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[seventiesraider]

Here's hoping the "big schools" he checks out are Walsh and Malone and that the folks point out the financial reality of attending "Dear Old M.U.C." (MTU For those hung up on NCAA abbreviations)

Note to the parents: Buy him a nice new car to drive between Louisville and Alliance.

[purple]

 Reality Check...you need a reality check! D3 beneath him?Please.You think any frosh will just come in and start? Beat out who?Know a lot of freshman who start for good D3 teams?Fact is football is a year round sport a D1 and D2 schools and it isn't at D3 schools,which are much more interested in the development of the person than the football player.My great high school coach;Jim Reichenbaugh,who played for Woody and Paul Brown,always pointed this out.He was very concerned we have a good college experience and not end up sick of the game he loved.

[b4uknewit]

Purple-- I'm confident RC is well aware of pretty much of what goes into D-3 football  I certainly admire your enthusiasum as always

[reality check]

b4uknewit

Glad some people wearing purple and black have a sense of humor and can read online wit.

Everyone

There is a daily dose topic pertaining to the SID's in division III at the top of the main page.  As an individual who hopes to one day work in college sports administration full-time, I appreciated the comments and reading the blogs attached.  If you are not familiar with the roles that SID's take on, especially the depth to which SID's at Division III schools are involved, I recommend you check it out.  I will defend SID's at all times because I know how thin these guys are spread, often being the only full-time staffer or accompanied by a G.A. at most.  These guys bust their butts at all levels of NCAA athletics but especially at D-III institutions.  I came to college not having a clue what an SID was; I left college hoping to someday have that title.  SID's across the board have my respect a million times over.  If you read it and learn a thing or two then remember to thank them for the work they do whether you see them at a basketball game this week or next fall for football.

[reality check]

Purple

Fact is football is a year round sport a D1 and D2 schools and it isn't at D3 schools,

If you don't think football is a year-round activity at the better schools or even the average schools in division III, then I wonder if you know anything yourself about division III football.  When you say it's not a year-round activity to the kids who are getting up at 5:30 in the morning for off-season conditioning, I want to be there.  I played in a good high school program that was slightly less time-consuming than ONU's program and I would consider it a year-round schedule as well.  Having a few weeks off at the end of the season from lifting and position meetings doesn't make it a non year-round schedule, it means you get a four week break in the year.

[seventiesraider]

Dang, Jamere Holland picked USC over Mount Union. Oh well, he'll always have his Raiders hat to remember his lost chance to be a national champion

BTW: There are two LB's from Louisville listed in the top 100 prospects who didn't sign yesterday.

[2minuteO]

Purple... that probably is the worst post that I have ever read on here.. As a former d-3 play I am insulted.  The d-3 players is always busy with football.. There is spring ball and there is morning and afternoon conditioning.  I dont know what d-3 school you are talking about, but obviously it isnt anyone that i have heard of b4.  D-3 football gets alot out of its players.   A person really has to have the passion to play d-3 football.. there are no scholarships and we play for the love of the game.. Purple better start doing some research

[formerd3db]

2minute and reality check:
I was going to make a reply about the poster's comment regardomg DIII football not being "a year round sport" but didn't.  I'm glad you both commented because you are absolutely correct.  Anyone who thinks it is not a year round commitment at this level is not being realistic and/or doesn't know what they're talking about; and if it is a player, it is highly unlikely they'll survive to achieve their goals (while it not might be "year round" is that sense for those student-athletes who participate in two sports at the DIII level, it is just even more of a commitment to accomplish that while at the same time keeping their grades up).  Bottom line is, that while we play/played for the love of the game at this level, one better believe that it indeed is/was a serious and intense year round commitment.

Also reality:  well said about SIDs.  I couldn't agree with you more.

[purple]

 Well guess what boys,football is not a year round sport at Mount Union.Come live here and be enlightened.

[reality check]

I guess Alliance is the lone exception then.  That makes Kehres' accomplishments even more impressive considering he has done so much while playing against all those schools that think football is a year-round sport.  Less is more apparently. 

I would love to hear some of the other (former) Raiders' take on this.  Would they consider football a year-round commitment or not?

[formerd3db]

purple:
No one is saying that it is "the end all, be all...".  It appears you misunderstand the context in what we are saying.  Certainly, no one expects (nor do I believe) that any player is completely and/or constantly consumed by football every waking minute in their college responsibilities or daily life in the off-season.  Obviously, there are other just as and/or more important life aspects that require one's attention and/or of their own choosing.  What we are saying though (at least in speaking for myself) is that football even at DIII is a year round commitment in dedication in keeping one's self in prime, up to date, in shape, informed, and ready to participate at the appropriate times in that sense.  And if one doesn't adhere to that, at least in part, then you'd better believe they will be less likely to achieve the goals as I mentioned (or at least it is much harder - for most people at least although admittedly, there are some who are lucky enough to get by on their natural talent alone yet in the opinion of some, by doing so it is not the same).

You mention that it is not "year round" at Mount - well, it is not in that sense either at my alma mater in the sense that you seem to imply.  You'd be surprised at ours also - certainly while there are other things going on in the fb student-athletes daily college life, indeed, they are committed to year round commitment in many aspects of the program.  That is the context I'm talking about.  We may be on the same page here, but perhaps it is a degree of semantics and slightly perspective.

[HScoach]

Jeez, if you want to be any good, football is a year-round sport in high school!  The days of working out for a few weeks before summer camp opens to get in shape (like I did) are long gone.   If you want to compete for playing time, even at lower level high schools, you better be willing to work your butt off in the weight room in the off-season.  To me, that makes football a "year-round" sport. 

Back in day when I was playing HS ball, I was pretty proud of the fact that I was the strongest kid on the team due to my 325 lb bench and the 2nd biggest at 225.  Which by the way, was soley due to growing up on a farm and throwing around 75 lb hay bales all the time, not dedication in the weight room.  15 years later as a coach and we have RB's and WR's that bench 325.  Yikes.  And those kids are in the weight room at 6:00 a.m. before school getting their off season work in. 

[JK]

Even back when I was a Capital in the bad years (93-96), football was a year round commitment.  There were a few weeks in like November, after the season ended that we took a break, but a lot of us worked out on our own at that time.  In the Spring you had conditioning and lifting.  Often the QB and RBs and WRs went out after that and threw on their own.

In the summer you were allowed to go home, but you always worked out all through the summer until camp strted in August.

I can't imagine what the "good" programs went through.

[reality check]

Some schools (which will remain nameless) have done even more extensive summer sessions. 

(I figure it would hurt less if I typed this rather than give someone else the chance.  It takes the sting away.)

[Pat Coleman]

A karma point in your direction for falling on your own virtual sword.