FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Wizardman]

Troph I have watched many OAC QB's in my time and to be honest I don't think there is much comparison.

Capital is just lucky that Rocky is about 2inches too short, or I'm confident to say he would have played DI and by this time in his career I would be watching him on sunday afternoons.

Wow, that is one of the dumbest things i've read so far. Granted, I've only seen 4 QB's, so I can't make a judgment about Pentello (yet). Height has almost nothing to do with a QB's raw talent. Sure, some QB's could use a couple extra inches to se over defenders, but that doesn't make or break a QB. I can't wait until November when I can see Rocky firsthand and prove I've seen a better QB.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Chad Henne of Michigan is just 6'2" - think Pentello would have beaten him out (the #1 hs prospect in the country in 2003 got injured; after Henne's performance as his emergency sub, he transferred)?

Pentello seems to be an excellent d3 QB, but let's get real (unless you are talking dregs of d1A, where MAYBE he would do it).  But would you rather be at Cap or the dregs of d1?

[skunks_sidekick]

Dabein.....you're a CAP homer....we get it.  But I will say other than a few idiotic statements, you have some knowledge.....so go BE a DIII proponent in this cynical world.  Love your CAP with all your heart.  By the way, I am not of the HSCOACH and RIC ilk.  Until Pentello beats the man, he is Mount's  BIOTCH.  The first set of balls he ever showed was last year in the play-off game.  Upon further reflection, I really think that was more about a hurt Mount D-Back (it was frustrating to watch that day), and BIG, talented receiver (where did that dude come from??), and a Pentello that was able to capitalize. 

Pentello is scary good.  BUT, until he beats Mount, or at least has one of those D=III moments to remember games, or has one of those early Arth games, he is not the ultimate OAC QB.  Unfair, absolutely! But, we (us purple glassed sun shaded dip****s) are spoiled, and we judge OAC QB's that way.

By the way, my previous statement about Quirk stands.  I don't think he will ever win you a game, but at best, he will never lose you one either.

[blind_side]

I didn't say he would be the best QB in DI.

And I just love seeing action on this board, and do I really beleive what I said about Rocky being able to play on Sundays? no not really but I just wanted to get my point accross on how good I really think he is.

There are many good QB's in the OAC, we are very lucky to have such a strong conference where there is virtually no down week. This number one quarterback debate should be over and we will all wait to the end of the season to see where Rocky finishes up.

And if everyone can please give me a break on my Karma, I get the point the Mt. Union fans don't like me. 

[2minuteO]

loving the passion that is being shown on the board...  some peoeple seem to be never wrong

[HScoach]

One more thing about the Gunter vs. Garcon matchup...Garcon has the height advantage by a whopping 2"...so there!  

Platooning qb's is not a good idea and I believe it hurt Mount in the 2003 Stagg Bowl.

No, what hurt MUC in 2003 was having neither QB a consistent passer.  Bit them in the 2004 semi's too.

[HScoach]

[Capital is just lucky that Rocky is about 2inches too short, or I'm confident to say he would have played DI and by this time in his career I would be watching him on sunday afternoons.

Wow, I've called an idiot for making far more intelligent and factually accurate statements than that

True.  But finding someone dumber than you doesn't instantly make you a genius.

[beenhit2hard]

From my viewpoint after beiing close to the MUC program for the last 19 years,,the  3 qb's that were the  toughest to prepare for ,,,,Arth, Franzer, Rocky.  Reason?? Arth could beat you from any place on the field with his arm strength,,,Franzer could beat you with the run,,and his arm,, and Rocky is a very good passer,,,,but not as good as the other two overalll

[cufan]

I think Rocky has the skills to make him one of the best QB's to ever play in the OAC, however, what he has lacked until last year is leadership.  Most of the other QB's mentioned appeared to be great leaders.  I think over the last 2 years Rocky has gotten much better.  IMOP Bourchart?? is clearly no.1, followed by Arth after that it depends on what color glasses you are wearing. Based on skills alone I would have Rocky in the top 5.

[onyxrook]

Best OAC Qb's I have either played against or watched in no particular order

A little advice, if you're going to list in no particular order, don't number them.  I almost flamed you on the numbers based upon your own statements.  The first time I read it, I didn't catch the 'no particular order' and went straight to the list.

[2minuteO]

Best OAC Qb's I have either played against or watched in no particular order
Pentello- clear top five in most peoples books, has to be #1 in arm strength, and accuracy...he clearly lacks some of the speed that the greats have had in the past... great escapability, but sometimes is not trusting of the pocket

Jorris-  proven leader with the ability to win close games (last years mount- cap playoff)... Arm strength is getting there, but not going to catch Pentello anytime soon... very accurate and poised in the pocket

Larlam-  very strong and allusive... he could tuck and run with no problem... he was good when it came to making the big plays on 3rd down.  Played on a very good BW 03 team.

Arth- obviously has to be mentioned because he made the show.. proven passer and leader, but not able to beat Mount.. Probably the most accurate and crisp I have ever seen in D3... another qb that made the plays when they counted on 3rd downs.. and competes with Pentello in arm strength

Bruney- fast and mobile... big play potential everytime he took the snap.. another player able to make a play in key situations.  He dominated opponents with his speed and escapability..

hopefully this is okay for your liking onyxrook

[reality check]

H.S. Coach....Stix outplayed the ONU defensive end,absolutly ate the vaunted ONU o-line,and settled once and for all who is the best DE in the OAC.

The Vaunted ONU Line???

What the hell are you talking about?  ONU lost everyone on it's O-Line coming into this season.  You think HSCoach would take Stickley over Trusnik?  He's already posted in here that he would much rather have Trusnik.  Idiot.

[reality check]

By the way, my previous statement about Quirk stands.  I don't think he will ever win you a game, but at best, he will never lose you one either.

I'm not sure what referencing your post about Quirk has to do with anything because you said he didn't have much to do with ONU winning against Mount in 2005.  I don't know who would argue that point either.  Meadows and the defense had more to do with the win.  As far as Quirk never winning or losing a game, you're totally off-base.  He HAS won games.  I'm not making him out to the the next ROCKY PENTELLO but he has won games so I disagree entirely with whatever it is you are trying to point out.

[reality check]

Someone asked about Gunter playing this week and I didn't want to ignore the question altough I honestly don't have an answer.  If I knew something I'd share it. 

[OU#25]

Pat,

It's a shame you and Keith won't be able to attend the showdown in Alliance on the 28th.  You really can't go wrong with the matchup between MHB & WW either... but something tells me the individual and team performances between MUC and CU will be of classic proportions.