th (366.4 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 163rd (134.9)
   Passing yds allowed: 204th (242.3 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  116th (26.1 pts)

  Marietta:
   Total defense rank:  211th (431.3 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 178th (137.2)
   Passing yds allowed: 222nd (253.6 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  177th (31.8 pts)

   Ohio Northern:
   Total defense rank:  213th (435.6 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 219th (151.4)
   Passing yds allowed: 237th (265.2 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  195th (34.4 pts)

   Heidelberg:
   Total defense rank:  178th (401.7 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 153rd (132.7)
   Passing yds allowed: 177th (230.6 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  149th (28.8 pts)

The best of this bunch is Heidelberg at 153rd/177th against the pass and when was the last time anyone thought Heidelberg played defense?  In the 1970's?  So again, Fulford put up big numbers against defenses that are near the bottom of D3.


Now moving to the playoffs which has NOT been a murders row of national quality defenses, Fulford has not played well and looks much more like the QB we saw earlier against JCU.   I'll give him a pass against Centre given the rolled ankle as well Centre being completely overwhelmed and as a result Fulford didn't need to do anything.   I've included that game below for reference only: 

   Centre:
   Total defense rank:  101st (345.8 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 31st (102.6)
   Passing yds allowed: 54th (175.4 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  70th (20.6 pts)

Fulford passed 5 of 10 / 85 yds / 2 TD / 0 INT and rushed 0 times.  Again, ignored due to returning from injury and non-competitive game.


It's the next 2 playoff games that have garnered the most attention and for good reason.   

   Muhlenberg:
   Total defense rank:  31st (279 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 49th (106.8)
   Passing yds allowed: 91st (190.7 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  39th (16.8 pts)

   Fulford:
   Passing:  10 of 23 / 61 yds / 1 TD / 1 INT
   Rushing:   4 for 14 yds

   Mount offense:
   3rd down:  5 of 14
   4th down:  2 of 2
   Total yards:  322


   John Hopkins:
   Total defense rank:  54th (306 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank: 43rd (106.1)
   Passing yds allowed: 95th (191.7 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  31st (15.6 pts)

   Fulford:
   Passing:  12 of 23 / 210 yds / 2 TD / 3 INT
   Rushing:   6 for 51 yds

   Mount offense:
   3rd down: 5 of 14
   4th down:  0 of 0
   Total yards:  375


In the last 2 playoff games against defenses 43rd and 49th in pass efficiency and 91st and 95th in passing yards, Fulford has went a combined 22 of 46 for 271 yds with 3 TD's and 4 INT's.  And watching it live it looked every bit that bad or worse.  Especially against JHU where the INT's were more about poor reads and/or throws instead of great defensive plays or tipped balls.

Riddle me this PURPLE, based on his performance this entire season against any team with a pulse, how do you expect Fulford to play against an MHB defense that ranks like this?
   Mary Hardin Baylor:
   Total defense rank:  3rd (213.6 yds)
   Team passing eff. defense rank:  1st (82.7)
   Passing yds allowed: 3rd (133.1 yds)
   Scoring defense rank:  1st (7.9 pts)


Could he play out of his mind?  Sure.  I hope he does but I'm not banking on it. 

Can Mount win?  Absolutely!  But I'm not expecting it to be because a Mount offense that has struggled all season against decent defenses is all of a sudden going to light up MHB.  Mount's most likely recipe to winning on Friday is the same as last year's Stagg and JHU last week.  The defense better play lights out!

[WRMUalum13]

There are more than a few schools around that I've called "Fog a Check U". Such is the nature of having way more Universities and Colleges than we need in this country and the focus we've put on having a degree, any degree. Jobs that used to require a h.s. degree now require a bachelors. Not because the job changed, but because their are so many applicants with pieces of paper. This has been going on for 40 years and it is the only thing keeping many, many schools afloat.

I agree 100%.  A high school degree to my parents carries the same weight as the college degree my kids will have.  Quite sad actually.

Especially when you think of how expensive college degrees have become.

[Dr. Acula]

There are more than a few schools around that I've called "Fog a Check U". Such is the nature of having way more Universities and Colleges than we need in this country and the focus we've put on having a degree, any degree. Jobs that used to require a h.s. degree now require a bachelors. Not because the job changed, but because their are so many applicants with pieces of paper. This has been going on for 40 years and it is the only thing keeping many, many schools afloat.

I agree 100%.  A high school degree to my parents carries the same weight as the college degree my kids will have.  Quite sad actually.

Especially when you think of how expensive college degrees have become.

Exactly.  If I had a high school age kid I would be pushing them hard to look into a skilled trade.  Electricians, plumbers, welders, etc. are in high demand as is and that shortage is only increasing.  Good pay, no college debt, opportunity to own your own business if you want.   

[Desertraider]

No. College should be mandatory. I didn't get a PhD so I could weld.   I say join the military first. Spend a couple years overseas.

[Dr. Acula]

I just noticed on the NCAC thread that Raeburn was let go by SSU on Friday.  They're moving down to D2 next year too.