FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Mr. Ypsi]

Hey, uh, let's stick to coronavirus or COVID-19, ok?

Totally agree with you, but at least this virus DID almost certainly arise in Wuhan.  The "Spanish flu" of 1918-19 (which killed far more people world-wide than WWI) almost certainly did NOT arise in Spain!  Soldiers were dying by the hundreds or thousands all around Europe, but wartime censorship prevented such news getting out.  Spain, being a neutral, was the first to report about the flu.  Hence the (unfair) name, which will probably endure forever.

Why?

Because it is pejorative.  While there is now a fair amount of evidence that China covered up the extent of the problem (and is still doing so), I know of no evidence that Wuhan did anything wrong.  Viruses can exist for MANY years in animal populations before mutating into something transmissible to humans.  Apparently it just happened to be in Wuhan, but it could have been elsewhere.

[skunks_sidekick]

"Wuhan Flu"..."China Flu"....."let's blame anyone/everyone but our pathetic reaction flu"?

Sorry Pat....I am done.

It looks like football will happen in the OAC this Fall, but at this point no one knows how that will look. 

Stay healthy and safe out there people!  My mom's facility has remained Covid-19 free, but she has been in lockdown and we haven't been able to visit.  She has dementia (early onset), and understands some days and others not.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

We just received the Summer Conditioning "Rules" for our County.

We start on July 1st.

Can NOT throw a ball in the month of July (unless we sanitize the ball after each player touches it).

Can NOT have more than 20 Athletes on Campus at any time.  I was planning on having station rotations (weightroom, practice field, track, etc.) so I guess that's not going to work.

A bit overcautious in my opinion.

We lost spring football and now can't throw a ball in the summer.  We are installing a new Offense and breaking in a new Sophomore QB.

I have a feeling I will need a lot of alcohol this fall if we are allowed to play.

[formerd3db]

We just received the Summer Conditioning "Rules" for our County.

We start on July 1st.

Can NOT throw a ball in the month of July (unless we sanitize the ball after each player touches it).

Can NOT have more than 20 Athletes on Campus at any time.  I was planning on having station rotations (weightroom, practice field, track, etc.) so I guess that's not going to work.

A bit overcautious in my opinion.

We lost spring football and now can't throw a ball in the summer.  We are installing a new Offense and breaking in a new Sophomore QB.

I have a feeling I will need a lot of alcohol this fall if we are allowed to play.

How many players do you have on your roster? If you have 60, then you could have three groups of the 20 players for a 1 hour or slightly longer sessions for each (would allow 2/2 hour for lifting and  1/2 for conditioning) starting at 8 or 8:30 am, you could be done by lunchtime. Obviously, it is not the ideal, desired plan, but given these current circumstances and mandates, IMO, something is better than nothing. Just a thought.

[formerd3db]

K &J's Dad:

I know understand your concerns and frustrations, but go over to the South Region on the Old Dominion conference board and read jkeneke's post from this am. This is comcernimg, so I'm not quite sure that the restrictions you  are facing are overkill.

If these scenarios start to appear in the next 4 weeks or do, I could see those who make the decisions end up cancelling the season, although I obvioysly hope that doesn't happen. We'll see what plays out. Anyway, good luck with whatever you end up decided ng and being able to do with your program for this early conditioning period.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I should be happy we get any time but Governor Desantis has opened up youth sports without any restrictions.

But the NFHS put out their recommendations so no HS district is willing to be less restrictive because of liability.

My guys can go to the park and throw together (which they are) but no coaches can be present.

[buddy34]

Gov. DeSantis also labors under the misperception that young people are seemingly immune. And Florida's aggressive reopening has led to a spike in rates and a plateauing of deaths. So there's that.

[emma17]

Gov. DeSantis also labors under the misperception that young people are seemingly immune. And Florida's aggressive reopening has led to a spike in rates and a plateauing of deaths. So there's that.

I doubt anybody believes young people are immune (as much as it fits your preferred narrative). However, logical people know the virus is most dangerous to the elderly/those with certain health conditions (many of which are controllable by behavior, but God forbid we should say such a thing).
It's not that hard, if you're in the vulnerable category, stay home until a great treatment / vaccine comes out. If you're not in the vulnerable category, play at your own risk.

[jknezek]

Gov. DeSantis also labors under the misperception that young people are seemingly immune. And Florida's aggressive reopening has led to a spike in rates and a plateauing of deaths. So there's that.

I doubt anybody believes young people are immune (as much as it fits your preferred narrative). However, logical people know the virus is most dangerous to the elderly/those with certain health conditions (many of which are controllable by behavior, but God forbid we should say such a thing).
It's not that hard, if you're in the vulnerable category, stay home until a great treatment / vaccine comes out. If you're not in the vulnerable category, play at your own risk.

Emma... I'd encourage you to read my post from yesterday a.m. in the ODAC board. It's not that simple as my family is finding out.

[emma17]

Thanks for sharing jknezek, I do hope your family fully recovers.

The situation your family is in, through no fault of their own, provides an opportunity for people to develop better ideas and protections. I don't see their situation as reason to shut a youth soccer program down (not that you are suggesting that). If we are all on the same page of very much wanting sport to open, then we use the moment to ask better questions as to what can we do to make it happen, knowing there will be spread, but still protect those most vulnerable.

I don't have all the answers, but can ask questions. One question is, how willing are those not in the vulnerable category to risk contracting COVID in exchange for an opening of sport? 

[buddy34]

that is the essential question.

as for my earlier comment, i apologize for being less precise than i should have been, but i am not pushing a 'narrative.' i'll just leave you with these links:

desantis' comments:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/10/ron-desantis/florida-governor-falsely-claims-novel-coronavirus-/

latest situation in florida:

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-coronavirus-single-day-high/32851685

who's being infected in higher numbers:

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/coronavirus/millennials-now-largest-group-of-positive-covid-19-cases-in-pinellas-county

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/coronavirus/0PA6S2u0/young-adults-teens-lead-leon-county-covid-19-cases

[jknezek]

Thanks for sharing jknezek, I do hope your family fully recovers.

The situation your family is in, through no fault of their own, provides an opportunity for people to develop better ideas and protections. I don't see their situation as reason to shut a youth soccer program down (not that you are suggesting that). If we are all on the same page of very much wanting sport to open, then we use the moment to ask better questions as to what can we do to make it happen, knowing there will be spread, but still protect those most vulnerable.

I don't have all the answers, but can ask questions. One question is, how willing are those not in the vulnerable category to risk contracting COVID in exchange for an opening of sport?

Thanks. I don't have the answers either. But, the question might also be phrased, "how willing are those in the not-very-vulnerable category to pass along the virus to those who are vulnerable, including close family, for the sake of playing sport?" 

I know my nephew's team has disbanded for the summer at least. I have no idea what their intended schedule was, but obviously nothing was going to happen for the next 3-4 weeks anyway as the virus runs its course and the recommendation is at least 2 negative tests before leaving strict quarantine. I wonder how many parents would be willing to rush back in 3 or 4 weeks? I know for my own kids, this would be the nail in the coffin for at least the Fall season.

Of course, my family is still doing non-contact taekwondo right now 3-4 days a week. So we have kept up our sport, with significant limitations including always being 6 feet apart and cleaning between classes. I also am unlikely to see my parents until sometime next year. My wife had tentative plans to see her parents late summer, but those are shot now. I did not attend a co-workers wife's funeral last week because many people in attendance would be older, haven't eaten out since March, and wear a mask whenever I go to a store. So I'm acutely aware that I put myself at risk for my sport and try very hard not to have contact with anyone who might be at risk. I have my doubts whether h.s. and college students will demonstrate the same awareness and restraint.

[ITH radio]

https://www.news-herald.com/sports/area-college-football-coches-bracing-for-season-unlike-any-other/article_a3f272c8-b09b-11ea-8e94-6b4c2ded88ab.html

[hsbsballcoach7]

https://www.news-herald.com/sports/area-college-football-coches-bracing-for-season-unlike-any-other/article_a3f272c8-b09b-11ea-8e94-6b4c2ded88ab.html

Playoffs being done by Thanksgiving makes sense. I've heard that some colleges are trying to get finals done by Thanksgiving because they don't want kids coming back from home for just a week or two. They might have to cut the regular season by a game or two (no bye weeks), then cut out a round of playoffs. Could that realistically work?

[buddy34]

they could also cut the playoff field in half and shave off a week. 32 teams is great, but for one unusual season there's no reason they couldn't cut it to 16