FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[s e 76]

63  6  how often did they get beat

[hsbsballcoach7]

Since the cameras were so bad, died anyone know what happened on the missed extra point attempts? Snap, hold or kick? I hope this isn't a trend and they get it figured out.
Btw, I always try to give the college kids credit when they're announcing the games (I did the PA for basketball when I was in college and know it's not easy), but it was hard to listen and watch today. With the camera moving or focusing on the wrong person, them talking over each other constantly, not knowing their own players names (let alone Mounts), it was hard to take such a sloppy game.

It's ironic that there was a discussion on here last week about running up the score... Well John Carroll 90-0 over Capital looks pretty bad doesn't it? If you look deeper though, JCU didn't even throw for 150 yards and ran the ball over 10 ypc. Can you blame them? I don't, Capital just seemed overmatched.

[Mr. Ypsi]

The OAC bottom-feeders have always been very bad, but my sense is that Cap this year may be worse than Wilma, et.al., have EVER been.  For a good road team, I'm not sure how you AVOID beating Cap by 90 - you didn't bring the 4th team!  To me, at least, deliberately running out of bounds, taking a knee, etc., can be even more insulting than scoring again.

[reality check]

90?  That guy that hates Mount Union (forgot his name thankfully) will have to turn his ire towards a different OAC school after that shellacking. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

90?  That guy that hates Mount Union (forgot his name thankfully) will have to turn his ire towards a different OAC school after that shellacking.

Gregg Easterbrook.  Sorry to bring back bad memories!   (But those who forget history are doomed to repeat it - don't want you to have to relive Easterbrook! )

[Dr. Acula]

Since the cameras were so bad, died anyone know what happened on the missed extra point attempts? Snap, hold or kick? I hope this isn't a trend and they get it figured out.

I was at the office so I was listening to Sam and TJ.  I didn't hear the first miss, but the second one was a bad snap that the holder had to corral and it screwed up the timing.  Burkes was out today as on that attempt I'm pretty sure Sam said Barnett (the starting K) was holding and Reghetti (the other K) was kicking.

[archgemini24]

63  6  how often did they get beat

The drive in which they scored was effectively all passes, and there was a 3rd-and-long conversion as well as a converted 4th-and-15 where somehow the receiver got behind everyone for that 30-yard TD. There were also a bunch of drops by the Wilmington receivers rather than passes defensed. Getting beat in obvious passing situations is disconcerning, but I am probably overthinking it. From what I watched (and this is becoming a consistent refrain over the past couple years), if the pass rush (however it is designed) does not get heavy pressure to force bad passes, the DBs are less than stellar.

[s e 76]

other teams actually have players who can make plays

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Am I the only one confused by s e 76's posts?

[jam40jeff]

It's ironic that there was a discussion on here last week about running up the score... Well John Carroll 90-0 over Capital looks pretty bad doesn't it? If you look deeper though, JCU didn't even throw for 150 yards and ran the ball over 10 ypc. Can you blame them? I don't, Capital just seemed overmatched.

The part that stood out to me (and I'm not saying that it necessarily means they ran up the score intentionally) was that they scored 28 in the first half and 62 in the second half.

[Pat Coleman]

Looks like Capital was just plain incapable of holding onto the ball in the second half:

Capital   3   14:05   01:43   JCU03   3   5   PUNT
Capital   3   10:48   01:23   JCU19   4   -15   DOWNS (this looks like a bad snap on a punt)
Capital   3   09:20   00:54   JCU25   3   1   PUNT
Capital   3   07:11   01:21   JCU27   3   3   PUNT
Capital   3   04:46   02:28   JCU12   3   7   PUNT
Capital   4   14:50   02:08   JCU27   4   12   INT
Capital   4   12:42   01:53   JCU18   3   2   PUNT
Capital   4   10:46   00:46   JCU12   2   29   FUMB
Capital   4   05:32   01:40   JCU26   3   0   PUNT
Capital   4   03:29   02:34   JCU26   3   5   PUNT

[Dr. Acula]

Watching Cap these days it's hard to believe at one point that was a top 10 program.  Their offense is abysmal.  When is the last time they had a good QB?
Assmann?  That was a decade ago.  Thankfully they're in Alliance Saturday.  VK is going to need to dress about 170 guys to make sure he has enough subs for that one because it's gonna be ugly.   

[e_lee]

As a Cap alum/former player under Jim Collins, yesterday is embarrassing.  Taking a look at stats, it seems JCU did their part as far as not passing.  But as mentioned earlier when on the road you can can only unload benches so much.

If Cap is going to try to be an Oberlin, Dennison, Amherst, Kenyon et al. they need to get in a conference with them. 

[formerd3db]

As a Cap alum/former player under Jim Collins, yesterday is embarrassing.  Taking a look at stats, it seems JCU did their part as far as not passing.  But as mentioned earlier when on the road you can can only unload benches so much.

If Cap is going to try to be an Oberlin, Dennison, Amherst, Kenyon et al. they need to get in a conference with them.

e_lee:

Haven't seen you posting much recently, however, glad to see you back.

So, what is your assessment as to why the current dismal status of your alma mater's football program?  Multiple reasons?

[Desertraider]

As a Cap alum/former player under Jim Collins, yesterday is embarrassing.  Taking a look at stats, it seems JCU did their part as far as not passing.  But as mentioned earlier when on the road you can can only unload benches so much.

If Cap is going to try to be an Oberlin, Dennison, Amherst, Kenyon et al. they need to get in a conference with them.

It's starting to look like CAP has decided to be Earlham.

The cameras at Wilma were dreadful. The Wilma students calling the game were almost as bad - but that has to be really tough. They kept mentioning how many points Mount scored last week against OTT in 1st qtr - "they scored 28 in 1st last week and 14 this week, so no way they are putting up those numbers" (really?

My favorite was before 3rd started. The one kid says Wilma needs 6 unanswered scores to take the game over. Then he asks the other "do you thinks a comeback is possible?" The other kids says "its feasible. It's entirely possible" - swear to god my water nearly hit the TV. Really?? It's entirely possible to score 6 unanswered TDs against Mount....in the 2nd half...for Wilma? You have scored 3 times against Mount since 2012! But 6 in the second half is entirely possible? Funny stuff.

On UMHB - it sucks. It really does - but it is a rule. The type of car doesn't matter. The rule doesn't say it can't be a porsche, or a BMW, but it can be a Gremlin. It simply says you can't provide it. Period. Have others done it and gotten away with it? Sure. Does D1 do worse? Sure. But UMHB got caught. It is the rule. If it was a one time "hey take my car and go visit your mom in the hospital" then I could see it as different. But the kid used it for 18 months? Don't know the situation but the rule was broken. My question is: no postseason ban, but 2 years probation? What does probation mean? Can Dean Wormer kick them off campus? Or is that only if they are on double-secret probation?