FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[mtfan]

Congrats to Pat McCullough on winning the Most Outstanding Defensiveman Award and All-OAC honors! Awesome job! likewise, Micheli, Blanchard, and Garcon on winning their awards as well! Mike Hallet gets big props too, for the turn around made at the 'Berg. Congrats also the list of first team OAC players both from Mount and the rest of the league!

HurfMUC
gotta be there! 

[HScoach]

As for the rest of the OAC, I am really disappointed in a couple categories...

No disrespect to the players that were given first team nods but the RB category is all out of whack (with the obvious exception of Kmic).  Traditionally in the OAC, the nod goes to the upperclassmen when all things are relatively equal right?  That's how I remember it anyways.  Along with Kmic, first team should have gone to BW's Ranallo and ONU's Meadows.  

This season makes up for Meadows getting 1st team last year when he didn't deserve it.  Meadows is a nice RB, but in my opinion he isn't worthy the historical significance of being a 4 time 1st OAC selection.  There have been some absolute studs at TB in the OAC that never got that.

Overall, I can't think of a worse year for the offensive talent in the OAC.  Ever.

[Tags]

As for the rest of the OAC, I am really disappointed in a couple categories...

No disrespect to the players that were given first team nods but the RB category is all out of whack (with the obvious exception of Kmic).  Traditionally in the OAC, the nod goes to the upperclassmen when all things are relatively equal right?  That's how I remember it anyways.  Along with Kmic, first team should have gone to BW's Ranallo and ONU's Meadows.  

This season makes up for Meadows getting 1st team last year when he didn't deserve it.  Meadows is a nice RB, but in my opinion he isn't worthy the historical significance of being a 4 time 1st OAC selection.  There have been some absolute studs at TB in the OAC that never got that.

Overall, I can't think of a worse year for the offensive talent in the OAC.  Ever.

Excluding Mt. Union I'm assuming.

So the rest of the OAC actually did have a down year?

[Jonny Utah]

After watching the SNF game last night I have to ask:

Are the New England Patriots becoming the Mount Union College of the NFL?

Second question:

If yes, then what does that make Josh McDaniels?

Very good at his job with very, very, very, very, very, very, very good personel.  How insane was that last night?  7 straight touchdowns?  To paraphrase Dan Hawkins...IT'S NFL FOOTBALL!  IT'S THE AFC!  THIS AIN'T NFL EUROPA.  YOU GET 4 DOWNS TO TRY TO STOP THE OPPOSING OFFENSE.  THEY PUT UP 49 ON YOU, THAT'S 7 POSSESSIONS!  Go play NFL Europa, brother.  Go play NFL Europa.

How does that happen?

The clear differences between Mount and the Patriots are:

Mount does not intentionally run up the score
Mount respects their opponents and vice-versa
Larry Kehres respects the media
Former Mount players now coaching do not despise Mount Union
Mount does not videotape or record their opponents sidelines
Mount's players play because they love the game
Mount players prefer chili instead of chowder

The Patriots run up the score as much as MUC does. 
Point being: Neither team runs up the score.

[uknowme22]

As far as running up the score... Isn't it the job of the defense to stop the offense from scoring.  Not to mention, it isn't like the Patriots can put in the JV's, they don't have JV's.  Was it classless going for it on 4th down?  Maybe...

Either way they were going to score points.  And like Bellicek (sp?) said, he felt like it gave their (Bills) defense a chance to make a stop.

As far as MUC running up the score, I don't think they do in intentionally.  Sometimes even when you put in the JV's you score points.  What are you supposed to do, take a knee three times and punt?  Now that would be classless. 

Point being, if you don't want to get beat by 70, stop them.

[Tags]

As far as running up the score... Isn't it the job of the defense to stop the offense from scoring.  Not to mention, it isn't like the Patriots can put in the JV's, they don't have JV's.  Was it classless going for it on 4th down?  Maybe...

Either way they were going to score points.  And like Bellicek (sp?) said, he felt like it gave their (Bills) defense a chance to make a stop.

As far as MUC running up the score, I don't think they do in intentionally.  Sometimes even when you put in the JV's you score points.  What are you supposed to do, take a knee three times and punt?  Now that would be classless. 

Point being, if you don't want to get beat by 70, stop them.

Precisely... +k

[runyr]

As far as running up the score... Isn't it the job of the defense to stop the offense from scoring.  Not to mention, it isn't like the Patriots can put in the JV's, they don't have JV's.  Was it classless going for it on 4th down?  Maybe...

Either way they were going to score points.  And like Bellicek (sp?) said, he felt like it gave their (Bills) defense a chance to make a stop.

As far as MUC running up the score, I don't think they do in intentionally.  Sometimes even when you put in the JV's you score points.  What are you supposed to do, take a knee three times and punt?  Now that would be classless. 

Point being, if you don't want to get beat by 70, stop them.

Precisely... +k

Especially in the playoffs...+k for both of you.  (Belichick)
I might have to read The Education of a Coach by David Halberstam (RIP)
http://www.allthingsbillbelichick.com/

[HScoach]

As for the rest of the OAC, I am really disappointed in a couple categories...

No disrespect to the players that were given first team nods but the RB category is all out of whack (with the obvious exception of Kmic).  Traditionally in the OAC, the nod goes to the upperclassmen when all things are relatively equal right?  That's how I remember it anyways.  Along with Kmic, first team should have gone to BW's Ranallo and ONU's Meadows.  

This season makes up for Meadows getting 1st team last year when he didn't deserve it.  Meadows is a nice RB, but in my opinion he isn't worthy the historical significance of being a 4 time 1st OAC selection.  There have been some absolute studs at TB in the OAC that never got that.

Overall, I can't think of a worse year for the offensive talent in the OAC.  Ever.

Excluding Mt. Union I'm assuming.

So the rest of the OAC actually did have a down year?

Uh, I've only been saying that on the E-8 page for a week and a half now.

[Small but Slow]

Having been on both sides of a lopsided games both present a quandary for a coach.  The starters have earned the opportunity to play by their hard work and dedication to the program.  It's not fair to limit their playing time because the opponent can not provide adequate competition.  That's a good time to keep things basic and focus on fundamentals.  As a coach on the back end of an a#*whuppin' I have no problem with my opponent trying to run his offense or defense, but I will air my displeasure if they run trick plays or showing us up with the game well in hand.  

[Jonny Utah]

As far as running up the score... Isn't it the job of the defense to stop the offense from scoring.  Not to mention, it isn't like the Patriots can put in the JV's, they don't have JV's.  Was it classless going for it on 4th down?  Maybe...

Either way they were going to score points.  And like Bellicek (sp?) said, he felt like it gave their (Bills) defense a chance to make a stop.

As far as MUC running up the score, I don't think they do in intentionally.  Sometimes even when you put in the JV's you score points.  What are you supposed to do, take a knee three times and punt?  Now that would be classless. 

Point being, if you don't want to get beat by 70, stop them.

Exactly.  If MUC was a national team, and the IC game was on TV, you would have a few clowns asking why Micheli was in the game on the last series when the game is well in hand.  I hear the crybaby anti-patriots people do it all the time.

[reality check]

This season makes up for Meadows getting 1st team last year when he didn't deserve it.  Meadows is a nice RB, but in my opinion he isn't worthy the historical significance of being a 4 time 1st OAC selection.  There have been some absolute studs at TB in the OAC that never got that.

I totally agree with the fact Meadows didn't deserve it last year and that stud backs haven't gotten the honor.  Hindsight is 20/20 but it sure would have made more sense to give JCU's Divis the first team nod last year as opposed to the guys (excluding Kmic) they put there this season.  His numbers were better and he was a Senior.

[fredsdriveinn]

That's all great...your defense can try to stop my offense...we're going to keep throwing until you figure it out.  I understand the game of football...I suited up with a  d1 program in college...that being said...if Kehres had that philosophy when the game is out of reach then you would see Mount scoring 100pts. 4-5 times a year.  It still only counts as one win regardless of the score.  If you received style points then that would be a different story.  Just my humble opinion.

[fredsdriveinn]

As far as running up the score... Isn't it the job of the defense to stop the offense from scoring.  Not to mention, it isn't like the Patriots can put in the JV's, they don't have JV's.  Was it classless going for it on 4th down?  Maybe...

Either way they were going to score points.  And like Bellicek (sp?) said, he felt like it gave their (Bills) defense a chance to make a stop.

As far as MUC running up the score, I don't think they do in intentionally.  Sometimes even when you put in the JV's you score points.  What are you supposed to do, take a knee three times and punt?  Now that would be classless. 

Point being, if you don't want to get beat by 70, stop them.

Exactly.  If MUC was a national team, and the IC game was on TV, you would have a few clowns asking why Micheli was in the game on the last series when the game is well in hand.  I hear the crybaby anti-patriots people do it all the time.

How about for fear of risking injury?

[fredsdriveinn]

Why do you think playoff bound teams rest there starters during the final week of the NFL season?

[uknowme22]

There's always risk of injury.  That risk doesn't increase if the game is in hand.  Yes it would be bad to lose a starter while playing in a blow out.  But that's football. 

If you are afraid of getting hurt, go play shuffle board.   

All kidding aside, it's not a team's fault you can't stop them.  What are your thoughts on a team scoring with their JV's.  Those kids are getting their chance on the field, should they not try to score?  Sometimes at team's JV's are better than their opponents varsity.