FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[wally_wabash]

27 conferences qualify automatically for the postseason, so (if we assume nearly everybody plays) I'm not sure how the championship committee would ever get the requisite approval for constricting the field to just 16 teams.  I think you'd have no championship before you had a championship that chopped out 1/3 of the automatic qualifiers.

[Ryan Stoppable]

27 conferences qualify automatically for the postseason, so (if we assume nearly everybody plays) I'm not sure how the championship committee would ever get the requisite approval for constricting the field to just 16 teams.  I think you'd have no championship before you had a championship that chopped out 1/3 of the automatic qualifiers.

I for one would rather they keep the regular season intact and get rid of the playoffs if they need to be done by Thanksgiving. If you had a 16 team playoff, the first round would have to be on Halloween to get it done by Thanksgiving and that would only leave 8 weeks for the regular season unless they started earlier.

Though of course, I say that as a fan of a team whose conference has never won a playoff game, lol.

[emma17]

that is the essential question.

as for my earlier comment, i apologize for being less precise than i should have been, but i am not pushing a 'narrative.' i'll just leave you with these links:

desantis' comments:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/10/ron-desantis/florida-governor-falsely-claims-novel-coronavirus-/

latest situation in florida:

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-coronavirus-single-day-high/32851685

who's being infected in higher numbers:

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/coronavirus/millennials-now-largest-group-of-positive-covid-19-cases-in-pinellas-county

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/coronavirus/0PA6S2u0/young-adults-teens-lead-leon-county-covid-19-cases

Sorry for reopening this discussion but I just read your link. You say you're not pushing a narrative yet you link an article that says otherwise. I challenged your statement that the Governor thinks young people are immune. Nowhere in the article does the Governor make that claim. He does mistakenly say no children have died w COVID. Big difference between being immune to a disease and being less likely to suffer serious consequences if contracting a disease.

This is an example of the stuff I wish all people of all parties would just stop.

[formerd3db]

You guys were talking about the various potential season scenarios for conference scheduled and possible playoff games.  So here is one to consider also in that overall discussion.
In our conference, they are in the process of deciding if there will be a full season or only conference games. Regardless, it will be impossible to do social distancing on the team bus(es) as only twelve players could be accommodated for that (an additional 4 buses would need to be rented joining the two that our college already owns, and that is not going to happen.) Thus, one proposal being considered is that there may be limits for the number of players dressing for away games, but also for home games as well, possibly using the NCAA limits regarding rosters for playoff games. If that happens, there will be a lot of disappointed players, especially the new recruiting class.

Another apprehension/unknown at this time is the topic of possible stadium limitations for the number of spectators even at DIII games like some schools (such as Michigan State) are considering. This will obviously not be a normal year on any shape or form. Yikes!

[Oline89]

You guys were talking about the various potential season scenarios for conference scheduled and possible playoff games.  So here is one to consider also in that overall discussion.
In our conference, they are in the process of deciding if there will be a full season or only conference games. Regardless, it will be impossible to do social distancing on the team bus(es) as only twelve players could be accommodated for that (an additional 4 buses would need to be rented joining the two that our college already owns, and that is not going to happen.) Thus, one proposal being considered is that there may be limits for the number of players dressing for away games, but also for home games as well, possibly using the NCAA limits regarding rosters for playoff games. If that happens, there will be a lot of disappointed players, especially the new recruiting class.

Another apprehension/unknown at this time is the topic of possible stadium limitations for the number of spectators even at DIII games like some schools (such as Michigan State) are considering. This will obviously not be a normal year on any shape or form. Yikes!

Social distancing of players is simply not an option.  If they aren't going to stay 6 feet apart on the field (even for passing teams a 6' split between O-lineman would be excessive... ), why would they need to stay 6' apart on a bus?  Test all players pre season, even weekly if you really want to, and mandate social gatherings of spectators to your state rules (for instance, once PA goes green, the max number in a group is set to 250).

[formerd3db]

You guys were talking about the various potential season scenarios for conference scheduled and possible playoff games.  So here is one to consider also in that overall discussion.
In our conference, they are in the process of deciding if there will be a full season or only conference games. Regardless, it will be impossible to do social distancing on the team bus(es) as only twelve players could be accommodated for that (an additional 4 buses would need to be rented joining the two that our college already owns, and that is not going to happen.) Thus, one proposal being considered is that there may be limits for the number of players dressing for away games, but also for home games as well, possibly using the NCAA limits regarding rosters for playoff games. If that happens, there will be a lot of disappointed players, especially the new recruiting class.

Another apprehension/unknown at this time is the topic of possible stadium limitations for the number of spectators even at DIII games like some schools (such as Michigan State) are considering. This will obviously not be a normal year on any shape or form. Yikes!

Social distancing of players is simply not an option.  If they aren't going to stay 6 feet apart on the field (even for passing teams a 6' split between O-lineman would be excessive... ), why would they need to stay 6' apart on a bus?  Test all players pre season, even weekly if you really want to, and mandate social gatherings of spectators to your state rules (for instance, once PA goes green, the max number in a group is set to 250).

You are right. However, there are a couple of underlying aspects to borh of those issues. First, being on a bus is "inside" as opposed to being outside on the field. Masks and face shields would be used on the bus.

But...those cost money as does the testing. Each test is $100 a"pop" and will likely take two days for results. So those are some big challenges to work out.

[OzJohnnie]

Dang, going COVID strong over here.  Feel free to come to the MIAC boards and discuss anything but COVID or riots.  Seeing as you've got opinions galore over here, I'll publish some research for everyone to absorb.  It's a cataloguing and review of all near 55k COVID infections in Geneva, Switzerland.  The study was published last week from a collaboration between a number of Swiss health authorities.  The conclusions are obvious but I'll leave them for others to see and debate.

https://osf.io/wdbpe/



EDIT: I'll add for context that the study above builds on a random population serum testing study by the University of Geneva which found that just over 1 in 10 Geneva residents had been exposed to the virus.

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-06/udg-cig061120.php

So the learning from these these studies is that the infection fatality risks is very age specific.  They found that fatality resulted from 1 in ever 600 infections (not positive tests, but all infections) but were dramatically prevalent in the 65+ age bracket.

Roughly, this is the result:

< 10 years of age has approximately 1 death for every 100,000 infections
10 - 19, 1 in 300,000
20 - 49, 1 in 45,000
50 - 64, 1 in 1,000
65+, 1 in 19


So, if you're 65+ then be quite aware of your surroundings.

[MUC57]

Hey Oz

I'm in that 65+ age range, but you already knew that.
Is that a kookaburra I hear laughing in the background? See you on the MIAC board.
Stay safe my friend! 🍺 😷

[OzJohnnie]

Hey Oz

I'm in that 65+ age range, but you already knew that.
Is that a kookaburra I hear laughing in the background? See you on the MIAC board.
Stay safe my friend! 🍺 😷

The virus will need to get in line behind a long list before it gets a shot at you.

[Pat Coleman]

Not sure anyone here is in Geneva.

[MUC57]

Pat Coleman

We've heard from various people on various boards on their covid-19 situations. I know you frown on a lot of discussion on this subject but I hope you and your family are doing well. So many affected in so many ways.
Stay safe. Stay well. Let's hope we can talk more about football than this damn virus. 🏈   

[Pat Coleman]

I'm really only opposed to political-based discussion of the subject.

Thanks for asking -- we have all been safe here. My job can be done exclusively from home, but my wife and my son work in places where customers come to shop, with no customer masking required. So far, all good.

[formerd3db]

Hello Pat:

I'm also glad to hear you and your family have remained healthy so far during this situation.  We have,been safe here also to date, thankfully.

I just thought I would let you know that I have been informed our MIAA is having a follow-up meeting next week to "finalize" plans for the upcoming football season (and the other fall sports, of course), although as you know, some of that would still be subject to change going forward thereafter.  I can let you know some of the preliminaries after, unless, of course, you are provided those sooner once the decisions are made.  The feeling (hope) here is that all this needs to be truly finalized by July 15th.  The guideline proposals for implementing the preseason camp schedules and protocols are quite involved as I'm sure you know and I'm sure are similar to those being considered at all the other DIII schools (with some individual variations pertinent to any particular institution.)     

[ADL70]

The feeling (hope) here is that all this needs to be truly finalized by July 15th.     

Of course the MIAA would have hope! Sorry, couldn't resist.

[MUC57]

The feeling (hope) here is that all this needs to be truly finalized by July 15th.     

Of course the MIAA would have hope! Sorry, couldn't resist.

ADL70

You really said that ,^^^^^^ didn't You? And you, seemingly a grown person and an  All-American on the boards. I suspect the Doc has heard it before.
(I actually liked it).
Stay well and Go Covid-19 Elimination.

Almost forgot -Go Spartans (Raiders too)! 🏈 🎓 🍺