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mc1983

Quote from: #1OacFan on November 17, 2023, 09:16:31 AM
EADA and Collegefactual provides how much each University spends on a practically Sport.  Here are the numbers each University spent on Football in 2022. This takes into account Coaching Salaries and budgets. This is a very simple Google search if anyone want to check the numbers.  I have been tracking this for a few years and ONU numbers are up about $75k, but they also took an international trip last year. Mount Union's, JCU, and BW's numbers are Down from 2021 $834,398, $760,483, $622,074 respectively.  However, we have a clear-cut Top 4.

#1 Ohio Northern $896,006
#2 Mount Union $724,917
#3 John Carroll $632,541
#4 Baldwin Wallace $572,398
#5 Heidelberg $482,851
#6 Wilmington $462,909
#7 Muskingum $417,432
#8 Otterbein $414,524
#9 Capital $394,647
#10 Marietta $383,204

Having worked for decades in university finance offices, I can tell you that EADA reports are very difficult to compare. What one school considers a sport-specific expense or another may consider general expense, for example, varies wildly between colleges. The overall athletics spend (not just football) would probably be a better comparison. There is no standard accounting practice on these.

mc1983

This is the total athletics spending by school, per the EADA reports. While some schools may spend disproportionally more on football (like Mount, I would imagine), this is probably a better overall comparison. Some schools have much higher "not allocated" expenses compared to others, much of which probably goes towards football in one manner or another. For example, some schools may lump all travel into "not allocated", while others break it down by sport.

Ohio Northern - $5,278,248
Baldwin Wallace - $4,659,646
John Carroll - $3,956,466
Mount Union - $3,853,504
Marietta - $3,545,882
Muskingum - $3,284,053
Otterbein - $2,992,563
Capital - $2,792,461
Heidelberg - $2,138,483
Wilmington - $2,017,584

Two things that are somewhat surprising from the list - how much more ONU spends compared to anyone else, and how low Heidelberg is despite having success in most major sports.

Raider 68

Quote from: mc1983 on November 17, 2023, 12:53:35 PM
This is the total athletics spending by school, per the EADA reports. While some schools may spend disproportionally more on football (like Mount, I would imagine), this is probably a better overall comparison. Some schools have much higher "not allocated" expenses compared to others, much of which probably goes towards football in one manner or another. For example, some schools may lump all travel into "not allocated", while others break it down by sport.

Ohio Northern - $5,278,248
Baldwin Wallace - $4,659,646
John Carroll - $3,956,466
Mount Union - $3,853,504
Marietta - $3,545,882
Muskingum - $3,284,053
Otterbein - $2,992,563
Capital - $2,792,461
Heidelberg - $2,138,483
Wilmington - $2,017,584

Two things that are somewhat surprising from the list - how much more ONU spends compared to anyone else, and how low Heidelberg is despite having success in most major sports.

Good info, Thanks :)
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Dr. Acula

Quote from: mc1983 on November 17, 2023, 12:53:35 PM
This is the total athletics spending by school, per the EADA reports. While some schools may spend disproportionally more on football (like Mount, I would imagine), this is probably a better overall comparison. Some schools have much higher "not allocated" expenses compared to others, much of which probably goes towards football in one manner or another. For example, some schools may lump all travel into "not allocated", while others break it down by sport.

Ohio Northern - $5,278,248
Baldwin Wallace - $4,659,646
John Carroll - $3,956,466
Mount Union - $3,853,504
Marietta - $3,545,882
Muskingum - $3,284,053
Otterbein - $2,992,563
Capital - $2,792,461
Heidelberg - $2,138,483
Wilmington - $2,017,584

Two things that are somewhat surprising from the list - how much more ONU spends compared to anyone else, and how low Heidelberg is despite having success in most major sports.

This aligns closer to what I would have guessed on athletics spending.  Thanks for sharing.

BergAlum2

Heidelberg's finally getting a field house, shame they don't really have any land to build it, having to tear down the senior apartments.  Bummer also it only has like 40 yards of indoor turf, but better than nothing, they tore down the like 1920s era wood gym 6-7 years ago so all the sports teams and student orgs been fighting for time to use the basketball court  ;D

https://bergathletics.com/news/2023/10/19/the-student-athletics-academic-and-recreation-center.aspx

For being in last place for money spent of football, Marietta getting a good value for their money  8-)


#1OacFan

I'm not sure where you are getting this information, here is what I found for total Athletic Spending.

Ohio Northern $5,215,452
Baldwin Wallace $4,903,740
John Carroll $4,266,406
Mount Union $3,754,888
Marietta $3,401,878
Heidelberg $3,093,968
Otterbein $2,764,266
Wilmington $2,685,322
Muskingum $2,646,186
Capital $2,199,386

Baseball
ONU $205,763
BW $195,557
Heidelberg $190,378
Marietta $187,795
Mount Union $180,276
Muskingum 172,903
JCU $145,050
Otterbein $125,144
Capital $106,666
Wilmington $96,186

Basketball
Mount Union $278,792
ONU $225,023
Capital $196,055
BW $195,557
JCU $188,955
Wilmington 96,186
Heidelberg N/A
Marietta N/A
Muskingum N/A
Otterbein N/A

Men's Basketball is the only sport that isn't always reported.  However, ONU is nearly always on the top of the list. 

WRMUalum13

This comment is totally out of the blue, but I made a discovery yesterday that other Mount fan's might appreciate.

The 2014 national championship game always bothered me the most of any Mount Union loss. That team's offense was the best execution of the zone read offense I've ever seen. After the 2014 semi finals against Wesley I figured a championship was inevitable. Anyway after losing to UWW I still thought Mount was the best team in the country that year and just executed terribly in Salem as well as enduring some poor coaching decisions (i.e. not taking a knee before halftime) . I've maintained this opinion for years, and it's the only Mount team I've followed that I feel this way about (I've accepted every other loss as losing to an equal or better team)

Anyway, after semi-randomly stumbling across Massey's 2014 final ratings I realized that those ratings agree with me regarding 2014! Mount Union's final rank was #1 and UWW was #2. Even after being updated for the championship game and head to head loss. Here's the link for anyone curious: https://masseyratings.com/cf2014/ncaa-d3/ratings

Part of me always thought I was just being a biased purple raiders fan with my thoughts about 2014, but it turns out my opinion wasn't as fringe as I thought!


WRMUalum13

Mount Union is charging for their video feed. I thought NCAA playoff rules had to allow free streams.. apparently not!

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

After a nice first drive (including a fake punt), followed up by an unsuccessful onside kick, Alfred State has resorted to rolling out and throwing the ball out of bounds.
National Champions - 13: 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015, 2017

Fido0650

Not sure what ref was looking at (maybe watching Maryland game on his smart watch, I don't know) but a huge push off on that 2nd Alfred TD. Receiver and defender together when ball was in the air.  Receiver catches ball, defender 5 yards behind him.

WRMUalum13

I'm a bit concerned ASU could score twice against Mount Union's starting D. Not sure if they pulled out some trickery or what, but UMU should be sharper after playing two decent OAC opponents the last two weeks.

Well I guess Fido's post shed's a bit of light on that

Fido0650

Not concerned with D, stats should show that at halftime.  Seems like Plunk leading receivers just a bit.  Balls just off fingertips quite a few times and Alfred St with a goal line stand at their 1 yrd line.

D3fanboy

Mount looks totally unprepared.  Poor coaching and poor execution

MonroviaCat

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 18, 2023, 12:19:27 PM
Mount Union is charging for their video feed. I thought NCAA playoff rules had to allow free streams.. apparently not!
Right?  Did something change or are they just making up their own rules? ???
Go Cats!

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

After doing what they wanted in the 1st Quarter, Mount severely underperformed in the 2nd.
National Champions - 13: 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015, 2017