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reality check

#7515
I agree with Ric and think three 9-1 teams make the playoffs but if one team is 10-0 and two are 8-2, there is no way both 8-2 teams make it unless the rest of the region is extremely weak.  If BW wins, they have the better shot IMO for the following reasons:

1.  BW comes in as the "hot team" having won 6 of their last 7 as opposed to CAP who would finish off as losers of 2 of 3.
2.  BW played Mount better than anyone has all year.
3.  Their only other loss came on the road, at the beginning of the season, in OT.
4.  CAP seems to be no better than last year and is probably a little worse but BW is definitely better than they were last year.
5.  BW this year would very much like CAP last year and CAP this year would be very much like ONU was last year regarding performance and situation.

All that said, I believe if BW wins, the order goes MUC, BW, CAP and one is a lock, two is a bit of a stretch and three is a long, long shot for a playoff spot.
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950

e_lee

I woudl think Muskingum would be a more attractive job than Heidelberg.
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Even Hiram is more attractive than Heidelberg.
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reality check

I guess making sure your final college football game is against Heidelberg is a pretty smart way to saunter off into the sunset. 

Congrats to Heacock for his 26 years at Musky.  He's seemed like a very good man from the interviews I have heard over the years.  After Saturday, that puppy kicker from Alliance gets to say he's the oldtimer in the OAC.


On a somewhat related note, I think Hiram and Heidelberg should try to get out of their season opener contracts and schedule one another so one team always gets a win every year...but then again, I wouldn't put anything past these two teams when it comes to their unrivaled futility.

The Berg is 3-46 over the last five seasons, has 3 OAC wins over that time period and has lost 35 straight. (Two of the three wins were against Etta.)

Hiram is 2-47 over the last five seasons, has one 1 NCAC win over that time period and has lost 16 straight. (Both wins were over Kenyon; once before they joined the NCAC and once after joining.)



OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950

usee

Quote from: reality check on November 09, 2006, 11:11:05 AM
I agree with Ric and think three 9-1 teams make the playoffs but if one team is 10-0 and two are 8-2, there is no way both 8-2 teams make it unless the rest of the region is extremely weak.  If BW wins, they have the better shot IMO for the following reasons:

1.  BW comes in as the "hot team" having won 6 of their last 7 as opposed to CAP who would finish off as losers of 2 of 3.
2.  BW played Mount better than anyone has all year.
3.  Their only other loss came on the road, at the beginning of the season, in OT.
4.  CAP seems to be no better than last year and is probably a little worse but BW is definitely better than they were last year.
5.  BW this year would very much like CAP last year and CAP this year would be very much like ONU was last year regarding performance and situation.

All that said, I believe if BW wins, the order goes MUC, BW, CAP and one is a lock, two is a bit of a stretch and three is a long, long shot for a playoff spot.

If BW beats Cap I think there is a very good chance they get to the playoffs but they will need some help. there are 10 1 Loss teams left for 7 spots and 4 of them play 2 Loss or better teams this weekend. When its said and done I believe at least one 2 loss team gets in and if BW wins they are the #1 2 loss team out there. I would agree its a real long shot to get bot BW and Cap in.

I also believe the bottom half of the north region is down but the top half is still pretty good. If I were ranking the best playoff candidate teams in our region i would put them:

MUC
Cap
Wheaton
BW
CUW
NCC
Witt
Wabash
MSJ
Franklin
Hope

Those be my thoughts, which are worthless.

Toph

I haven't checked the board in awhile.

RC-
Thanks for handling that for me.

stoonk-
Seriously, I don't really understand why you have this fixation on what I post and why you feel the need to respond in your own little language...whatever it is, let it go.

As for the drop off in wins thing....
I think just about everyone around the program at JCU knew this was going to be something of a building year, although I also believe that everyone was hoping for better than .500 (at best).  I've made it to several games this year and what I see is a young and very talented QB with a capable, young backup (Kirbus).  What will be unfortunate is the loss of Joe Konrad at the end of the season.  If you ask me he is one of the most dangerous offensive weapons in the OAC.  He may not have the breakaway speed of Garcon and others, but he can flat out catch the ball, and in the red zone he is scary due to his size.  Hopefully the Streaks can finish the season on a winning note (I think they will), and even though they didn't win against Mount there were plenty of good things to take away from that game.

seventiesraider

I had forgotten that Rowan's uni's were similar to BW's yet somehow even uglier. It's a color scheme that words somehow can't describe adequately
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...

Desertraider

Quote from: reality check on November 09, 2006, 03:55:06 PM
Hiram is 2-47 over the last five seasons, has one 1 NCAC win over that time period and has lost 16 straight. (Both wins were over Kenyon; once before they joined the NCAC and once after joining.)


What 2-47? No way!! You have denied my "beloved" Terriers the hardfought win against Earlham last year 7-2 (no it was not baseball). My count stands at 3-47.....much more respectable!! ;D

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Desertraider

Okay - so the post does not appear the way it was intended. Nevertheless it says what was intended.


GO TERRIERS!!! Beat....somebody!
RIP MUC57 - Go Everybody!
National Champions: 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015, 2017
The Autumn Wind is a Raider!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEYK_XjyLg
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reality check

My apologies.  The Terriers did indeed beat Earlham last year but I somehow transposed Earlham for Kenyon.  So to be totally accurate, the Terriers are still 2-47 over the last five seasons with one NCAC win (over Earlham) and a win over Kenyon prior to Kenyon becoming a member of the NCAC.

That's as respectable as it gets for Hiram I guess.
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950

e_lee

This Hiram talk reminded me of how my four years at Capital were a time of change.

-Freshman year we lost to Hiram. Sophomore year we got shut out by Thiel(when they were bad)
-Senior year we beat BW and John Carroll.

How many people can say that in their 4 years in college they managed to lose to Hiram and beat two traditional OAC powers.

The eyes are the groin of the head.  -- Dwight K. Schrute

reality check

Quote from: e_lee on November 10, 2006, 09:56:47 AM
How many people can say that in their 4 years in college they managed to lose to Hiram and beat two traditional OAC powers.

Rocky can't.

(He never lost to Hiram and he comes nowhere near that 4 year number.)

;)
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950

JK

RC,

You're right.  I think Rocky began his career when Hiram was still in the OAC.  ;)

Who says you can't poke fun at your own team?

seventiesraider

Quote from: JK on November 10, 2006, 11:52:18 AM
think Rocky began his career when Hiram was still in the OAC.  ;)

I think they were still in the PAC ;D
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...

reality check

#7529
Quote from: JK on November 10, 2006, 11:52:18 AM
RC,

You're right.  I think Rocky began his career when Hiram was still in the OAC.  ;)

Who says you can't poke fun at your own team?

Upon further review, I have an addendum to the Rocky/Capital/Hiram/4 year discussion.  Back in 1998 (e lee's freshman year) Hiram actually beat Capital 34-21 and that was Rocky's first junior season with the Crusaders (ninth season overall).

It's true.  Rocky Capital has come full circle.
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950