FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Shout-out and kudos to MUC57 -- he posited some good questions to us all a couple of months ago and we took a couple of those and incorporated them into our latest podcast. Namely:

• Are the "purple powers" still on the top of the heap?
• Why is the WIAC the best conference in the land?

https://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2022/03/24/atn-podcast-302-are-the-purple-powers-still-at-the-top-plus-north-centrals-new-coach/

Good food for thought for the offseason. Thank you!

[purple]

  How fortunate for the young Mount Union quarterbacks they get 16 spring practices with Larry Kehres, the QB position coach.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

  How fortunate for the young Mount Union quarterbacks they get 16 spring practices with Larry Kehres, the QB position coach.

What happened to Kevin Burke?

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

  How fortunate for the young Mount Union quarterbacks they get 16 spring practices with Larry Kehres, the QB position coach.

What happened to Kevin Burke?

I just saw on his Twitter that he is now at the University of California Davis.  Dan Hawkins is the HC there.  If my memory is correct, Hawkins was the HC on Team USA when Burke was the QB and Larry Kehres was the OC.

[D3fanboy]

  How fortunate for the young Mount Union quarterbacks they get 16 spring practices with Larry Kehres, the QB position coach.

What happened to Kevin Burke?

I just saw on his Twitter that he is now at the University of California Davis.  Dan Hawkins is the HC there.  If my memory is correct, Hawkins was the HC on Team USA when Burke was the QB and Larry Kehres was the OC.

not a bad jump for the only two-time Gagliardi winner.  I wonder if LK would have any interest in play-calling this season

[D3fanboy]

Shout-out and kudos to MUC57 -- he posited some good questions to us all a couple of months ago and we took a couple of those and incorporated them into our latest podcast. Namely:

• Are the "purple powers" still on the top of the heap?
• Why is the WIAC the best conference in the land?

https://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2022/03/24/atn-podcast-302-are-the-purple-powers-still-at-the-top-plus-north-centrals-new-coach/

Good food for thought for the offseason. Thank you!

I get the anti-Mount bias from Pat and his buddy, but when did UMHB win "three Stagg Bowls" according to Gerg?

"Why is the WIAC the best"  not a single peep from the D3 boys about the "cheap/public" tuition from our WI friends....interesting

[Pat Coleman]

I get the anti-Mount bias from Pat and his buddy, but when did UMHB win "three Stagg Bowls" according to Gerg?

I think I pretty well reiterate our stance on this during my interview with Brad Spencer, if you've made it that far. Also not sure how your perception of our bias played out in this statement. What am I missing?

"Why is the WIAC the best"  not a single peep from the D3 boys about the "cheap/public" tuition from our WI friends....interesting

That's not a differentiator. One-fourth of NCAA Division III is state schools with that same tuition, so why is it only the WIAC?

[D3fanboy]

I get the anti-Mount bias from Pat and his buddy, but when did UMHB win "three Stagg Bowls" according to Gerg?

I think I pretty well reiterate our stance on this during my interview with Brad Spencer, if you've made it that far. Also not sure how your perception of our bias played out in this statement. What am I missing?

"Why is the WIAC the best"  not a single peep from the D3 boys about the "cheap/public" tuition from our WI friends....interesting

That's not a differentiator. One-fourth of NCAA Division III is state schools with that same tuition, so why is it only the WIAC?

1) Just listened, I get the difference between "winning the Stagg" vs "national champion".  But why does D3football protect the lone D3 football national champion to embarrassingly have a title revoked?

2)  you and I both know that in-state tuition is a huge, huge part of the WIAC's success.  I'd love to see a breakdown of D3 publics vs privates.  I'm sure that NY public schools are a large number of your "one-fourth", but they could not care less about football. 

[MUC57]

It's great that LK will be the QB coach. Not sure there was a major problem at that position.
Now, coaching?  That area needs some work.
Just my, and a few other peoples opinion. But what do I know?
Go Raiders!   

[Pat Coleman]

I get the anti-Mount bias from Pat and his buddy, but when did UMHB win "three Stagg Bowls" according to Gerg?

I think I pretty well reiterate our stance on this during my interview with Brad Spencer, if you've made it that far. Also not sure how your perception of our bias played out in this statement. What am I missing?

"Why is the WIAC the best"  not a single peep from the D3 boys about the "cheap/public" tuition from our WI friends....interesting

That's not a differentiator. One-fourth of NCAA Division III is state schools with that same tuition, so why is it only the WIAC?

1) Just listened, I get the difference between "winning the Stagg" vs "national champion".  But why does D3football protect the lone D3 football national champion to embarrassingly have a title revoked?

2)  you and I both know that in-state tuition is a huge, huge part of the WIAC's success.  I'd love to see a breakdown of D3 publics vs privates.  I'm sure that NY public schools are a large number of your "one-fourth", but they could not care less about football.

Not just New York, but also New Jersey and Massachusetts have a large number, plus schools such as Salisbury, Christopher Newport, Sul Ross, Minnesota-Morris. This obviously spans a wide spectrum of schools and football programs, but they do exist outside of Wisconsin and New York. Yes, the listed sticker price is lower but we all know that private schools have a tremendous amount of leeway with financial aid. Even with my non-athletic children, one is finishing a degree at one of the most expensive schools in the country and will pay far less out of pocket than my youngest, who is almost certainly going to go to a state school.

I am not sure I would use the term protect, but yes, reflecting what happened on the field. They came away with the trophy. They won the game. Heck, even this year's official Stagg Bowl game program listed UMHB as the winner of two previous Stagg Bowls.

[Pat Coleman]

Heck, even this year's official Stagg Bowl game program listed UMHB as the winner of two previous Stagg Bowls.

To be clear, I think this is just lack of attention to detail on the part of whomever is in charge of program content, not any reflection on what NCAA staff think.

[MUC57]

Just my limited knowledge opinion

How can you take away a championship from a team that won it on the field? Maybe something should be taken away from the coach.
As far as I'm concerned, at least in my own little world, UMHB has three (3) national championships!
But, as always, I defer to the experts (Pat, et al) on the reality of the situation.
Go D3football! 

[Pat Coleman]

Just my limited knowledge opinion

How can you take away a championship from a team that won it on the field? Maybe something should be taken away from the coach.
As far as I'm concerned, at least in my own little world, UMHB has three (3) national championships!
But, as always, I defer to the experts (Pat, et al) on the reality of the situation.
Go D3football! 

Our history page lists the official result as being vacated, and our news stories cover the events around it all. But when we are talking about what happened on the field, we generally aren't going to pretend those games didn't happen.

[edward de vere]

The importance of Mount Union football, from the pages of history.

Reflecting upon the 1922 season, Coach John "Jack" Thorpe said:  "The disastrous season of 1921 had broken the spirit of the players and ruined the morale of the student body, so it was indeed a pleasant surprise to win seven out of the nine starts."

Ruined the morale of the student body.  MUC57, you were there.  Is that really true?

[rscl70]

It's great that LK will be the QB coach. Not sure there was a major problem at that position.
Now, coaching?  That area needs some work.
Just my, and a few other peoples opinion. But what do I know?
Go Raiders!   

Dartt is starting his "third" season with a record of 17-1.  Let's give him a little more time before we get out the tar and feathers.