FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[raiderpa]

Congrats to Cortland!  What an exciting game. I still wonder why NC went for two on the conversion with three minutes to go.  Perehaps he did not think they could stop the Dragons in OT, or wanted to give his D the incentive to hang on to the end.  I agree that Mount could not have hung with either team and Grove City is wondering what could have been.  Still, a champion was crowned on the field and the "upset" gives hope to many DIII football teams.  Can't wait til next year.  Thanks Pat and the DIII team for another amazing season.  Merry Christmas!!

[edward de vere]

Congrats to Cortland!  What an exciting game. I still wonder why NC went for two on the conversion with three minutes to go.

Yeah, that was weird.  Has he stated his reasoning? 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Congrats to Cortland!  What an exciting game. I still wonder why NC went for two on the conversion with three minutes to go.

Yeah, that was weird.  Has he stated his reasoning?

He did.  He said he thought they had the momentum.  They just had a 3 play 65 yard drive for a TD.  They hadn't shown many 2 pt Conversions on film this year and he had full confidence they could get 3 yards.  He said his only regret was the play call after the Timeout.

[bluestreak66]

Congrats to Cortland!  What an exciting game. I still wonder why NC went for two on the conversion with three minutes to go.

Yeah, that was weird.  Has he stated his reasoning?

He did.  He said he thought they had the momentum.  They just had a 3 play 65 yard drive for a TD.  They hadn't shown many 2 pt Conversions on film this year and he had full confidence they could get 3 yards.  He said his only regret was the play call after the Timeout.

From my perspective, I didn't like the call because there was still so much time on the clock (at least with the way Cortland was moving the ball), and being up by one gets you no favors if the the other team gets into field goal range (which again, seemed like a real possibility with how Cortland's offense was moving), and missing and being down by one almost ensures a loss. Like if there had been 15 seconds left, you could chalk it up as high risk, high reward. But going for two with over a minute seemed like an unnecessary gamble.
For what its worth, I was watching the game at an official NCC watch party with several alums, and they all seemed to hate the call even before the ball was snapped
On a different note, in a weird way, Cortland winning the whole thing I feel like gives a certain sense of hope to the rest of the division. Like if a random team like that can win, maybe any random team (with in reason of course) can win!

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Congrats to Cortland!  What an exciting game. I still wonder why NC went for two on the conversion with three minutes to go.

Yeah, that was weird.  Has he stated his reasoning?

He did.  He said he thought they had the momentum.  They just had a 3 play 65 yard drive for a TD.  They hadn't shown many 2 pt Conversions on film this year and he had full confidence they could get 3 yards.  He said his only regret was the play call after the Timeout.

From my perspective, I didn't like the call because there was still so much time on the clock (at least with the way Cortland was moving the ball), and being up by one gets you no favors if the the other team gets into field goal range (which again, seemed like a real possibility with how Cortland's offense was moving), and missing and being down by one almost ensures a loss. Like if there had been 15 seconds left, you could chalk it up as high risk, high reward. But going for two with over a minute seemed like an unnecessary gamble.
For what its worth, I was watching the game at an official NCC watch party with several alums, and they all seemed to hate the call even before the ball was snapped
On a different note, in a weird way, Cortland winning the whole thing I feel like gives a certain sense of hope to the rest of the division. Like if a random team like that can win, maybe any random team (with in reason of course) can win!

I agree.  The Athletic Trainer for my HS is a NCC Grad and he and I were texting during the game.  I would have kicked the XPT and taken my chances with the remaining time in regulation and possible OT.

[D3fanboy]

Congrats to Cortland!  What an exciting game. I still wonder why NC went for two on the conversion with three minutes to go.

Yeah, that was weird.  Has he stated his reasoning?

He did.  He said he thought they had the momentum.  They just had a 3 play 65 yard drive for a TD.  They hadn't shown many 2 pt Conversions on film this year and he had full confidence they could get 3 yards.  He said his only regret was the play call after the Timeout.

From my perspective, I didn't like the call because there was still so much time on the clock (at least with the way Cortland was moving the ball), and being up by one gets you no favors if the the other team gets into field goal range (which again, seemed like a real possibility with how Cortland's offense was moving), and missing and being down by one almost ensures a loss. Like if there had been 15 seconds left, you could chalk it up as high risk, high reward. But going for two with over a minute seemed like an unnecessary gamble.
For what its worth, I was watching the game at an official NCC watch party with several alums, and they all seemed to hate the call even before the ball was snapped
On a different note, in a weird way, Cortland winning the whole thing I feel like gives a certain sense of hope to the rest of the division. Like if a random team like that can win, maybe any random team (with in reason of course) can win!

I agree.  The Athletic Trainer for my HS is a NCC Grad and he and I were texting during the game.  I would have kicked the XPT and taken my chances with the remaining time in regulation and possible OT.

The NCC kicking game has been really shaky all season, 15 missed XP for the season.  I think that Spencer had already made up his mind that they were going for two with a score on that drive, but then scored in 15 secs.  It sure looked like the first 2 pt play call was going to be successful, but calling a QB sweep to the short side of the field with a numbers mismatch....

[Pat Coleman]

Congrats to Cortland!  What an exciting game. I still wonder why NC went for two on the conversion with three minutes to go.  Perehaps he did not think they could stop the Dragons in OT, or wanted to give his D the incentive to hang on to the end.

It was only 80 seconds left, for what it's worth.

[raiderpa]

My bad...I thought there was much more time on the clock after the two point try.  The fact that there was 80 seconds makes me surely go for the kick and try to win in OT.  Both QB's were amazing, was interesting that the Cortland coach said after the game that his Qb should have won the Gagliardi....I don't disagree as he is sticking up for his kid, but from what I saw, they were both deserving.  Some folks do not know, however, that there is more to the award than just play on the field, and this could be a deciding factor in a close vote.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Watching the National Championship Game, I was thinking that Athletically Mount Union could play with those two teams.  I think what is missing is teamwork and passion.

In the past, the team was very Self-Confident and showed it in their play.  Now that Mount has come back to the field a bit, and others have improved, you can't just step on the field and hope the other teams piss down their legs.

Mount needs to get some swagger back, as well as the focus that LK/VK had instilled in the team.  Coaches can give all the speeches they want, but the best "Culture" teams I have been around (as a Coach's son, a player and a Coach) have been player led.

Key Upperclassmen on Offense and Defense need to take the lead in the offseason and bring back the mojo of Raiders past.

[D3fanboy]

Watching the National Championship Game, I was thinking that Athletically Mount Union could play with those two teams.  I think what is missing is teamwork and passion.

In the past, the team was very Self-Confident and showed it in their play.  Now that Mount has come back to the field a bit, and others have improved, you can't just step on the field and hope the other teams piss down their legs.

Mount needs to get some swagger back, as well as the focus that LK/VK had instilled in the team.  Coaches can give all the speeches they want, but the best "Culture" teams I have been around (as a Coach's son, a player and a Coach) have been player led.

Key Upperclassmen on Offense and Defense need to take the lead in the offseason and bring back the mojo of Raiders past.

I wish that "The Standard" would go the way of the "Welcome to the Machine" playoff banner.  Neither is true any longer and like you said nobody is scared to play these Raiders.  That could change back in the future seasons, but these kids need to earn it.  The swagger needs to be there against the best competition, not just the Wilmingtons and Otterbeins of the D3 landscape. 

I've joked with my buddies that covid might have killed the Mount program.  We've had basically the same really talented team for 4 years, but I'm not sure that they ever got much better over that 4 year stretch.  Kind of stagnant. Was is lack of player leadership?  Lack of toughness? Coaching not up to the program's typical level? Lack of institutional help, i.e. Hire a Strength and Conditioning coach?

It has been a weird era with covid-years in D3FB, hopefully its almost over and we'll be back to four year players instead of 23/24 year olds on the field.  But with the transfer portal, I don't know that we'll ever be back to true D3 football

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Watching the National Championship Game, I was thinking that Athletically Mount Union could play with those two teams.  I think what is missing is teamwork and passion.

In the past, the team was very Self-Confident and showed it in their play.  Now that Mount has come back to the field a bit, and others have improved, you can't just step on the field and hope the other teams piss down their legs.

Mount needs to get some swagger back, as well as the focus that LK/VK had instilled in the team.  Coaches can give all the speeches they want, but the best "Culture" teams I have been around (as a Coach's son, a player and a Coach) have been player led.

Key Upperclassmen on Offense and Defense need to take the lead in the offseason and bring back the mojo of Raiders past.

I wish that "The Standard" would go the way of the "Welcome to the Machine" playoff banner.  Neither is true any longer and like you said nobody is scared to play these Raiders.  That could change back in the future seasons, but these kids need to earn it.  The swagger needs to be there against the best competition, not just the Wilmingtons and Otterbeins of the D3 landscape. 

I've joked with my buddies that covid might have killed the Mount program.  We've had basically the same really talented team for 4 years, but I'm not sure that they ever got much better over that 4 year stretch.  Kind of stagnant. Was is lack of player leadership?  Lack of toughness? Coaching not up to the program's typical level? Lack of institutional help, i.e. Hire a Strength and Conditioning coach?

It has been a weird era with covid-years in D3FB, hopefully its almost over and we'll be back to four year players instead of 23/24 year olds on the field.  But with the transfer portal, I don't know that we'll ever be back to true D3 football

Who has run the S&C program recently?

[D3fanboy]

Watching the National Championship Game, I was thinking that Athletically Mount Union could play with those two teams.  I think what is missing is teamwork and passion.

In the past, the team was very Self-Confident and showed it in their play.  Now that Mount has come back to the field a bit, and others have improved, you can't just step on the field and hope the other teams piss down their legs.

Mount needs to get some swagger back, as well as the focus that LK/VK had instilled in the team.  Coaches can give all the speeches they want, but the best "Culture" teams I have been around (as a Coach's son, a player and a Coach) have been player led.

Key Upperclassmen on Offense and Defense need to take the lead in the offseason and bring back the mojo of Raiders past.

I wish that "The Standard" would go the way of the "Welcome to the Machine" playoff banner.  Neither is true any longer and like you said nobody is scared to play these Raiders.  That could change back in the future seasons, but these kids need to earn it.  The swagger needs to be there against the best competition, not just the Wilmingtons and Otterbeins of the D3 landscape. 

I've joked with my buddies that covid might have killed the Mount program.  We've had basically the same really talented team for 4 years, but I'm not sure that they ever got much better over that 4 year stretch.  Kind of stagnant. Was is lack of player leadership?  Lack of toughness? Coaching not up to the program's typical level? Lack of institutional help, i.e. Hire a Strength and Conditioning coach?

It has been a weird era with covid-years in D3FB, hopefully its almost over and we'll be back to four year players instead of 23/24 year olds on the field.  But with the transfer portal, I don't know that we'll ever be back to true D3 football

Who has run the S&C program recently?

according to https://athletics.mountunion.edu/staff-directory

its probably a part-time position...for the entire athletic department.  Good luck finding that at any other top D3fb program, let alone "the standard"

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Watching the National Championship Game, I was thinking that Athletically Mount Union could play with those two teams.  I think what is missing is teamwork and passion.

In the past, the team was very Self-Confident and showed it in their play.  Now that Mount has come back to the field a bit, and others have improved, you can't just step on the field and hope the other teams piss down their legs.

Mount needs to get some swagger back, as well as the focus that LK/VK had instilled in the team.  Coaches can give all the speeches they want, but the best "Culture" teams I have been around (as a Coach's son, a player and a Coach) have been player led.

Key Upperclassmen on Offense and Defense need to take the lead in the offseason and bring back the mojo of Raiders past.

I wish that "The Standard" would go the way of the "Welcome to the Machine" playoff banner.  Neither is true any longer and like you said nobody is scared to play these Raiders.  That could change back in the future seasons, but these kids need to earn it.  The swagger needs to be there against the best competition, not just the Wilmingtons and Otterbeins of the D3 landscape. 

I've joked with my buddies that covid might have killed the Mount program.  We've had basically the same really talented team for 4 years, but I'm not sure that they ever got much better over that 4 year stretch.  Kind of stagnant. Was is lack of player leadership?  Lack of toughness? Coaching not up to the program's typical level? Lack of institutional help, i.e. Hire a Strength and Conditioning coach?

It has been a weird era with covid-years in D3FB, hopefully its almost over and we'll be back to four year players instead of 23/24 year olds on the field.  But with the transfer portal, I don't know that we'll ever be back to true D3 football

Who has run the S&C program recently?

according to https://athletics.mountunion.edu/staff-directory

its probably a part-time position...for the entire athletic department.  Good luck finding that at any other top D3fb program, let alone "the standard"

I'm assuming that the Football coaches run their own specific program.

[D3fanboy]

Watching the National Championship Game, I was thinking that Athletically Mount Union could play with those two teams.  I think what is missing is teamwork and passion.

In the past, the team was very Self-Confident and showed it in their play.  Now that Mount has come back to the field a bit, and others have improved, you can't just step on the field and hope the other teams piss down their legs.

Mount needs to get some swagger back, as well as the focus that LK/VK had instilled in the team.  Coaches can give all the speeches they want, but the best "Culture" teams I have been around (as a Coach's son, a player and a Coach) have been player led.

Key Upperclassmen on Offense and Defense need to take the lead in the offseason and bring back the mojo of Raiders past.

I wish that "The Standard" would go the way of the "Welcome to the Machine" playoff banner.  Neither is true any longer and like you said nobody is scared to play these Raiders.  That could change back in the future seasons, but these kids need to earn it.  The swagger needs to be there against the best competition, not just the Wilmingtons and Otterbeins of the D3 landscape. 

I've joked with my buddies that covid might have killed the Mount program.  We've had basically the same really talented team for 4 years, but I'm not sure that they ever got much better over that 4 year stretch.  Kind of stagnant. Was is lack of player leadership?  Lack of toughness? Coaching not up to the program's typical level? Lack of institutional help, i.e. Hire a Strength and Conditioning coach?

It has been a weird era with covid-years in D3FB, hopefully its almost over and we'll be back to four year players instead of 23/24 year olds on the field.  But with the transfer portal, I don't know that we'll ever be back to true D3 football

Who has run the S&C program recently?

according to https://athletics.mountunion.edu/staff-directory

its probably a part-time position...for the entire athletic department.  Good luck finding that at any other top D3fb program, let alone "the standard"

I'm assuming that the Football coaches run their own specific program.

I'm sure. I think I heard something about Klaus being the S/C for football.  I guess you just get green eyes for other D3 programs having S/C coaches, offensive coordinators, things like that

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Watching the National Championship Game, I was thinking that Athletically Mount Union could play with those two teams.  I think what is missing is teamwork and passion.

In the past, the team was very Self-Confident and showed it in their play.  Now that Mount has come back to the field a bit, and others have improved, you can't just step on the field and hope the other teams piss down their legs.

Mount needs to get some swagger back, as well as the focus that LK/VK had instilled in the team.  Coaches can give all the speeches they want, but the best "Culture" teams I have been around (as a Coach's son, a player and a Coach) have been player led.

Key Upperclassmen on Offense and Defense need to take the lead in the offseason and bring back the mojo of Raiders past.

I wish that "The Standard" would go the way of the "Welcome to the Machine" playoff banner.  Neither is true any longer and like you said nobody is scared to play these Raiders.  That could change back in the future seasons, but these kids need to earn it.  The swagger needs to be there against the best competition, not just the Wilmingtons and Otterbeins of the D3 landscape. 

I've joked with my buddies that covid might have killed the Mount program.  We've had basically the same really talented team for 4 years, but I'm not sure that they ever got much better over that 4 year stretch.  Kind of stagnant. Was is lack of player leadership?  Lack of toughness? Coaching not up to the program's typical level? Lack of institutional help, i.e. Hire a Strength and Conditioning coach?

It has been a weird era with covid-years in D3FB, hopefully its almost over and we'll be back to four year players instead of 23/24 year olds on the field.  But with the transfer portal, I don't know that we'll ever be back to true D3 football

Who has run the S&C program recently?

according to https://athletics.mountunion.edu/staff-directory

its probably a part-time position...for the entire athletic department.  Good luck finding that at any other top D3fb program, let alone "the standard"

I'm assuming that the Football coaches run their own specific program.

I'm sure. I think I heard something about Klaus being the S/C for football.  I guess you just get green eyes for other D3 programs having S/C coaches, offensive coordinators, things like that

LOL