FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[WRMUalum13]

Peak competitiveness among two top teams, anyway.

I'm sure that you'll use Logan's stats and and PR type of answer, but you really think that today's national champs would stand a chance against those UWW/Mount teams from the decade plus of dominance?

Imagine the UFL signings from those teams if it was a thing.... you'd be tweeting non-stop

This is completely anecdotal evidence on my part but I played against UWW in 2010 quarters when they won the title, we ended up losing 20-10 after entering the 4th qtr with a 10-7 lead.  Same amount Mount lost by in the Stagg a few weeks later, granted we were at home and not neutral field like Mount. I also played @ UWW in 2007 but that game was not as competitive. 

IMO, the NCC teams of the past few years would've crushed the teams I was on, in part due to the fact they had a bunch of 22-24 year olds.  Not saying they would beat those Mount or UWW teams but I at least think it would've been competitive given that these teams since 2020 have had a bunch of 5th/6th year players and it was pretty rare back then.

Fully agree both Mount and UWW were amazingly talented during that era, just offering my personal experience for comparison. 

The age thing makes a lot of sense, but it also feels like those Mount / UWW teams had a lot more NFL prospects than this current NCC dynasty, Not sure that's a perfect metric for talent though.

[Fido0650]

I think Marcus Freeman(ND) would give Geoff Dartt a run for his money in gum chomping.
Congrats to the Buckeyes!
National Champions once again!!

[BergAlum2]

Happy the Buckeyes won! 

-They wont win again till the next time they change the playoff format 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I think Colleges should have to publish their NIL payments like the Pro Sports do with Salaries.  We could really see who is putting out the $$$$.

[Dr. Acula]

It'd definitely be interesting.  I wonder if/when the athletes become employees of the schools it will be public as it is (or used to be at least) for all state employees?  There used to be a database where you could look up state employees, teachers, etc.  Basically anyone funded by tax dollars.  I showed it to one of my buddies that worked at OSU and he texted me the next day telling me he spent his entire day at work looking up what other people at OSU made. 

[D3fanboy]

It'd definitely be interesting.  I wonder if/when the athletes become employees of the schools it will be public as it is (or used to be at least) for all state employees?  There used to be a database where you could look up state employees, teachers, etc.  Basically anyone funded by tax dollars.  I showed it to one of my buddies that worked at OSU and he texted me the next day telling me he spent his entire day at work looking up what other people at OSU made. 

https://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/

[D3fanboy]

in transfer news, Mount picks up a CB from Trine.  Konstantine (Kosta) Thrasivoulou is North Ridgeville native and multi-year starter for Trine with 4 career INT. 

I just wish Joe Tait was still around to call this young man's name.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

in transfer news, Mount picks up a CB from Trine.  Konstantine (Kosta) Thrasivoulou is North Ridgeville native and multi-year starter for Trine with 4 career INT. 

I just wish Joe Tait was still around to call this young man's name.

We've got a big greek community in my area.  This year our starting Right Guards name was:  Mihail Aivatoglou

[WRMUalum13]

It'd definitely be interesting.  I wonder if/when the athletes become employees of the schools it will be public as it is (or used to be at least) for all state employees?  There used to be a database where you could look up state employees, teachers, etc.  Basically anyone funded by tax dollars.  I showed it to one of my buddies that worked at OSU and he texted me the next day telling me he spent his entire day at work looking up what other people at OSU made.

Keep in mind the schools are not actually paying these players. They are getting paid by outside organizations for the value of their "name image and likeness" for promotional purposes

[D3fanboy]

It'd definitely be interesting.  I wonder if/when the athletes become employees of the schools it will be public as it is (or used to be at least) for all state employees?  There used to be a database where you could look up state employees, teachers, etc.  Basically anyone funded by tax dollars.  I showed it to one of my buddies that worked at OSU and he texted me the next day telling me he spent his entire day at work looking up what other people at OSU made.

Keep in mind the schools are not actually paying these players. They are getting paid by outside organizations for the value of their "name image and likeness" for promotional purposes

for now.  Revenue sharing is coming very, very soon

lets hope that the professionalism of the top level of college sports doesnt leak all the way down to D3.  but I'm not hopeful

[Dr. Acula]

Exactly.  IMO the biggest remaining hurdle between the farce of the players getting paid for NIL only and being an employee on payroll is the universities/NCAA still laughably claiming the athletes are not employees just amateur athletes.  Eventually I would think it ends in revenue sharing where the university sets aside a % of their athletics revenue for player payroll.  NIL could still be paid in addition to that I'd imagine so the gap between the haves and have nots will remain, but it sets a floor for everyone. 

[D3fanboy]

Exactly.  IMO the biggest remaining hurdle between the farce of the players getting paid for NIL only and being an employee on payroll is the universities/NCAA still laughably claiming the athletes are not employees just amateur athletes.  Eventually I would think it ends in revenue sharing where the university sets aside a % of their athletics revenue for player payroll.  NIL could still be paid in addition to that I'd imagine so the gap between the haves and have nots will remain, but it sets a floor for everyone. 

Hopefully UMHB gets out of D3 before that is approved.  Handing out old Subarus in the shadows is one thing, I doubt anyone could keep up with the legal handouts down there.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

It'd definitely be interesting.  I wonder if/when the athletes become employees of the schools it will be public as it is (or used to be at least) for all state employees?  There used to be a database where you could look up state employees, teachers, etc.  Basically anyone funded by tax dollars.  I showed it to one of my buddies that worked at OSU and he texted me the next day telling me he spent his entire day at work looking up what other people at OSU made.

Keep in mind the schools are not actually paying these players. They are getting paid by outside organizations for the value of their "name image and likeness" for promotional purposes

for now.  Revenue sharing is coming very, very soon

lets hope that the professionalism of the top level of college sports doesnt leak all the way down to D3.  but I'm not hopeful

It'd definitely be interesting.  I wonder if/when the athletes become employees of the schools it will be public as it is (or used to be at least) for all state employees?  There used to be a database where you could look up state employees, teachers, etc.  Basically anyone funded by tax dollars.  I showed it to one of my buddies that worked at OSU and he texted me the next day telling me he spent his entire day at work looking up what other people at OSU made.

Keep in mind the schools are not actually paying these players. They are getting paid by outside organizations for the value of their "name image and likeness" for promotional purposes

for now.  Revenue sharing is coming very, very soon

lets hope that the professionalism of the top level of college sports doesnt leak all the way down to D3.  but I'm not hopeful

I spoke with a College coach the other day when he was on campus on a recruiting trip.  He said the reason these kids are getting massive deals right now is the "Collectives" have until this spring to spend their war chest of riches because the revenue sharing changes coming this year.

[Nate Riley]

I spoke with a College coach the other day when he was on campus on a recruiting trip.  He said the reason these kids are getting massive deals right now is the "Collectives" have until this spring to spend their war chest of riches because the revenue sharing changes coming this year.
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Bingo, it's the "collective" not just NIL where the majority of these athletes are getting paid. The collective comes from mainly boosters/alum/business of the school that raises funds specifically for athletics.

[WRMUalum13]

Exactly.  IMO the biggest remaining hurdle between the farce of the players getting paid for NIL only and being an employee on payroll is the universities/NCAA still laughably claiming the athletes are not employees just amateur athletes.  Eventually I would think it ends in revenue sharing where the university sets aside a % of their athletics revenue for player payroll.  NIL could still be paid in addition to that I'd imagine so the gap between the haves and have nots will remain, but it sets a floor for everyone. 

It'd definitely be interesting.  I wonder if/when the athletes become employees of the schools it will be public as it is (or used to be at least) for all state employees?  There used to be a database where you could look up state employees, teachers, etc.  Basically anyone funded by tax dollars.  I showed it to one of my buddies that worked at OSU and he texted me the next day telling me he spent his entire day at work looking up what other people at OSU made.

Keep in mind the schools are not actually paying these players. They are getting paid by outside organizations for the value of their "name image and likeness" for promotional purposes

for now.  Revenue sharing is coming very, very soon

lets hope that the professionalism of the top level of college sports doesnt leak all the way down to D3.  but I'm not hopeful

Hopefully UMHB gets out of D3 before that is approved.  Handing out old Subarus in the shadows is one thing, I doubt anyone could keep up with the legal handouts down there.

There's not enough money in D3 athletics for it to leak down this far! It's $25 to go to a championship game for pete's sake.

Sure, there are a few kids making a little off of true NIL deals, like on opendorse, but I'm not seeing 6 figure payrolls or anything in D3... ever.

I mean there aren't even very good NIL deals at the top levels of FCS as far as I can tell. There just isn't a big enough donor base. I doubt MAC football players are even getting very much NIL.

Many MAC schools don't even operate a profitable athletic department, so profit sharing wouldn't even work. Kent State for example lost over 1 million dollars on athletics last year.