FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[HScoach]

The results for week 10 and the games for week 11 have been posted in the OAC Pick-Em's page

[jdean]

Toph:
If JCU knows about this supposed treatment LK gives JCU, why in the heck did they drop to their knees and let Mount
have their way. He was probably running play-action at 63-0 because it was obvious your guys needed work on defending it. See, LK is always thinking of what is best for JCU.  Feel the love?

[reality check]

Usually, at least the place I come from called reality, when one teams beats the other team, that means they are better.

Alright RP, I guess that means ONU is better than Mount.  Your point is clear and obviosuly not flawed.

[jdean]

Alright RP, I guess that means ONU is better than Mount. 

They certainly were on Oct 22.

[rp]

Check, yes on that day Ohio Northern was better, because they won.  (I feel like I am talking to 3rd grades on here, serioulsy.  Do you really pretend to know and openly talk football like your know what your talking about?)

Listen Toph and Check, since the both of you don't understand the simplicity of this I will try and use an example, an easy one at that, so I can try and make it easier for you    um- K?

Last year in the Big Ten Michigan had one loss.  Iowa had one loss as well.  However, guess who went to the Rose Bowl?  And why did Michigan get the BCS bid and the bowl game?  Because when they played Iowa on the field, Michigan won the game and won the head to head.

Now, if Penn State and Ohio State both finish the season this year 9-1, guess who goes to the BCS bowl game?  Penn State.  Why?  Because when they played Ohio State on the field, Penn State won the game and won the head to head.

Now, hypothetically speaking, just for fun, let's say the playoff committee said that this year, they are going to take the second place team in the OAC this year, no matter what the record, they are going to get in because they think so highly of the OAC.

If you are on that committee, and you are looking at three teams with the same record at 8-2, and one of those teams beat the other two, what does common sense tell you?

Like I said.  If they don't get in, it is because they got beat by Otterbein, and have nobody to blame for that loss expect the person in the mirror.  But if you are going to tell me that the other two teams have just as much right to go to the playoffs as Cap because they are all 8-2, I would tell you to back into your room and snort some more of that crank. 

And Toph, at least Capital had a chance against Mount.  Your best shot at them was before kickoff.  After that, it was pretty much over...  And don't tell me about LK and his disliking of JCU.  Show up, play ball, and try and win.   Apparently you couldn't do that and 70 points later, your cry'n me a river because "LK was run'n play action passes when he was up 63-0"  Give me a break.  You guys got whipped!  Cap is 8-2...And whether they get into the playoffs or not because that Otterbein game, the fact still remains.  Cap beat your team! ..  And Nothern for that matter!

[Toph]

RP-
Using D1 examples for D3 is probably not the best approach.  This isn't an attmept to figure out who should be in first (or even second) place in the OAC, like your Big Ten example.  This is about the playoffs and whether or not Capital is going to get in.  The point is that a 2 loss team isn't getting in the playoffs from the OAC, especially not when there are two other 2 loss teams. 

Besides, your own logic says that Capital doesn't get in.  If a team beats another team, they're better right?  Otterbein is better than Capital then, and the better team should go to the playoffs, right?

Also, you're right, Phillips is a terrible QB.  Clearly the entire season leading up to Saturday was just a fluke.

[purpled]

The only team I care about going to the playoffs is Mount and let the rest of the OAC duke it out.

In this case I have to agree with rp...should there be another team from the OAC go then it should be Capital. All 3 have lost 2 games but head-to-head CAP comes out ahead. What happens on the field is the only real thing that counts.

[Toph]

purpled-
This is where I think the misunderstanding lies.  This isn't about whether or not another team from the OAC should get in (the argument can be made that all three teams should be in), it's whether or not they will get in.  None of the two lossers are in.  I just like shooting holes in rp's argument.

[MountFan08]

I would like to see two OAC teams in the playoffs.  However, with three teams at 8-2 its going to be tough.  Capital at 8-2 has the advantage with wins over JCU and ONU but that Otterbein loss will haunt them.  I'll take nothing away from Otterbein, they've had a great year but that was a bit of a fluke win for them.  Capital is a great team and deserves consideration for the playoffs but with two losses it'll be tough.  If they would have beat Otterbein they easily would have made it.  I'll agree with rp on this one, Cap won't get in to the playoffs based on the Otterbein loss.  And its a shame too, because the OAC really deserved two teams in the playoffs this  because of the great competition and the fact that it is the toughest conference in all of Division III.

[purpled]

Toph,

Any team that has 2 losses and makes the playoffs should consider itself very lucky. And with ONU's situation wouldn't it come down to either JCU or CAP?

[2minuteO]

I just think at this point and time we are all spectators.  The majority of us do not have a vote and should simply leave it up to those who do.  I think it is going to be a "gameday decision".  My hat is off to whoever makes the final one.  The OAC this year has been full of great competition.  I think the OAC has the top 4 teams in the country.  As many know Mount is our only lock and then it leaves us with 3 hoping and dreaming. What a perfect world it would be if all 3 went lolololol.

[b4uknewit]

GUEST--I agree with your begining 2 sentences. I do not agree with the OAC has the 4 best teams in the country. Anyways, my Packers lost again and I shall drink myself to oblivien  (SP) .

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

The majority of us do not have a vote and should simply leave it up to those who do.

I disagree. Isn't the point of "Post Patterns" for everyone to be able to discuss their opinions about D3Football?

[reality check]

For what it's worth...

There are currently 23 teams in the top 25 with one loss of less.  There is also Ferrum at 9-0, Hobart at 8-1, Monmouth at 10-0, RPI at 7-1 but has a tough game that will make or break them, Cortland State that is 6-2 but might be NJAC's autobid, an MIAA champ to be determined, Cal Lutheran at 7-1, Huntingdon at 7-1 as an IND, DePauw at 7-1 and needing the Bell game to make the playoffs.  I might still be missing some Pool A's that have 2 or more  losses but the point I see is that right now there are 32 teams ahead of any of the 2 loss OAC teams.  I know the last week can change a lot of this current list but it is what it is as of Sunday night.  Things look grim for any of the OAC 8-2 teams.

[seventiesraider]

 A quick review of the cummulative stats for QB's doesn't do much for the case for either Phillips or Pentello, in fact despite leading his team past some tough opponets, Rocky's numbers aren't really that good. Phillips has the most TD's but also the most picks if you just focus on the front runners. Jorris has the best completion percentage, least int's, most yards and best efficency. Sorry, but I still don't think Jorris is getting the recognition he deserves. He has had some bad games, yet here he is at the top of most stat columns. And without his favorite receiver most of the second half of the season.