FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[MUC57]

Blitz vs.  cover....wouldn't have made a difference. That's my point.

In the interest of just talking football and not pointing fingers at certain coaches, I do think it's an interesting thought process that you're referencing here USee. It seems your point is that because other teams weren't successful in blitzing NCC, the MT defensive staff decided they shouldn't do it either (or at least not very often). I mentioned the UWO game vs MT with this very concept in mind. I can only assume the UWO staff feared blitzing MT because of the number of excellent receivers they had. They chose to drop a bunch into coverage. And they got whipped in the second half.
The question I have for a coach is: if you're not having any success playing the D you thought best, what do you have to lose by switching it up?
Heck I'd take it a step further in MT's case and ask the question, why would you base your defensive approach on what other teams had success with given MT has better/likely faster athletes than almost any other team? 
It's all coaching philosophy I guess.

emma17

I usually agree with your posts and I certainly do on this one. I think USee is still having trouble with the fact that Wheaton got beat in the playoffs. He'll get over it.
Your 2nd paragraph is my thinking as well.
I think this game has been beaten up enough. On to the 2020 season.
You know me, emma17, here I go - Go Everybody!
Oh,  +K for ya. 

[USee]

 A lot goes into that idea. If you are going to blitz, you have to decide if you are in a blitz no matter what, or if you are going to check out of it against certain formations. You spend a considerable amount of practice time with this in mind. It could be they had a blitz package in place and NCC came out with formations they hadn't seen/practiced and you can't just draw it up on game day because you have to know who is covering whom and who are the ones blitzing. Blitz only works if you have a matchup you can win up front or you bring guys they can't block and aren't expecting. It's a two edged sword though. The defense has to cover guys long enough for the blitz to work. Finally, an effective run game can destroy blitz because you often blitz Linebackers and lose those guys in pursuit so if the RB runs off tackle and breaks the line of scrimmage, you have 1-3 less tacklers who are blitzing if he makes it past the line of scrimmage.

I don't know what Mt Union was thinking. But it could have been some or all of this. Run game gashing, formation problems to match up vs blitz, or just didn't think they could get an advantage. I do know it's not because they didn't think of it and some geniuses on here did.

[USee]

MUC57, your passive aggressive posts won't get to me. I invented that approach.

P.S. maybe you should change your name to MUC59-52?

[MUC57]

USee

How about MUC13-0? I'm trying to get past the NCC game.
I'm done on this game.   

[USee]

Your repeated posts about it are a dead giveaway.

[MRMIKESMITH]

Should Youngstown State go after Vince Kehres as head coach...

[WRMUalum13]

Should Youngstown State go after Vince Kehres as head coach...

YES! I'm a YSU fan And would love this, however our stupid fan base wants D1 assistants and Ytown connections.

[Dr. Acula]

Should Youngstown State go after Vince Kehres as head coach...

YES! I'm a YSU fan And would love this, however our stupid fan base wants D1 assistants and Ytown connections.

I mean, VK is technically a D1 assistant now...   

[reality check]

I don't get to post nearly as much as I used to (never thought I'd be "that" guy) but I can't really talk about it publicly anywhere else so I thought I'd post here. 

I've been coaching high school ball for 14 years now and have spent five of those years (including that last four consecutive) as a varsity offensive coordinator.  What we have lacked in size and speed we've also lacked in depth and athleticism yet we managed to win 2 of the last 3 region titles and I've managed to have a top ten offense offense in our division (about 50 teams) in the state over the time.  I think I do a decent job but there's always more to learn.

My HC just took a job at a school with better financial support, a larger student population and better facilities.  Logistically I cannot go with although that is what he wants and I wish I could make happen.  It's 45 minutes away from the school I work at and the opposite direction of my home.  Further adding to the complication, I'm in year twelve as an educator where I opened the high school that I have been teaching at.  All three programs (current football school, HC's new school and my workplace) are in the same region/conference. 

I am told I am the top choice to replace my HC at my current football school.  I have also been hounded for four consecutive offseasons to come back to be OC at the school I teach at.  My concern there is that I worked with the head coach there when we were both position coaches and there are definitely concerns over fit.  As a recently divorced father of three daughters, I am swimming in my own head over this decision and if there's one thing I hate as a coach, it's not having a plan mapped out and knowing what comes next.  I also serve as a varsity assistant basketball coach and jv boys volleyball coach at the school I teach at.  If I take the HC position where I coordinate, I most certainly would have to relinquish one or both of those duties which won't be easy as I've been coaching basketball for 12 seasons now and volleyball for 5. 

Sorry to ramble, I just can't talk about this on more overt social media platforms and guess I needed to vent or get it out there and read any thoughts or feedback.

[MUC57]

I don't get to post nearly as much as I used to (never thought I'd be "that" guy) but I can't really talk about it publicly anywhere else so I thought I'd post here. 

I've been coaching high school ball for 14 years now and have spent five of those years (including that last four consecutive) as a varsity offensive coordinator.  What we have lacked in size and speed we've also lacked in depth and athleticism yet we managed to win 2 of the last 3 region titles and I've managed to have a top ten offense offense in our division (about 50 teams) in the state over the time.  I think I do a decent job but there's always more to learn.

My HC just took a job at a school with better financial support, a larger student population and better facilities.  Logistically I cannot go with although that is what he wants and I wish I could make happen.  It's 45 minutes away from the school I work at and the opposite direction of my home.  Further adding to the complication, I'm in year twelve as an educator where I opened the high school that I have been teaching at.  All three programs (current football school, HC's new school and my workplace) are in the same region/conference. 

I am told I am the top choice to replace my HC at my current football school.  I have also been hounded for four consecutive offseasons to come back to be OC at the school I teach at.  My concern there is that I worked with the head coach there when we were both position coaches and there are definitely concerns over fit.  As a recently divorced father of three daughters, I am swimming in my own head over this decision and if there's one thing I hate as a coach, it's not having a plan mapped out and knowing what comes next.  I also serve as a varsity assistant basketball coach and jv boys volleyball coach at the school I teach at.  If I take the HC position where I coordinate, I most certainly would have to relinquish one or both of those duties which won't be easy as I've been coaching basketball for 12 seasons now and volleyball for 5. 

Sorry to ramble, I just can't talk about this on more overt social media platforms and guess I needed to vent or get it out there and read any thoughts or feedback.

reality check

Nice to hear from you - I think! Wow! You sure have lots of issues to deal with. Don't know you personally but, from what I have seen in your posts, you'll get it all sorted out.
Hey! You're lucky, and blessed, to have 3 daughters. Time helps in the healing process.
And, don't forget all your friends on d3football. Now that's scary!
Good luck and best to ya in 2020.   

Oh, and Go Polar Bears. 🏈

[jknezek]

I don't get to post nearly as much as I used to (never thought I'd be "that" guy) but I can't really talk about it publicly anywhere else so I thought I'd post here. 

I've been coaching high school ball for 14 years now and have spent five of those years (including that last four consecutive) as a varsity offensive coordinator.  What we have lacked in size and speed we've also lacked in depth and athleticism yet we managed to win 2 of the last 3 region titles and I've managed to have a top ten offense offense in our division (about 50 teams) in the state over the time.  I think I do a decent job but there's always more to learn.

My HC just took a job at a school with better financial support, a larger student population and better facilities.  Logistically I cannot go with although that is what he wants and I wish I could make happen.  It's 45 minutes away from the school I work at and the opposite direction of my home.  Further adding to the complication, I'm in year twelve as an educator where I opened the high school that I have been teaching at.  All three programs (current football school, HC's new school and my workplace) are in the same region/conference. 

I am told I am the top choice to replace my HC at my current football school.  I have also been hounded for four consecutive offseasons to come back to be OC at the school I teach at.  My concern there is that I worked with the head coach there when we were both position coaches and there are definitely concerns over fit.  As a recently divorced father of three daughters, I am swimming in my own head over this decision and if there's one thing I hate as a coach, it's not having a plan mapped out and knowing what comes next.  I also serve as a varsity assistant basketball coach and jv boys volleyball coach at the school I teach at.  If I take the HC position where I coordinate, I most certainly would have to relinquish one or both of those duties which won't be easy as I've been coaching basketball for 12 seasons now and volleyball for 5. 

Sorry to ramble, I just can't talk about this on more overt social media platforms and guess I needed to vent or get it out there and read any thoughts or feedback.

I've never been a paid coach, though I hold several U.S. Soccer licenses and probably could get a h.s. assistant or paid youth club job if I wanted. Juggling the time and my full-time job and family have always made it unrealistic to commit to soccer in that way. I have, however, assisted and amateur coached for many years. So here's my limited helpfulness advice, all of which I'm sure you know in your own heart and head but it helps to see sometimes in other words.

1) If you have concerns with getting along with the head coach... don't be an assistant for him. It's a miserable experience to not be on the same page with the boss. Full stop. Regardless of convenience, you can't coach effectively if you can't get on the same page with the boss and the team will know and suffer from it.

2) Being a head coach is triple the work, stress, and responsibility from being an assistant. If you aren't willing or able to handle all those factors, don't bother. Nothing good will come of it and there is nothing wrong with being an assistant if you have other things going on in your life. Head coach is an ambition, any good "coach" is a calling. On the other hand, being head coach is incredibly rewarding if you can handle the factors. You will be someone those young men will learn from, benefit from, and remember for the rest of their lives. Being a good head coach, which doesn't necessarily mean being a successful one, is one of the most amazing experiences anyone can have. It is one step short of being a parent.

3) Being an assistant with a head coach you get along with and have a beneficial relationship in both directions is a fantastic learning and working environment. When you are trusted and capable you are happiest at your work place. Conversely, long commuting sucks. Its stressful, wasteful, painful, and can literally turn your life into a grind. Regardless of how good your work environment is, commuting can turn it into a nightmare.

Best of luck in your decision. Never easy to weigh those opportunities and I hope it all works out for you.

[MUC57]

reality check

jknezek said it much better than I could. As you can see, we're all on your side.
Go get 'em! 

[formerd3db]

reality check:

jknezek and MUC both said it best.  They have brought up excellent considerations and areas of concern (the pros and cons regarding each choice.)  Of course, you and everyone here know that making this type of a decision in life such as you face (that we all face at various times in our lives) is never easy, regardless of what level anyone is in coaching.  IMO, those aspects you personally have to choose between right now as you have shared with us are just as important as those that faced by any college Division I coach (or for that matter, Division II or III).  Those of us who have coached at some point in our lives know what you are going through-we've been there and trying to make the best choice for yourself regarding your own career, your daughters, and the logistics issues are heavy choices and responsibilities.

I can't really add more than rc and MUC have offered, other than to say that I would encourage you to keep praying about it (I and I'm sure the others will keep praying for you as well.)  You will make the right decision.  Please keep us posted and all the best. 

[edward de vere]

What would be the best decision for the three daughters?

[MUC57]

What would be the best decision for the entire family?