FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[skunks_sidekick]

If I recall.......Spence is actually a trash-talking Marietta baseball guy.  He had inflammatory things to say last year throughout the year, and this year isn't any different.  He's just bein "the SPENCE".   

Word is that Barren has not responded well to treatment, and is probably done for the year.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Morring this week.  I wonder if he could have played yesterday, but was held out due to the opponent not posing a great threat. 

[raiderpa]

I think Scot Thomas could be a whale of a fullback....he has shown me great power/strength and effort when running the ball....he moves the pile for YAC...Maybe he is a poor blocker, but I doubt it..

BIG props to MUC receivers for downfield blocks yesterday....

[TheeBuffaloSabres]

Lets just hope SJF doesnt leave the rushing D east of Buffalo (like last year)

DOes anyone know how many years in a row MUC has made the final four?

[Sec. 13 Sea Raider]

Great comments RaiderPa!
I thought the TCNJ kids played their hearts out, but just did not have enought to hand back to MUC. I felt their coaching staff was overwhelmed as much, if not more than the players, doing the best they could. Your comments on some of our more disgusting, so called big fans, are well deserved for those individuals. There are plenty fans that would help in the process of removing them from their seats, if any opponents dad would decide to take that route. They are the one true embarrasment to our program. When you start calling out some players number, who is already hurt be the score and his inability to correct it, that is pretty darn low. I saw some of the "cheap shots", but let the zebras take care of that. If they want to help these kids out, they need to get off their hind ends and cheer for them, instead of making their snide little remarks at the opposing players. I also talked to some of their fans prior to the game and found, as you did, they came here to support these kids and felt they did just that. I think TCNJ will be around next year and wish them the best of luck.

GO RIAIDERS!

[MountFan08]

TheeBuffaloSabres

Mount has made the Final Four 12 years in a row.  Last year they didn't was 1994.

[phil]

Sec. 13,
TCNJ's coach is 53 years young and has 188 victories competing in a conference with Rowan, Montclair, Cortland & Co. Not too bad when you add in the fact that TCNJ is one of only 7 or 8 state schools in the country with a "Most Competitive" ranking (others are William & Mary, North Carolina, UCLA, etc.). When you get 5 or 6 special admits and the rest of the team needs to get close to the average SAT score of 1300 to make it into the school, it makes it hard to develop a consistently competitive football program. Yesterday just spelled out the difference in both teams. TCNJ will struggle to be in the top 4 in the NJAC each year while MUC will just keep churning out championships.

Funny how the same coach that beat the Rowan team that beat MUC looks bad when there's such a disparity in talent.

For you and RaiderPa, best of luck the rest of the way, you certainly seem to have a team for the ages.

[pg04]

Too bad this whole round was a joke. Wonder if the automatic bids and the inflated rankings to "reward teams" had anything to do with it.

Was this round any different of a "joke" than MUC's run through the OAC and to this stage in the play-offs every year...

Notwithsatnding, I do agree with you, if what you are getting at is that certain teams are not deserving of their AQ's...but it is no different than the AQ'S handed out to NCAA basketball teams every March.  It is the price 'we' pay for actually having our National Championship played out on the field as opposed to in some CEO's boardroom...{insert Bowl game corporate sponsor name here}...

Hasn't Mount lost more recently in the OAC than in the postseason?

There's more parity in college basketball (and basketball in general) than D-III football. There's at most one bad round in basketball, even that round sees quite a few upsets. Here, we get 59-7 in the 2nd round. We get Wabash and Case Western, where neither team really deserved to be where they were.

Eh, I give up. Apparently everyone is fine with the **** kickings that get handed out this time every year. Marietta's as good as some of these teams.

I think losing in the OAC once more recently than losing in the post season is not a trend to make your case.

[Jonny Utah]

Heres a random non-football question for you guys.

I've travelled a good bit around the country (driven across it twice), but Ive never before seen small oil drills on private land before like I did around Alliance.  (I deduced that eastern Ohio has some oil still, Rockefeller etc).

How do these things work?  Do you just put a drill on your own land and sell the oil? 

Very wierd and out of place these things seemed around all that farmland.


And that Rt 11 has to be the fastest road outside of desert Arizona that Ive ever seen.

[seventiesraider]

For the most part they are pumping out natural gas, very often only for the land owner's personal use, or at least until prices skyrocketed in recent years. I remember hundreds of them in the area around Alliance when I was in school there in the sixties. In fact some of the kids I went to school with worked on the drilling rigs as a part time job.

They are fairly rare anymore.

PS They are only pumps that are left in place after the drilling rig moves on.

[Jonny Utah]

For the most part they are pumping out natural gas, very often only for the land owner's personal use, or at least until prices skyrocketed in recent years. I remember hundreds of them in the area around Alliance when I was in school there in the sixties. In fact some of the kids I went to school with worked on the drilling rigs as a part time job.

They are fairly rare anymore.

PS They are only pumps that are left in place after the drilling rig moves on.

Yea I saw a few.  Most werent working but a few were moving along.  Pretty cool I thought.

[formerd3db]

Jonny U:

There are tons of them in mid-Michigan in the counties in and around Central Michigan University - a big hot bed area for natural gas and oil.  These are also out on farmer's lands, many priviate pumps as seventiesraider mentioned; many are still working and producing good; some have been shut down.

Indeed, they are interesting sites, especially the ones still working.

[reality check]

Utah

Regarding scores showing who the good and bad teams are I'd at least argue that the good teams did play MUC a little better than the bad ones.  The better OAC teams this year lost by 44, 44, 37 and 35.  The bad teams in the OAC lost by 62, 59, 59, 53 and 57.  Now losing by 44 is almost as ugly as losing by 59 but that's still two scores.  There is a gap.  It's a sad fact and little consolation but this year, losing to MUC by 28-40-something points might mean a school is very good.  I mentioned a similar thought earlier in the year when MUC had beaten ONU and BW the way they did that CAP could lose in similar fashion and all three schools might walk away saying that losing by 30-40, while not what they wanted, might be respectable considering the team MUC is fielding this year.  That said, Ithaca gets all sorts of kudos for playing MUC the way they did.

My point in posting on this originally was that you can't look at one team at the top and talk about parity within the entire conference.  That's just making an argument while wearing blinders.

[runyr]

Utah

Regarding scores showing who the good and bad teams are I'd at least argue that the good teams did play MUC a little better than the bad ones.  The better OAC teams this year lost by 44, 44, 37 and 35.  The bad teams in the OAC lost by 62, 59, 59, 53 and 57.  Now losing by 44 is almost as ugly as losing by 59 but that's still two scores.  There is a gap.  It's a sad fact and little consolation but this year, losing to MUC by 28-40-something points might mean a school is very good.  I mentioned a similar thought earlier in the year when MUC had beaten ONU and BW the way they did that CAP could lose in similar fashion and all three schools might walk away saying that losing by 30-40, while not what they wanted, might be respectable considering the team MUC is fielding this year.  That said, Ithaca gets all sorts of kudos for playing MUC the way they did.

My point in posting on this originally was that you can't look at one team at the top and talk about parity within the entire conference.  That's just making an argument while wearing blinders.

rc,
Excellent point.  I'm dropping the maybe from my earlier, "Is anyone?" answer. 

[seventiesraider]

And scoring on a 5 play 12 yard drive after a fumbled punt doesn't make you better than OAC teams who didn't score against Mount. Talk about your fuzzy logic.

[Sec. 13 Sea Raider]

Phil,
I never said he was a bad coach, nor did I say they were bad players. What I did say was I thought MUC brought a bigger dinner to the table than they could eat. I wish them the best of luck in the future. You saying that they will never get above the top 4 does not show much faith in them. Remember stranger things have happened and you never know what it might be. I wish you well and hope you have agreat Holiday.