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Quote from: desertraider on September 08, 2019, 07:38:18 AM
I hate the 4-3. WR were open for the Engineers and a better QB would have hit them. Mount did not get any pressure on QB - no sacks from starters (when was the last time that happened). The new DBs did ok but couldn't lock up coverage to give the LBs and DL time to pressure. Alot of TFLs but the D didn't seem as fast or dominant to me. What is reason for 4-3 again?

The O had me worried in 1st QTR. Fulford either went to JHill or a check down. No attempts to another WR, he wasn't even looking at them. Changed on the TD drive in late 2nd when he spread it around a bit. The worst part?? The guys calling the game. Yes, Mount is good, has a history, has some guys that went to NFL BUT -
No - Mount has never had an OL drafted in first round
No - Mount has never, that i know of, guys who chose Mount over scholarships from D1 schools (maybe Campbell 20 years ago)
No - Mount doesnt have D1 guys who transfer and play right away - most sit a year or 2.

Week 1 grade - B- to B


Actually mounts starting safety mulhauser, who just transferred this off-season, I think that's his name , was a transfer from FCS Robert Morris where he was at least on partial scholarship from what I've read, but those guys are few and far between.

We do tend to get guys who choose Mount over being a preferred walk on at d1 programs

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

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Quote from: WRMUalum13 on September 08, 2019, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: desertraider on September 08, 2019, 07:38:18 AM
I hate the 4-3. WR were open for the Engineers and a better QB would have hit them. Mount did not get any pressure on QB - no sacks from starters (when was the last time that happened). The new DBs did ok but couldn't lock up coverage to give the LBs and DL time to pressure. Alot of TFLs but the D didn't seem as fast or dominant to me. What is reason for 4-3 again?

The O had me worried in 1st QTR. Fulford either went to JHill or a check down. No attempts to another WR, he wasn't even looking at them. Changed on the TD drive in late 2nd when he spread it around a bit. The worst part?? The guys calling the game. Yes, Mount is good, has a history, has some guys that went to NFL BUT -
No - Mount has never had an OL drafted in first round
No - Mount has never, that i know of, guys who chose Mount over scholarships from D1 schools (maybe Campbell 20 years ago)
No - Mount doesnt have D1 guys who transfer and play right away - most sit a year or 2.

Week 1 grade - B- to B


Actually mounts starting safety mulhauser, who just transferred this off-season, I think that's his name , was a transfer from FCS Robert Morris where he was at least on partial scholarship from what I've read, but those guys are few and far between.

We do tend to get guys who choose Mount over being a preferred walk on at d1 programs

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WRMUalum13

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on September 08, 2019, 06:40:44 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on September 08, 2019, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: desertraider on September 08, 2019, 07:38:18 AM
I hate the 4-3. WR were open for the Engineers and a better QB would have hit them. Mount did not get any pressure on QB - no sacks from starters (when was the last time that happened). The new DBs did ok but couldn't lock up coverage to give the LBs and DL time to pressure. Alot of TFLs but the D didn't seem as fast or dominant to me. What is reason for 4-3 again?

The O had me worried in 1st QTR. Fulford either went to JHill or a check down. No attempts to another WR, he wasn't even looking at them. Changed on the TD drive in late 2nd when he spread it around a bit. The worst part?? The guys calling the game. Yes, Mount is good, has a history, has some guys that went to NFL BUT -
No - Mount has never had an OL drafted in first round
No - Mount has never, that i know of, guys who chose Mount over scholarships from D1 schools (maybe Campbell 20 years ago)
No - Mount doesnt have D1 guys who transfer and play right away - most sit a year or 2.

Week 1 grade - B- to B


Actually mounts starting safety mulhauser, who just transferred this off-season, I think that's his name , was a transfer from FCS Robert Morris where he was at least on partial scholarship from what I've read, but those guys are few and far between.

We do tend to get guys who choose Mount over being a preferred walk on at d1 programs

Jon Muehlbauer

Thanks lol I was close at least

Ereraider

He was the DB beaten on the long pass

WRMUalum13

Quote from: Ereraider on September 08, 2019, 07:13:30 PM
He was the DB beaten on the long pass

I didn't say he was awesome, just that he was a d1 guy who started immediately

But he's definitely the exception not the rule

Dr. Acula

Belated thoughts after watching the game...

Personally, I loved the way the offense came out in the 1st.  Their first two drives were 2 touchdowns each under 50 seconds and totaling all of 5 plays.  They were doing whatever they wanted, especially running the ball, all game.  I thought the O line played well.  Petro had some massive lanes to run through.  I also noticed reviewing the roster that 3 of the 5 OL starters are 300 lbs.  It's been a while since they've had that kind of beef up front.

Fulford will certainly need to spread the ball around, but it was also week 1 with 2 new starters at WR.  RHIT had no prayer of covering Hill and Fulford obviously has a rapport with him so I was fine with him honing in on his guy early on.  Stick with your comfort zone early and then expand.  I really liked getting both Petro and Garcia involved in the passing game too.  Once upon a time that was used so effectively as a safety valve with Moore and Pugh.  Garcia did a nice job running and catching.  If he can emerge as a Justin Wray-type second back that'd be a fun wrinkle.

I think the single most important thing from this game was Braxton Plunk.  Obviously it's way too early to judge, but that looked like a Mount QB slinging the ball.  The one that raised my eyebrow was the 3rd and 8 throw on the sideline to Ruby.  11 yd out and that thing had some smoke on it.  He doesn't look like a burner straight line, but he definitely looked athletic moving around and scrambling.  The bottom line is after last season there was legit concern about if Fulford went down with an injury.  I feel much better about the backup QB today.

Defensively I was curious about the 4-3 thing too.  I'm no X's and O's guy so I don't know if the scheme was a true 4-3 or not.  The 3rd LB is Fisette who is a DB so I assumed it was still similar to the old 4-2-5 with Fisette being a hybrid?  I expected some hiccups especially in the secondary.  You have 4 new starters back there including 2 who are brand new to the schemes period (a transfer and a guy flipping over from WR).  It was too bad to see Griffin go down early.  Hopefully he is okay.  The DL as always did fine against the run, but I agree with whoever mentioned the less than stellar pass rush.  I was hoping from more there from a veteran group.

Of the new guys I thought Bradley played well at CB, Reed flashed some nice athleticism at WR on his TD and I liked Parker as the 4th(?) RB.  And yes, I realize how spoiled Mount fan it is to be talking about the 4th RB in week 1. 

I watched the BW game too.  They'll definitely be a tougher test than RHIT, but they don't have the horses to make this a close game IMO.  I don't like the front loaded schedule, but if it has to be front loaded this is the perfect progression to ramp up for JCU.  Plus maybe it's good to catch JCU earlier on with a new QB.  Plenty to work on for the Raiders the next couple of weeks, but if we're giving grades I would give the opener a B+. 

raiderpa

The fact that Plunk comes in as a frosh and wins the backup QB job is very impressive and promising.I thought last year's back up was returning, but did not see him on the roster.  With LK coaching Plunk, he will be ready anytime to play and contribute...

mucfan76

The new freshman qb could one of the reasons LK is back with the quarterbacks.

Dr. Acula

Quote from: raiderpa on September 09, 2019, 12:11:03 PM
The fact that Plunk comes in as a frosh and wins the backup QB job is very impressive and promising.I thought last year's back up was returning, but did not see him on the roster.  With LK coaching Plunk, he will be ready anytime to play and contribute...

Keeney is still there.  He was not on the travel roster as they took sophomore Kyle Moore as the 3rd QB.  I think Moore was the #3 QB last year as well.

skunks_sidekick

Great to hear about the new backup.  I think it was a very solid (boy aren't we spoiled) start overall for the Raiders.  We now have two weeks to get healthy, and work on any weaknesses prior to the B-W game.  This offense is so multi-faceted with stacks of talent that I really think defensive improvement is the key to post season success as we get into the playoffs.  And yes, I expect Mount to be there (shocking).   8-)

raiderpa

You have to think with the new 4 front alignment there will be growing pains as far as missed assignments, assignments that may be different than the previous defensive scheme.  The LB's/DB's have been playing a different set up for two or three years, so experience should clean up anything that bit them Saturday.
It was shocking, as a spoiled Mount fan, to see the uncharacteristic deep pass and long run that each resulted in a score for RHIT. 

WRMUalum13

Quote from: raiderpa on September 09, 2019, 03:24:15 PM
You have to think with the new 4 front alignment there will be growing pains as far as missed assignments, assignments that may be different than the previous defensive scheme.  The LB's/DB's have been playing a different set up for two or three years, so experience should clean up anything that bit them Saturday.
It was shocking, as a spoiled Mount fan, to see the uncharacteristic deep pass and long run that each resulted in a score for RHIT.

Missed assignments in the secondary was an issue I noticed last year too.  I remember a couple in the stagg bowl and playoff games that surprised me with such an experienced group. I think our DBs get a bit spoiled since they are usually much faster than the WRs they face. Seems like the trend last year was that they'd cheat up (knowing they had the speed to recover) and anticipate and come up with a ton of big plays, but on the flipside the occasional blown coverage. I'd rather see less INTs with fewer wide open deep passes, hopefully they'll address this after getting exposed a little against RHIT

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: mucfan76 on September 09, 2019, 12:49:19 PM
The new freshman qb could one of the reasons LK is back with the quarterbacks.

Did LK fly to Florida to personally recruit him like he did for Poorman?

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