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rscl70

Quote from: MOUNT2019 on November 28, 2023, 04:17:16 PM
FYI...Beaudrie is coming back to Mount!

I suspected/hoped that this would be the case.  Really looking forward to seeing the Raiders with Beaudrie at the helm.
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Quote from: rscl70 on November 29, 2023, 08:29:09 AM
Quote from: MOUNT2019 on November 28, 2023, 04:17:16 PM
FYI...Beaudrie is coming back to Mount!

I suspected/hoped that this would be the case.  Really looking forward to seeing the Raiders with Beaudrie at the helm.


Makes sense with Plunk returning this year. Take a semester off and retain the year of eligibility.
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Quote from: D3fanboy on November 28, 2023, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 27, 2023, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 27, 2023, 01:03:32 PM
Quote from: FIGHTINGSCOT on November 27, 2023, 12:57:36 PM
"a team like that" had a wonderful trip to Alliance.  Thank you for your hospitality.

congrats on the W, literally meant no disrespect. I'll be rooting for Alma to make a Stagg Bowl run.  It was a shot at the powers that be at Mount that allowed such a loss to even be a possibility.

Everybody loves a double backhanded compliment. 

I'm not sure the powers that be at Mount Union have much control over the great jobs being done at other programs.  Mount Union set a goal for literally everyone in the division to chase.  Teams are reaching that endpoint.  It's less that Mount Union is not as good now and more that other teams are also excellent.  I believe Mount Union will continue to contend for national championships, but the playing field is different now.  Stagg Bowls are not only Mount Union's to lose as they may have been in the glory days.  There are a lot of great teams in the division now- largely thanks to the bar Mount Union set.

It wasn't really a backhanded compliment.  This was probably the greatest upset in D3 playoff history, by far the worst loss in recent (30+ years) Mount Union history, it was a 20+ point spread by most metrics.  Alma is a fine team and found another gear in that 4th quarter, incredible win for the Scots.  The game last Saturday is one thing, but it is only a small part of the issue in Alliance right now.

Quote from: hsbsballcoach7 on November 27, 2023, 08:31:34 PM
Let me start with a huge, Thank You!!!!! to the Mount Union football program for giving me a fun team to root for every fall.  Thank You seniors for putting in the work to represent the university and yourselves in a great way.  Many of you faced challenges we don't know about as fans,  but continued to wear the purple, white and black proudly. I wish you all the best and hope you can look back at your time as a Purple Raider in a better light as time passes.

State of the program from my point of view (and a nobody at that):
Mount still has good coaches, players, facilities and a great program(look what they did to the OAC this year). They will be back next year, compete for the OAC (JCU and Marietta have big holes to fill as well) and will have a shot at the title.
I like the talent in the position groups still, but have a couple of observations...
Our championship teams always got pressure on the QB and usually without needing to send extra guys. Since they've gone to 3 down lineman, they haven't handled the top tier offenses as well. Alma QB had lots of time in the 4th Q to find open guys.
In order to beat the great teams, there must be a threat of running the football from the QB position (or a near perfect pocket passer) and make the defense think you might do something. Nobody fell for the play action game in this offense. I don't think I ever saw the QB pull an RPO to pass the ball either. There were also many drops that weren't on the QB from TE and WRs.
Our play calling used to put defenses on their heels and play mind games with them. I was hoping there would be more deep ball opportunities with the speed on the outside. Sanders just missed the one deep ball thrown (and a missed PI with the jersey pulled), but that used to be commonplace after a turnover or drawing the defenders into the box.
Creation of mismatches just weren't there.... get your playmaker the ball in space.
I hope Dartt hires a true OC, so he can manage players and the game.  It's not easy trying to do all of that and prepare an offense for each series and get a feel from your players on what they're seeing.

I see next year, there's still an opening for week 1. Who are we calling? It needs to be someone decent because the schedule flips again and JCU is week 2.

Just my rambling thoughts. Go Purple Raiders!


there 100% has to be an OC hired, and hopefully it is someone not currently on the staff.  The lack of creativity, lack of aggressiveness, etc over the past three years has been maddening.  If the drunk idiots in section 13 know which play is coming, I bet the defensive staff does as well.  And can we hire a full-time S&C coach?? 


if I'm the HC of a program on the rise, I'm calling up Mount Union to get that week 1 spot.  Mount will have a bunch back, but they will have a new QB and no NFL-bound WR.  There is not going to be a much better time to take your shot at a program building type victory.
CCIW fan here but huge supporter of D3 overall. I have been to Alliance and lost when The Machine was rolling, and admired the consistency of their program for a long time. I have also seen my team be the victim of NCC since 2006. I think the S&C part is the biggest piece missing from this program. If you look at their losses or close games the last couple of years the LOS is where they are lacking. The OL has length  and good frames just lack the overall mass. The bigger guys look a little soft in the mid-section. The one loss that it was glaring was 21 semis against NCC. The LOS was dominated in that game specifically on the last drive NCC had. Last year in the Championship it was a war but they just could not finish when it mattered the most. 
Coach Dartt has the impossible job of leading this team but has done a good job. It seems that there is an under current with some players on the team and recent alums with him. The biggest concern would be the culture in the locker room. The uproar on social media and finger pointing was the only alarming thing I have seen. Otherwise any program in the country would kill for a resume that Mount has had since Dartt took over. Mount will reload and refocus and the expectations will Champions or nothing. Hope my guys will one day have a chance to compete against Mount in the future.

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: ROCKISLANDRICK on November 29, 2023, 10:40:49 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 28, 2023, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 27, 2023, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 27, 2023, 01:03:32 PM
Quote from: FIGHTINGSCOT on November 27, 2023, 12:57:36 PM
"a team like that" had a wonderful trip to Alliance.  Thank you for your hospitality.

congrats on the W, literally meant no disrespect. I'll be rooting for Alma to make a Stagg Bowl run.  It was a shot at the powers that be at Mount that allowed such a loss to even be a possibility.

Everybody loves a double backhanded compliment. 

I'm not sure the powers that be at Mount Union have much control over the great jobs being done at other programs.  Mount Union set a goal for literally everyone in the division to chase.  Teams are reaching that endpoint.  It's less that Mount Union is not as good now and more that other teams are also excellent.  I believe Mount Union will continue to contend for national championships, but the playing field is different now.  Stagg Bowls are not only Mount Union's to lose as they may have been in the glory days.  There are a lot of great teams in the division now- largely thanks to the bar Mount Union set.

It wasn't really a backhanded compliment.  This was probably the greatest upset in D3 playoff history, by far the worst loss in recent (30+ years) Mount Union history, it was a 20+ point spread by most metrics.  Alma is a fine team and found another gear in that 4th quarter, incredible win for the Scots.  The game last Saturday is one thing, but it is only a small part of the issue in Alliance right now.

Quote from: hsbsballcoach7 on November 27, 2023, 08:31:34 PM
Let me start with a huge, Thank You!!!!! to the Mount Union football program for giving me a fun team to root for every fall.  Thank You seniors for putting in the work to represent the university and yourselves in a great way.  Many of you faced challenges we don't know about as fans,  but continued to wear the purple, white and black proudly. I wish you all the best and hope you can look back at your time as a Purple Raider in a better light as time passes.

State of the program from my point of view (and a nobody at that):
Mount still has good coaches, players, facilities and a great program(look what they did to the OAC this year). They will be back next year, compete for the OAC (JCU and Marietta have big holes to fill as well) and will have a shot at the title.
I like the talent in the position groups still, but have a couple of observations...
Our championship teams always got pressure on the QB and usually without needing to send extra guys. Since they've gone to 3 down lineman, they haven't handled the top tier offenses as well. Alma QB had lots of time in the 4th Q to find open guys.
In order to beat the great teams, there must be a threat of running the football from the QB position (or a near perfect pocket passer) and make the defense think you might do something. Nobody fell for the play action game in this offense. I don't think I ever saw the QB pull an RPO to pass the ball either. There were also many drops that weren't on the QB from TE and WRs.
Our play calling used to put defenses on their heels and play mind games with them. I was hoping there would be more deep ball opportunities with the speed on the outside. Sanders just missed the one deep ball thrown (and a missed PI with the jersey pulled), but that used to be commonplace after a turnover or drawing the defenders into the box.
Creation of mismatches just weren't there.... get your playmaker the ball in space.
I hope Dartt hires a true OC, so he can manage players and the game.  It's not easy trying to do all of that and prepare an offense for each series and get a feel from your players on what they're seeing.

I see next year, there's still an opening for week 1. Who are we calling? It needs to be someone decent because the schedule flips again and JCU is week 2.

Just my rambling thoughts. Go Purple Raiders!


there 100% has to be an OC hired, and hopefully it is someone not currently on the staff.  The lack of creativity, lack of aggressiveness, etc over the past three years has been maddening.  If the drunk idiots in section 13 know which play is coming, I bet the defensive staff does as well.  And can we hire a full-time S&C coach?? 


if I'm the HC of a program on the rise, I'm calling up Mount Union to get that week 1 spot.  Mount will have a bunch back, but they will have a new QB and no NFL-bound WR.  There is not going to be a much better time to take your shot at a program building type victory.
CCIW fan here but huge supporter of D3 overall. I have been to Alliance and lost when The Machine was rolling, and admired the consistency of their program for a long time. I have also seen my team be the victim of NCC since 2006. I think the S&C part is the biggest piece missing from this program. If you look at their losses or close games the last couple of years the LOS is where they are lacking. The OL has length  and good frames just lack the overall mass. The bigger guys look a little soft in the mid-section. The one loss that it was glaring was 21 semis against NCC. The LOS was dominated in that game specifically on the last drive NCC had. Last year in the Championship it was a war but they just could not finish when it mattered the most. 
Coach Dartt has the impossible job of leading this team but has done a good job. It seems that there is an under current with some players on the team and recent alums with him. The biggest concern would be the culture in the locker room. The uproar on social media and finger pointing was the only alarming thing I have seen. Otherwise any program in the country would kill for a resume that Mount has had since Dartt took over. Mount will reload and refocus and the expectations will Champions or nothing. Hope my guys will one day have a chance to compete against Mount in the future.

Very good take.  Thanks for the look from the outside.  Darrtt is 42-3 so far, and lots of teams would love to have that success.  I guess the biggest thing is the lack of creativity on Offense and the instances of giving up the big plays on Defense.

Spoiled fan here (I graduated in 1994) but would obviously like them to get back to dominating nationally.
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Quote from: hsbsballcoach7 on November 28, 2023, 06:19:12 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 28, 2023, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 28, 2023, 05:34:07 PM
Interesting nugget that I just found from Coach Dartt's bio:

QuoteIn five years as offensive coordinator, his unit has led the nation in nine different statistical categories including leading the nation in scoring three times.

I'm sure that was an accident though.   Hey, even a broken clock is right three times in five years or something like that.

was he also the head coach at the time? maybe being the CEO and calling plays is a little too much for the son-in-law?

maybe he's a better OC than HC?

I felt like one of the best offenses I saw in 30 years of following Mount was when Dartt was the OC with Taurice Scott at QB, BJ Mitchell/Logan Nemeth at RB, Namdar/Kennedy at WR. They were unpredictable and put defenses on the heels all game long. Of course that defense was nasty too. Many of the same coaches are in the program still and I believe they can get back to that. It just takes some reflection sometimes.

Dartt was a really good offesnive coordinator. He talked a lot about creating "conflicts of assignment" on defense, and ran some really interesting schemes. He was the coordinator from 2013-2016, and those offenses were awesome. The 2014 team ran an extremely up tempo zone read style offense that set a bunch of season records and put up 70+ on Wesley and then the 2015 team had similar impact.

Event Dart's playcalling in the second half of the stagg bowl was pretty good, he switched Mount Up into a jumbo two TE package and tried running the ball on NCC (which they looked totally unprepared for. 

He definitely has the talent to put together creative offensive schemes but it's frustrating that we haven't really seen that creativity much lately

I'm still at a loss how we could bring back a Gagliardi finalist, his top receiver and the team's starting running back and somehow regress on offense. I'm wondering if we lost key O line players from last year that I don't remember

D3fanboy

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Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 30, 2023, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: hsbsballcoach7 on November 28, 2023, 06:19:12 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 28, 2023, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 28, 2023, 05:34:07 PM
Interesting nugget that I just found from Coach Dartt's bio:

QuoteIn five years as offensive coordinator, his unit has led the nation in nine different statistical categories including leading the nation in scoring three times.

I'm sure that was an accident though.   Hey, even a broken clock is right three times in five years or something like that.

was he also the head coach at the time? maybe being the CEO and calling plays is a little too much for the son-in-law?

maybe he's a better OC than HC?

I felt like one of the best offenses I saw in 30 years of following Mount was when Dartt was the OC with Taurice Scott at QB, BJ Mitchell/Logan Nemeth at RB, Namdar/Kennedy at WR. They were unpredictable and put defenses on the heels all game long. Of course that defense was nasty too. Many of the same coaches are in the program still and I believe they can get back to that. It just takes some reflection sometimes.

Dartt was a really good offesnive coordinator. He talked a lot about creating "conflicts of assignment" on defense, and ran some really interesting schemes. He was the coordinator from 2013-2016, and those offenses were awesome. The 2014 team ran an extremely up tempo zone read style offense that set a bunch of season records and put up 70+ on Wesley and then the 2015 team had similar impact.

Event Dart's playcalling in the second half of the stagg bowl was pretty good, he switched Mount Up into a jumbo two TE package and tried running the ball on NCC (which they looked totally unprepared for. 

He definitely has the talent to put together creative offensive schemes but it's frustrating that we haven't really seen that creativity much lately

I'm still at a loss how we could bring back a Gagliardi finalist, his top receiver and the team's starting running back and somehow regress on offense. I'm wondering if we lost key O line players from last year that I don't remember

Mount did not.  Brought back a T, G and C on the OL.  Carson Barrett was a preseason AA at OG, but he was replaced by Kennedy, who was fantastic all year and first team all OAC.  Mount made the Stagg Bowl with a TE playing RT for the second half of last season.  The OL should have been much, much better in '23 than '22.  OT Cange was a starter early on in '22 before injury. 

80% of OL returning (other 20% was 1st team OAC) and all americans at QB, WR, RB....I wonder what could have been the issue?


WRMUalum13

Quote from: D3fanboy on November 30, 2023, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 30, 2023, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: hsbsballcoach7 on November 28, 2023, 06:19:12 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 28, 2023, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 28, 2023, 05:34:07 PM
Interesting nugget that I just found from Coach Dartt's bio:

QuoteIn five years as offensive coordinator, his unit has led the nation in nine different statistical categories including leading the nation in scoring three times.

I'm sure that was an accident though.   Hey, even a broken clock is right three times in five years or something like that.

was he also the head coach at the time? maybe being the CEO and calling plays is a little too much for the son-in-law?

maybe he's a better OC than HC?

I felt like one of the best offenses I saw in 30 years of following Mount was when Dartt was the OC with Taurice Scott at QB, BJ Mitchell/Logan Nemeth at RB, Namdar/Kennedy at WR. They were unpredictable and put defenses on the heels all game long. Of course that defense was nasty too. Many of the same coaches are in the program still and I believe they can get back to that. It just takes some reflection sometimes.

Dartt was a really good offesnive coordinator. He talked a lot about creating "conflicts of assignment" on defense, and ran some really interesting schemes. He was the coordinator from 2013-2016, and those offenses were awesome. The 2014 team ran an extremely up tempo zone read style offense that set a bunch of season records and put up 70+ on Wesley and then the 2015 team had similar impact.

Event Dart's playcalling in the second half of the stagg bowl was pretty good, he switched Mount Up into a jumbo two TE package and tried running the ball on NCC (which they looked totally unprepared for. 

He definitely has the talent to put together creative offensive schemes but it's frustrating that we haven't really seen that creativity much lately

I'm still at a loss how we could bring back a Gagliardi finalist, his top receiver and the team's starting running back and somehow regress on offense. I'm wondering if we lost key O line players from last year that I don't remember

Mount did not.  Brought back a T, G and C on the OL.  Carson Barrett was a preseason AA at OG, but he was replaced by Kennedy, who was fantastic all year and first team all OAC.  Mount made the Stagg Bowl with a TE playing RT for the second half of last season.  The OL should have been much, much better in '23 than '22.  OT Cange was a starter early on in '22 before injury. 

80% of OL returning (other 20% was 1st team OAC) and all americans at QB, WR, RB....I wonder what could have been the issue?

Yeah... that's pretty wild. I would have felt different if Alma came into the game with a highly ranked defense that exposed Mount's Offensive shortfall, but the fact they were #36 in scoring D, 35th rushing D, Out of the top 50 in total D and 44th in Passing D is just so strange. They certainly looked like an elite D on Saturday. I'm verrry curious to see how they play against Cortland, maybe their D is just peaking at the right time.


D3fanboy

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 30, 2023, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 30, 2023, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 30, 2023, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: hsbsballcoach7 on November 28, 2023, 06:19:12 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 28, 2023, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 28, 2023, 05:34:07 PM
Interesting nugget that I just found from Coach Dartt's bio:

QuoteIn five years as offensive coordinator, his unit has led the nation in nine different statistical categories including leading the nation in scoring three times.

I'm sure that was an accident though.   Hey, even a broken clock is right three times in five years or something like that.

was he also the head coach at the time? maybe being the CEO and calling plays is a little too much for the son-in-law?

maybe he's a better OC than HC?

I felt like one of the best offenses I saw in 30 years of following Mount was when Dartt was the OC with Taurice Scott at QB, BJ Mitchell/Logan Nemeth at RB, Namdar/Kennedy at WR. They were unpredictable and put defenses on the heels all game long. Of course that defense was nasty too. Many of the same coaches are in the program still and I believe they can get back to that. It just takes some reflection sometimes.

Dartt was a really good offesnive coordinator. He talked a lot about creating "conflicts of assignment" on defense, and ran some really interesting schemes. He was the coordinator from 2013-2016, and those offenses were awesome. The 2014 team ran an extremely up tempo zone read style offense that set a bunch of season records and put up 70+ on Wesley and then the 2015 team had similar impact.

Event Dart's playcalling in the second half of the stagg bowl was pretty good, he switched Mount Up into a jumbo two TE package and tried running the ball on NCC (which they looked totally unprepared for. 

He definitely has the talent to put together creative offensive schemes but it's frustrating that we haven't really seen that creativity much lately

I'm still at a loss how we could bring back a Gagliardi finalist, his top receiver and the team's starting running back and somehow regress on offense. I'm wondering if we lost key O line players from last year that I don't remember

Mount did not.  Brought back a T, G and C on the OL.  Carson Barrett was a preseason AA at OG, but he was replaced by Kennedy, who was fantastic all year and first team all OAC.  Mount made the Stagg Bowl with a TE playing RT for the second half of last season.  The OL should have been much, much better in '23 than '22.  OT Cange was a starter early on in '22 before injury. 

80% of OL returning (other 20% was 1st team OAC) and all americans at QB, WR, RB....I wonder what could have been the issue?

Yeah... that's pretty wild. I would have felt different if Alma came into the game with a highly ranked defense that exposed Mount's Offensive shortfall, but the fact they were #36 in scoring D, 35th rushing D, Out of the top 50 in total D and 44th in Passing D is just so strange. They certainly looked like an elite D on Saturday. I'm verrry curious to see how they play against Cortland, maybe their D is just peaking at the right time.

Elite is not the word that I would use.  Mount attempting 3 FG in a non-blowout game is not very common.  Mount having 270 yards at the half and only 10 points is something, 99 plays and 20 points is wild.  The other team is supposed to play scared in Alliance, not the Purple Raiders

WRMUalum13

Quote from: D3fanboy on November 30, 2023, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 30, 2023, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 30, 2023, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 30, 2023, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: hsbsballcoach7 on November 28, 2023, 06:19:12 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 28, 2023, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 28, 2023, 05:34:07 PM
Interesting nugget that I just found from Coach Dartt's bio:

QuoteIn five years as offensive coordinator, his unit has led the nation in nine different statistical categories including leading the nation in scoring three times.

I'm sure that was an accident though.   Hey, even a broken clock is right three times in five years or something like that.

was he also the head coach at the time? maybe being the CEO and calling plays is a little too much for the son-in-law?

maybe he's a better OC than HC?

I felt like one of the best offenses I saw in 30 years of following Mount was when Dartt was the OC with Taurice Scott at QB, BJ Mitchell/Logan Nemeth at RB, Namdar/Kennedy at WR. They were unpredictable and put defenses on the heels all game long. Of course that defense was nasty too. Many of the same coaches are in the program still and I believe they can get back to that. It just takes some reflection sometimes.

Dartt was a really good offesnive coordinator. He talked a lot about creating "conflicts of assignment" on defense, and ran some really interesting schemes. He was the coordinator from 2013-2016, and those offenses were awesome. The 2014 team ran an extremely up tempo zone read style offense that set a bunch of season records and put up 70+ on Wesley and then the 2015 team had similar impact.

Event Dart's playcalling in the second half of the stagg bowl was pretty good, he switched Mount Up into a jumbo two TE package and tried running the ball on NCC (which they looked totally unprepared for. 

He definitely has the talent to put together creative offensive schemes but it's frustrating that we haven't really seen that creativity much lately

I'm still at a loss how we could bring back a Gagliardi finalist, his top receiver and the team's starting running back and somehow regress on offense. I'm wondering if we lost key O line players from last year that I don't remember

Mount did not.  Brought back a T, G and C on the OL.  Carson Barrett was a preseason AA at OG, but he was replaced by Kennedy, who was fantastic all year and first team all OAC.  Mount made the Stagg Bowl with a TE playing RT for the second half of last season.  The OL should have been much, much better in '23 than '22.  OT Cange was a starter early on in '22 before injury. 

80% of OL returning (other 20% was 1st team OAC) and all americans at QB, WR, RB....I wonder what could have been the issue?

Yeah... that's pretty wild. I would have felt different if Alma came into the game with a highly ranked defense that exposed Mount's Offensive shortfall, but the fact they were #36 in scoring D, 35th rushing D, Out of the top 50 in total D and 44th in Passing D is just so strange. They certainly looked like an elite D on Saturday. I'm verrry curious to see how they play against Cortland, maybe their D is just peaking at the right time.

Elite is not the word that I would use.  Mount attempting 3 FG in a non-blowout game is not very common.  Mount having 270 yards at the half and only 10 points is something, 99 plays and 20 points is wild.  The other team is supposed to play scared in Alliance, not the Purple Raiders

I'm saying despite their non elite stats coming into the game, the way Mount's offense was unable to score made Alma's defense look elite. 20 is the fewest amount of points Mount has scored in a game since the 2021 semis.

D3fanboy

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 30, 2023, 04:30:34 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 30, 2023, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 30, 2023, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 30, 2023, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 30, 2023, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: hsbsballcoach7 on November 28, 2023, 06:19:12 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on November 28, 2023, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 28, 2023, 05:34:07 PM
Interesting nugget that I just found from Coach Dartt's bio:

QuoteIn five years as offensive coordinator, his unit has led the nation in nine different statistical categories including leading the nation in scoring three times.

I'm sure that was an accident though.   Hey, even a broken clock is right three times in five years or something like that.

was he also the head coach at the time? maybe being the CEO and calling plays is a little too much for the son-in-law?

maybe he's a better OC than HC?

I felt like one of the best offenses I saw in 30 years of following Mount was when Dartt was the OC with Taurice Scott at QB, BJ Mitchell/Logan Nemeth at RB, Namdar/Kennedy at WR. They were unpredictable and put defenses on the heels all game long. Of course that defense was nasty too. Many of the same coaches are in the program still and I believe they can get back to that. It just takes some reflection sometimes.

Dartt was a really good offesnive coordinator. He talked a lot about creating "conflicts of assignment" on defense, and ran some really interesting schemes. He was the coordinator from 2013-2016, and those offenses were awesome. The 2014 team ran an extremely up tempo zone read style offense that set a bunch of season records and put up 70+ on Wesley and then the 2015 team had similar impact.

Event Dart's playcalling in the second half of the stagg bowl was pretty good, he switched Mount Up into a jumbo two TE package and tried running the ball on NCC (which they looked totally unprepared for. 

He definitely has the talent to put together creative offensive schemes but it's frustrating that we haven't really seen that creativity much lately

I'm still at a loss how we could bring back a Gagliardi finalist, his top receiver and the team's starting running back and somehow regress on offense. I'm wondering if we lost key O line players from last year that I don't remember

Mount did not.  Brought back a T, G and C on the OL.  Carson Barrett was a preseason AA at OG, but he was replaced by Kennedy, who was fantastic all year and first team all OAC.  Mount made the Stagg Bowl with a TE playing RT for the second half of last season.  The OL should have been much, much better in '23 than '22.  OT Cange was a starter early on in '22 before injury. 

80% of OL returning (other 20% was 1st team OAC) and all americans at QB, WR, RB....I wonder what could have been the issue?

Yeah... that's pretty wild. I would have felt different if Alma came into the game with a highly ranked defense that exposed Mount's Offensive shortfall, but the fact they were #36 in scoring D, 35th rushing D, Out of the top 50 in total D and 44th in Passing D is just so strange. They certainly looked like an elite D on Saturday. I'm verrry curious to see how they play against Cortland, maybe their D is just peaking at the right time.

Elite is not the word that I would use.  Mount attempting 3 FG in a non-blowout game is not very common.  Mount having 270 yards at the half and only 10 points is something, 99 plays and 20 points is wild.  The other team is supposed to play scared in Alliance, not the Purple Raiders

I'm saying despite their non elite stats coming into the game, the way Mount's offense was unable to score made Alma's defense look elite. 20 is the fewest amount of points Mount has scored in a game since the 2021 semis.

I hope that Alma shuts out mighty Cortland St and JHU/RMC on their way to the Stagg, but I think that it was more likely predictable play calling, poor preparation and arrogance that led to Alma's "elite" defense day

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Interesting nugget that I just found from Coach Dartt's bio:

QuoteIn five years as offensive coordinator, his unit has led the nation in nine different statistical categories including leading the nation in scoring three times.

I'm sure that was an accident though.   Hey, even a broken clock is right three times in five years or something like that.

was he also the head coach at the time? maybe being the CEO and calling plays is a little too much for the son-in-law?

maybe he's a better OC than HC?

I felt like one of the best offenses I saw in 30 years of following Mount was when Dartt was the OC with Taurice Scott at QB, BJ Mitchell/Logan Nemeth at RB, Namdar/Kennedy at WR. They were unpredictable and put defenses on the heels all game long. Of course that defense was nasty too. Many of the same coaches are in the program still and I believe they can get back to that. It just takes some reflection sometimes.

Dartt was a really good offesnive coordinator. He talked a lot about creating "conflicts of assignment" on defense, and ran some really interesting schemes. He was the coordinator from 2013-2016, and those offenses were awesome. The 2014 team ran an extremely up tempo zone read style offense that set a bunch of season records and put up 70+ on Wesley and then the 2015 team had similar impact.

Event Dart's playcalling in the second half of the stagg bowl was pretty good, he switched Mount Up into a jumbo two TE package and tried running the ball on NCC (which they looked totally unprepared for. 

He definitely has the talent to put together creative offensive schemes but it's frustrating that we haven't really seen that creativity much lately

I'm still at a loss how we could bring back a Gagliardi finalist, his top receiver and the team's starting running back and somehow regress on offense. I'm wondering if we lost key O line players from last year that I don't remember

Mount did not.  Brought back a T, G and C on the OL.  Carson Barrett was a preseason AA at OG, but he was replaced by Kennedy, who was fantastic all year and first team all OAC.  Mount made the Stagg Bowl with a TE playing RT for the second half of last season.  The OL should have been much, much better in '23 than '22.  OT Cange was a starter early on in '22 before injury. 

80% of OL returning (other 20% was 1st team OAC) and all americans at QB, WR, RB....I wonder what could have been the issue?

Yeah... that's pretty wild. I would have felt different if Alma came into the game with a highly ranked defense that exposed Mount's Offensive shortfall, but the fact they were #36 in scoring D, 35th rushing D, Out of the top 50 in total D and 44th in Passing D is just so strange. They certainly looked like an elite D on Saturday. I'm verrry curious to see how they play against Cortland, maybe their D is just peaking at the right time.

Elite is not the word that I would use.  Mount attempting 3 FG in a non-blowout game is not very common.  Mount having 270 yards at the half and only 10 points is something, 99 plays and 20 points is wild.  The other team is supposed to play scared in Alliance, not the Purple Raiders

I'm saying despite their non elite stats coming into the game, the way Mount's offense was unable to score made Alma's defense look elite. 20 is the fewest amount of points Mount has scored in a game since the 2021 semis.

I hope that Alma shuts out mighty Cortland St and JHU/RMC on their way to the Stagg, but I think that it was more likely predictable play calling, poor preparation and arrogance that led to Alma's "elite" defense day

You forgot the real.main reason...I'll say it on e again (and no disrespect ro Mount's team) the players simply did not get the job done that day. Alma did, plain and simple.
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

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Not getting it done on Saturday is a symptom not a cause IMO. This particular offense struggled (for Mount standards) several times throughout the season.

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https://twitter.com/Quick6Wayne/status/1730684513980756115/photo/1




Wayne Ruby pens a thank you letter to his family, coaches, teammates and Mount Union.  Thanks four Mount Union coaches by name...but one name seems to be missing...hmmm

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Wayne Ruby pens a thank you letter to his family, coaches, teammates and Mount Union.  Thanks four Mount Union coaches by name...but one name seems to be missing...hmmm

D3fanboy,

I truly hope Wayne gets a shot in the NFL and even drafted. An invite to the Combine in Indy will be a key sign.
Regarding naming the Coaches, this comes as no surprise to me. ::)

Thanks for posting his farewell message+
13 time Division III National Champions

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Wayne Ruby pens a thank you letter to his family, coaches, teammates and Mount Union.  Thanks four Mount Union coaches by name...but one name seems to be missing...hmmm

D3fanboy,

I truly hope Wayne gets a shot in the NFL and even drafted. An invite to the Combine in Indy will be a key sign.
Regarding naming the Coaches, this comes as no surprise to me. ::)

Thanks for posting his farewell message+

If you listen to the D3 guys, Wayne and Mount should be so lucky to have the unnamed coach.  I mean he's 42-3....