FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[joelmama]

But, to the most arrogant fans in the country and other who write and follow D-3 football, any Mount defeat, especially before the championship game would be a shock.  Don't go and be all politically correct now when being cocky and over confident has served you so well in the past.  People like you and all your other raider fan buddies are the reason a win this Saturday would be soooooooo much sweeter.

AGAIN.  GO CAP!!!!  Expcect to Win and SHOCK THE WORLD!!!!!!  C U Saturday!   

If any fans have the right to be arrogant I think the MUC fans would be at the top of the list.  Not that I think they are.  Any team that has the success they have is going to be very confident in any situation.

If you don't like the jokes about Rocky too bad.  He is given plenty of proper respect for being an excellent QB.  If we didn't think he was any good we wouldn't even talk about him.

[raiderpa]

I saw the BW/Cap game and Smith at running back made the Capital offense much better IMO.  He played very well and I wondered where he had been.  Mulkey did not play much that game.  I think Smith gives more hope to Rocky to slow the Mount DL pass rush.

A word about Coach Collis:
I wrote him a note at the end of last season congratulating him and his team for their outstanding play, sportsmanship, and representation of the OAC.
To my surprise, he answered the note with a very  classy thank you...
There are not many coaches who would take the time to thank someone who means nothing to him or his program.
I became a Jim Collins fan that day, and will cheer for him (except agin the Raiders...)
I hope Cap plays its best game Saturday, But I think that Mount will control the ball and game with the running of Kmic...

[cufan]

The end of this year reminds me of how last year finished.  O'Reily had a solid year going into the playoffs but Mulkey ran like a man possessed in the playoffs.  This year Mulkey has been banged up and now Charlie is doing an excellent job.  Coming out of HS Charlie Smith was the div 2 player of the year, but for whatever reason he has not been able to put things together until late this year.

I think there is a huge difference between being arrogant and rude.  I am sure all teams have a little of both in the stands.

[SaintsFAN]

Congrats on the all-OAC Regional Final.  

Does the continued (as expected) success of los purple raiders mean we are due to see a post from reality check's buddy, stonk-man on the many nicknames of Kehres and his charges?

[section13raiderfan]

Wasnt the receiver from UHMB that caught the Hail Mary pass that beat MUC about the same age as Rocky Pentello? I guess that age is not an indicator of talent necessarily.  I  liked what Rocky brought to the games against MUC. I do not agree he is the best QB ever in the OAC, but he sure was fun to watch! There is no quit in the guy, and I respect that. Having said that, I hope he comes up way short again.

About the Karma thing....is there a Karma Xmas catalogue where you can redeem Karma points for gifts? If not, then what do I do with them? Maybe they would look good on my resume! Can I donate them to charity and take the tax deduction? Surely they have some value? I hope they are worth more than my frequent flyer miles...all I can get with those are magazine subscriptions.

Start the bus...and point it towards Salem Va.     GO RAIDERS!

[cu parent]

e-lee, glad to hear about such pride in your crusaders. As my son was deciding on schools he looked at Capital first and a few other OAC schools including Mount. But he kept going back to Capital. He said he wants to help build a tradition and that he has done.  GO CAP!!!

[purpled]

crusader26 - Let me add one more "if"...if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle!

Anybody notice how often Kmic starts the scoring? Quite impressive!

The Machine is oiled and ready to roll...again!

[cu parent]

Cardinaldad--Hope your trip to C-bus was a good one, except for the game.Last year when we came to your house we talked to a few of your fans before and after the game. We had a great time! Hope we were  good hosts also.

[cardinaldad]

cuparent,
Other than the game, we had a nice trip. The CU fans were very cordial. By the way, your facility is very nice. Yours and ours are the best I've seen since enjoying d3 football. Thanks!!

[cardinaldad]

CardinalDad

I don't think anyone is judging Kniss unfairly.  He is a very good QB with a strong accurate arm and very elusive in the pocket.  The point is, two of his "off" days have come against CAP, an OAC opponent.  It is not a coincidence.  Every game and every team is tough in the OAC.  With all due respect to Kniss and NCC, they would be a fourth or fifth place team in the OAC at best.  That is why the comparisons are not justified.  Rocky has put up better numbers against the best competition D-3 has to offer.  You saw first hand what the OAC did to your league and CAP destroyed the best the NCAC had to offer twice.  Mount speaks for itself.  So, when comparing the two players, you also have to consider who they play.

I saw Joel Steele from Anderson College play against CAP his senior year.  He was a 12,000 yard career passer.  CAP, a non-playoff qualifier that season with a freshman QB, beat Anderson 65-7. The score easily could have been much much worse and I believe Anderson went on to be 8-2 or 7-3 that year.  The point is, the numbers players like Garcon, Kmic, and Rocky are putting up in their league have to be looked at differently than guaddy numbers put up in other leagues.  No disrespect, but it is like comparing the Big Ten to Ivy league.  I think the playoff records back me up, especially since almost all OAC losses have come against another OAC team.

As for the comparison between last year's CAP vs. NCC game.  CAP relied much more heavily on their defense last season.  As a result, the play calling was MUCH MUCH more conservative.  Add that to the fact that CAP lacked big play speed to stretch the field last year, you saw a team content to grind out victories rather than step on the gas pedal.  Rocky did not have his best game last year at NCC, but alot of that was situational and game planning.  He still made enough plays to win on the road against a higher seeded opponent in the playoffs.

You saw the REAL CAP offense Saturday.  When they open things up and play TO WIN, they are very very tough to stop.

By the way.......ROCKY IS OLD.......Look how creative and funny I was.

I hear your points. I assure you that Kniss has had more than two bad games in his career. His ONLY two bad games were not only against Cap. Don't give Cap and the OAC THAT much credit. Rocky has never had bad games? The Cap o-line has not had bad games? Put Kniss on that Cap team on Saturday and he too would have hit wide open receivers. Not to take any thing away from Rocky, but I didn't see him have make too many difficult throws. He didn't have to. We didn't pressure him at all. Our defense, on Saturday, made him look very good. My point is many qb's would have looked that good in Cap's offense on Saturday. Rocky wouldn't have looked as great in NCC's offense on that particular day.

[crusader26]

elee,

I wondered why the corners were playing off about 10 yards, I would assume that it had something to do with something the coaches saw in films, but I am not the D-cood, and the game plan worked, so I had no complaints about it, even though several fans around me openly and loudly were questioning it.

Cap did that last year in Naperville and I think its the right way to play NCC. Many of their routes are pigtail routes and option routes. Cap's dbs were really fast last year and as long as you keep everything in front of you and break on the ball you put the pressure on the qb and the recievers to execute all the way down the field without giving up the big play. I liked the way they defended them last year and I assume that's what they did again.

This is what they do all game...sometime they start a few yards off the ball, but then move back in a position to not get beat deep.  Cap stays in their base defense pretty much the entire game.  Sometimes they stunt, sometimes they blitz, and they never play a nickel or dime package!!  They win or lose with what they have on the field...bend but don't break!!

[crusader26]

I saw the BW/Cap game and Smith at running back made the Capital offense much better IMO.  He played very well and I wondered where he had been.  Mulkey did not play much that game.  I think Smith gives more hope to Rocky to slow the Mount DL pass rush.

A word about Coach Collis:
I wrote him a note at the end of last season congratulating him and his team for their outstanding play, sportsmanship, and representation of the OAC.
To my surprise, he answered the note with a very  classy thank you...
There are not many coaches who would take the time to thank someone who means nothing to him or his program.
I became a Jim Collins fan that day, and will cheer for him (except agin the Raiders...)
I hope Cap plays its best game Saturday, But I think that Mount will control the ball and game with the running of Kmic...

Rumor has it Coach Snell sent Rocky a card congratulating him on a great season & career at Cap...I still think it may have been a Xmas Card thanking him for finally using all his eligibility

[crusader26]

CardinalDad

I don't think anyone is judging Kniss unfairly.  He is a very good QB with a strong accurate arm and very elusive in the pocket.  The point is, two of his "off" days have come against CAP, an OAC opponent.  It is not a coincidence.  Every game and every team is tough in the OAC.  With all due respect to Kniss and NCC, they would be a fourth or fifth place team in the OAC at best.  That is why the comparisons are not justified.  Rocky has put up better numbers against the best competition D-3 has to offer.  You saw first hand what the OAC did to your league and CAP destroyed the best the NCAC had to offer twice.  Mount speaks for itself.  So, when comparing the two players, you also have to consider who they play.

I saw Joel Steele from Anderson College play against CAP his senior year.  He was a 12,000 yard career passer.  CAP, a non-playoff qualifier that season with a freshman QB, beat Anderson 65-7. The score easily could have been much much worse and I believe Anderson went on to be 8-2 or 7-3 that year.  The point is, the numbers players like Garcon, Kmic, and Rocky are putting up in their league have to be looked at differently than guaddy numbers put up in other leagues.  No disrespect, but it is like comparing the Big Ten to Ivy league.  I think the playoff records back me up, especially since almost all OAC losses have come against another OAC team.

As for the comparison between last year's CAP vs. NCC game.  CAP relied much more heavily on their defense last season.  As a result, the play calling was MUCH MUCH more conservative.  Add that to the fact that CAP lacked big play speed to stretch the field last year, you saw a team content to grind out victories rather than step on the gas pedal.  Rocky did not have his best game last year at NCC, but alot of that was situational and game planning.  He still made enough plays to win on the road against a higher seeded opponent in the playoffs.

You saw the REAL CAP offense Saturday.  When they open things up and play TO WIN, they are very very tough to stop.

By the way.......ROCKY IS OLD.......Look how creative and funny I was.

I hear your points. I assure you that Kniss has had more than two bad games in his career. His ONLY two bad games were not only against Cap. Don't give Cap and the OAC THAT much credit. Rocky has never had bad games? The Cap o-line has not had bad games? Put Kniss on that Cap team on Saturday and he too would have hit wide open receivers. Not to take any thing away from Rocky, but I didn't see him have make too many difficult throws. He didn't have to. We didn't pressure him at all. Our defense, on Saturday, made him look very good. My point is many qb's would have looked that good in Cap's offense on Saturday. Rocky wouldn't have looked as great in NCC's offense on that particular day.

And here we go again!!  Let's just get it out of the way...Kniss should be wearing a Purple Raider uni, then he would have been a 4-Year All-American, All-OAC, broken every record in the planet, blah, blah, blah, blah!!

[e_lee]

yea i consider myself lucky.. i was able to attend Capital after their first winning season in a long time... the upper classmen had learned from those seniors how to prepare for an OAC schedule.. My hat is off to those seniors who established new tradition... the program was lucky to have a few of those seniors to stick around for the next couple of years... Their playoff was a 7-3 season with wins of JC and BW...I was fortunate enough to make the playoffs... that is why i am so glad to see Capital in back to back appearances.... thanks again to the 2001 crusaders

2minuteO,

You are welcome.  If you are tired of monitoring study hall come on down to South Carolina to teach and coach. Youtouched onthose JCU and BW wins.  Still remember watching the clock tick down on both of those.  I also remember Dan Bartholomew hugging me in the bathroom at Murph's the night of the JCU game.

JK,

I know the exact look you are talking about. Can't wait to listen to the game on Saturday.

[SaintsFAN]

I saw Joel Steele from Anderson College play against CAP his senior year.  He was a 12,000 yard career passer.  CAP, a non-playoff qualifier that season with a freshman QB, beat Anderson 65-7. The score easily could have been much much worse and I believe Anderson went on to be 8-2 or 7-3 that year.  The point is, the numbers players like Garcon, Kmic, and Rocky are putting up in their league have to be looked at differently than guaddy numbers put up in other leagues.  No disrespect, but it is like comparing the Big Ten to Ivy league.  I think the playoff records back me up, especially since almost all OAC losses have come against another OAC team.



dabein,

I remember this well, because it cost me in the pick ems...

While we all know the level of competition is great in the OAC...Your argument using Joel Steele as an example doesn't really add up.  Yes, in 2003 Capital beat Anderson 65-13, and it does sound like they opened up the bench for the 2nd half after blocking a punt and returning a punt for TDs.   In 2002, Steele had 434 of his "12,000" yards at Capital during that see-saw battle which gave Capital its first loss in Bernlohr Stadium.  In 2003 he had 272 more in the debacle... Both of those Raven teams went 7-3 and failed to win the HCAC. 

A stud QB is a stud QB no matter where he plays.