FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[jaypeter]

I have seen them, and they are impressive I agree - That doesn't change the fact nobody in the OAC can give them a game.

Last 2 teams East has sent down there the avg. "beating" was 23-10.

Yes, and what ranked team was it that came in for that score?  The number 8 seed?

jaypeter

[reality check]

Re: 54-2

MUC's been dominant this year, no doubt.  And I said about a month ago how scary it would be when "playing them tough" could consist of getting shutout but being shutout by less than their normal margin of victory as was the case with BW, CAP, ONU.  If Ithaca can keep it in the same ballpark, they'll have my respect as much as the other OAC teams that fall into that category.

But let's not forget the 40-9 mark in the playoffs for the OAC.  MUC itself has a 27-3 record.  The OAC Pools C's have a 13-6 record and only one of those six losses have come to teams not named Mount Union.  Since the playoffs went from 28 to 32 teams and Mount has had to play a first rounder, the average margin of victory has been 46 points.  Going 13-1 against the rest of the country should be enough to let even the casual non-North region D3 fan know that there is life in the OAC beyond MUC.

Capital, it would be awesome if you knocked off Whitewater.  I really hope you guys get it done up in Wisconsin.  I hope to be paying a lot more attention to your game than the one in Alliance.

[jaypeter]

But let's not forget the 40-9 mark in the playoffs for the OAC.  MUC itself has a 27-3 record.  The OAC Pools C's have a 13-6 record and only one of those six losses have come to teams not named Mount Union.  Since the playoffs went from 28 to 32 teams and Mount has had to play a first rounder, the average margin of victory has been 46 points.  Going 13-1 against the rest of the country should be enough to let even the casual non-North region D3 fan know that there is life in the OAC beyond MUC.

I think last year around this time someone actually did the math with Mount Union completely removed from the equation.  is that your 13-1?

jaypeter

[uknowme22]

I simply find it funny that every year the same thing is said..."Mount doesn't get challenged, wait till they play someone good, etc."

But more times than not, when they do play someone "good" they still win.  Whether you win by 100 or 1, it's still a win.  And they will win on Saturday.  If not...it will be a bit shocking and a great day for Ithaca, the E8, and the other teams of the East Region.

[superman57]

Ric, over on the E8 board, we do a pretty good job at policing ourselves...

You can tell by superman's karma.

Pat no need to be a playa hatta... Go Ithaca... Looking forward to Fisher-MUC 08

[HScoach]

Recalc based on the games against ONU, Capital and Baldwin-Wallace.

38.67-0.

Which is about what the Ithaca might end up.  Give or take a TD.  Hence my 31.5 spread

Yeah,  I know.  In hindsight, it would probably need to be +41.5 to get some action on the Ithaca side.  But without being able to move the line like Vegas does, I'm stuck with my guess being too low.  Arrrrgggg !

[superman57]

Score prediction.....


Ithaca 77
MUC -6....MUC gets penalized 6 points for Garcon being a tool

























Just kidding

MUC-42
Ithaca-14

[skunks_sidekick]

Hey Supe....I remember your "love" for Garcon last year.     I know it was related to whatever he did while at Norwich.  Care to elaborate again?

For the record......the reason Garcon was quiet (not as productive) through that one stretch in the last third of this year was the SAME reason he was quiet for a few games last year.  Hopefully he has overcome the same malaise and is ready for a great run/finish to a great career.  Love him or hate him.....he is the BEST wide receiver I have seen when you combine pure speed, catching ability, and especially blocking ability. 

[Jonny Utah]

I'll tell you what's a "hoot", saying that the OAC is a solid conference yet here is the average MUC game this year:

MUC:         54
Opponent:  2

Outside of Capital, I don't see what you're talking about. The East will challenge them... An average score of 54-2 you will not see.

No,  but the bottom half of any conference isn't in the postseason. Recalc based on the games against ONU, Capital and Baldwin-Wallace.

I don't understand why it's so difficult to understand the concept that the OAC can be a good conference and Mount Union could still be head and shoulders above the rest of the teams.

We will find out in the next few weeks if scores arent any worse than 37-0 each game.

[JQV]

Hey Supe....I remember your "love" for Garcon last year.     I know it was related to whatever he did while at Norwich.  Care to elaborate again?

He played on a Norwich team that upset Fisher in 2005 when they thought they were good.

Not to stick my head in the lion's mouth here but, the discussion about the relative strength of the OAC began on the E8 board (at least among the sane posters) when someone from this board suggested that the OAC had a down year and no one really knows if MUC is as dominant as they appear or if the OAC was really bad.

[superman57]

Hey Supe....I remember your "love" for Garcon last year.     I know it was related to whatever he did while at Norwich.  Care to elaborate again?

For the record......the reason Garcon was quiet (not as productive) through that one stretch in the last third of this year was the SAME reason he was quiet for a few games last year.  Hopefully he has overcome the same malaise and is ready for a great run/finish to a great career.  Love him or hate him.....he is the BEST wide receiver I have seen when you combine pure speed, catching ability, and especially blocking ability. 

My main hate for Garcon goes to the fact that I think it is a douche bag move to go to a school and then immediatly leave because you want to win...That's not what d3 is about and I think he ruins D3...he ruins all the hard work that Nate and the rest of the purple raiders put forth...in my mind Garcon=A-Rod

and JQV it was 04 that they upset us not 05.... they were are only loss in 04

[The_end_of_overlook]

Stooperman57,
That is one of the most classless posts i have seen or read on this board in quite some time...wow, you should be the one who is embarassed of their actions. 

[superman57]

Stooperman57,
That is one of the most classless posts i have seen or read on this board in quite some time...wow, you should be the one who is embarassed of their actions. 

how is my post classless...someone asked why I dislike Piere Garcon and I stated I feel that his attitude is what's wrong with all of Sports...You play the game because you love to play the game...If you give your commitment to Norwich stay and try to win at norwich do not run of to MUC because you can't win...

[JQV]

I gotta disagree.  No one plays at a high level unless they want to win.  Who knows how he ended up at Norwich.  Maybe they lied to him about their program.  Maybe he just made a mistake.  I can't fault a kid with only four yaers of eligibility for not wanting to squander them.

[The_end_of_overlook]

the term Douche Bag, really brought your argument down a couple levels. Jose brings up a great point, neither you nor I or anyone else on this board knows how any of these players ended up where they are today, if they were lied to, or even if the descion was right or wrong. The fact is we are talking about student athletes who pay $ to get a degree and play football. I think that gives everyone in d3 the right to do as they please. You mention giving a commitment to Norwhich to play there, what about the commit of Norwhich to give their student athletes the best oppurtunity to win. See it goes both ways. All I am going to say is, don't assume you know the situation and make a judgemet on it when no one really know.

Thats why that is a classless post.