FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[theaprof]

I have sent the following note to Coach Hesse, Coach Kehres, Dean Draves and President Giese:

Is there anything that can be done about the loudmouth, obnoxious fans that were belittling the TCNJ players on Saturday?  My understanding is that one of the TCNJ parents had to go get a police officer to calm our "fans" down.  I know that this is not the first time that this group has caused problems.

I'm all for vocal support of our team, but the chanting and name calling against the other team seems like poor sportsmanship.  Do we need to post the NCAA statement about sportsmanship (like they do in many other college stadiums) and/or announce the policy before the game?  How can we better enforce it?  Is there anything that we, the fans, can do to get this to stop?  It really is a black eye for our program and detracts from Mount Union's reputation of being a classy program.

Thank you for your attention to this problem.

[joelmama]

Noticed this in a D3 article on the Whitewater North Central game.  This si a quote from the North Central Coach.  Seems to be an oxymoron unless of course the seniors were mostly bench players.  Not that there is anything wrong with bench players, that was always my best position in most sports.

"We graduate 20 seniors and they've had a great run," Thorne said. "But we're a young football team and hopefully we'll be right back in this same position next year but we'll come out with a win."

[Shark]

I have sent the following note to Coach Hesse, Coach Kehres, Dean Draves and President Giese:

Is there anything that can be done about the loudmouth, obnoxious fans that were belittling the TCNJ players on Saturday?  My understanding is that one of the TCNJ parents had to go get a police officer to calm our "fans" down.  I know that this is not the first time that this group has caused problems.

I'm all for vocal support of our team, but the chanting and name calling against the other team seems like poor sportsmanship.  Do we need to post the NCAA statement about sportsmanship (like they do in many other college stadiums) and/or announce the policy before the game?  How can we better enforce it?  Is there anything that we, the fans, can do to get this to stop?  It really is a black eye for our program and detracts from Mount Union's reputation of being a classy program.

Thank you for your attention to this problem.

Imaginary +Karma to you AP. (Sorry I can't give the real thing yet )

[pradierguy]

I have sent the following note to Coach Hesse, Coach Kehres, Dean Draves and President Giese:

Is there anything that can be done about the loudmouth, obnoxious fans that were belittling the TCNJ players on Saturday?  My understanding is that one of the TCNJ parents had to go get a police officer to calm our "fans" down.  I know that this is not the first time that this group has caused problems.

I'm all for vocal support of our team, but the chanting and name calling against the other team seems like poor sportsmanship.  Do we need to post the NCAA statement about sportsmanship (like they do in many other college stadiums) and/or announce the policy before the game?  How can we better enforce it?  Is there anything that we, the fans, can do to get this to stop?  It really is a black eye for our program and detracts from Mount Union's reputation of being a classy program.

Thank you for your attention to this problem.

Imaginary +Karma to you AP. (Sorry I can't give the real thing yet )

Excellent letter and idea.
I would give karma too, but I dunno how.

[Toph]

TCNJ scoring after the fumble is actually how they won several games.  They were very good at causing mistakes and capitalizing on the mistakes.  They would play good D and keep it close and the offense was very oppurtunistic.  Like Phil stated when a team is picked to finish next to last and they make it to the second round of the playoffs against the national champs most fans and the program as a whole has to proud of what they accomplished.  Maybe it is time to stop ripping a program and recognize what they accomplished.  They did score more than many of the OAC teams did against Mount but some of you have to trivialize that accomplishment instead recognizing that they did something most of the OAC teams could not do.  It doesn't matter how it is scored or how many yards a drive covered it is still 7 points and it was scored early in the game. 

When it comes to baseball many of you probably wish those loudmouthed Yankee and Redsox fans would just shut up and stop acting like the playoffs and world series appearances are their birthright.  There are a few of you who need to look in that mirror.

Most of you are good posters, maybe a little over the top sometimes, but that is understandable, but the others know who they are and just like Ric said that some fans in the stands should show a little class, some posters need to show a little class.  And that goes for posters from the east region also.

I didn't trivialize what TCNJ did.  I stated facts.  The fact is that they only had to go 12 yards to score, had Mount not fumbled the punt, it would've been 59-0.  The fact is their O only put up 46 yards of offense on 50 plays (don't worry, that's still more than my alma mater...at least TCNJ gained positive yardage).  The fact is that 59-7 doesn't make me say, "Hey!  That's a whole lot better than 35-0!"  I'm not trying to take away from what TCNJ has done, but I also don't think the Lions are patting themselves on the back for getting beat by 52.

Hoping for a good one Saturday.

[rscl70]

I have sent the following note to Coach Hesse, Coach Kehres, Dean Draves and President Giese:

Is there anything that can be done about the loudmouth, obnoxious fans that were belittling the TCNJ players on Saturday?  My understanding is that one of the TCNJ parents had to go get a police officer to calm our "fans" down.  I know that this is not the first time that this group has caused problems.

I'm all for vocal support of our team, but the chanting and name calling against the other team seems like poor sportsmanship.  Do we need to post the NCAA statement about sportsmanship (like they do in many other college stadiums) and/or announce the policy before the game?  How can we better enforce it?  Is there anything that we, the fans, can do to get this to stop?  It really is a black eye for our program and detracts from Mount Union's reputation of being a classy program.

Thank you for your attention to this problem.

Administration emails are avaiable on the Mount Union web site.  If you're fed up with these yahoos pick an administrator and let them know.  I have.

Well done prof.

[reality check]

Just curious for those at the game on Saturday regarding attendance...

I know some expressed concerns over attendance numbers because of the break last week but the reported attendance against TCNJ was almost 2600 compared to the reported attendance in the first round of just over 1800. 

Did Saturday's game feel more crowded?  How was TCNJ's representation in comparison to Ithaca? 

[rscl70]

The crowd was definitly larger on Saturday.  TCNJ had a pretty good turn out, but not as many as Ithaca.

[Jonny Utah]

The crowd was definitly larger on Saturday.  TCNJ had a pretty good turn out, but not as many as Ithaca.

Yea, Ithaca still has a lot of alum in the Buffalo area.  Only about a 3.5 hour drive.

[Frank Rossi]

As a third-party observer of situations like the TCNJ/MUC issues this weekend, based on what I've read on these boards, I thought I'd add a reminder to all.

First, this weekend marks the first of what would be three consecutive nationally broadcast games involving Mount Union, if Mount Union were to make its way to the Stagg Bowl (always a big IF, but let's assume it for the sake of this post only).  I'm somebody who doesn't tolerate belittling of other teams, their players or their fans.  I'm lucky enough to be doing the play-by-play for this weekend's NCAASports.com broadcast of the SJF/MUC game.  I know I'll call out the fans and the area in which they are sitting if I even sense something like that is going on during the game.  There's no place for it in college football or in any other sport, for that matter.  You all represent your school by hosting these events, so act like you've been here before (here, meaning hosting playoff games).  With the publicity your school will be receiving for the, up to, next three games, keep that in mind and be supportive of your own team instead of antagonistic of the other team.  I've said this to SJF fans over the last week, so I'd be remiss not to remind MUC fans of the national implications certain fans' actions can have on a program and a college.

Just to back up my statements here, there have been several sports dynasties over the decades.  UCLA in college basketball.  Miami in college football.  Dallas, San Francisco, Miami and New England in the NFL.  The Lakers, the Celtics, the Bulls and the Spurs in the NBA.  The dynasties that were most favored during their time nationally were the ones in which the players and fans were respectful to the point that people who just about WANTED to hate the team(s) in question couldn't find a fault on which to crucify them.  I remember watching Garcon late in the game last year in the Stagg Bowl acting somewhat non-MUC-like in the endzone, and it left a poor impression on me, as it did others.  Face it -- there's no need for fans or players to intimidate or incite when their team wins 97% of their games, many by "monkey stomps."  It just makes them look undeserving and draws the bullseye on that team larger and larger.

So, fans of MUC, do your school proud this weekend and respect the SJF fans, much as I remind the SJF fans to do toward the MUC fans.  The spirit of D3 football is supportive of the student athlete, not destructive.

[PimpInTheChat]

With regards to the Loud and Obnoxious fans:

The only reason that they can be heard is because the entire stadium is quiet. I thought I read that people actually try to stand? I thought that everyone just sat on their hands. The fans are spoiled. I have more concern for the lack of people there then I do for several that are there that May or may not use the best judgment or sportsmanship. I will give them credit, they seem consistent. Consistently there and consistently A holes, but consistent none the less.

When is the "start the bus" chant not funny? I don't think these guys should loose their season tickets, I think they should be promoted to the Endzone seating. That way they can be heard on both sides of the stadium. And they would be further away from people who like there peace and quiet and don't want things like "Cheers or Jeers" to get in their way of a Saturday afternoon nap. I've got more excited reading the paper then most MUC fans get during the game.

I can see where The Ric is mad if he is sitting a couple rows back and can't see over them because they are standing. And just because Ric can stand on his seat and the people behind him don't notice, doesn't give these guys the right to ruin it for other people.


Sincerely,

Spoiled, Halftime Leaving, Non competitive Game no showing, Ric's scorned lover-

PIMP IN THE CHAT

[wally_wabash]

When is the "start the bus" chant not funny?

When you turn 13.   

[Toph]

When is the "start the bus" chant not funny?

When it's done by a bunch of middleaged guys who think that wearing those purple wigs on their head is cool.

I can see where The Ric is mad if he is sitting a couple rows back and can't see over them because they are standing.

Didn't you ever learn about the fallacy of ad hominem attacks?  Not to speak for Ric, but I don't think he ever said he had a problem with people standing during the game.

[PimpInTheChat]

TOPH- After further research into your accusations of fallacy of ad hominem attacks I have concluded the following:

I don't like you.

Also, You don't have to speak for Ric. That is what HSCOACH is for.

And finally, If you don't like the "Start the bus" chant or think the humor is not there, It sounds like you have some memories of getting on that bus for the long ride home yourself. Just because the bus was short, it doesn't make the ride home short.

[rscl70]

With regards to the Loud and Obnoxious fans:

The only reason that they can be heard is because the entire stadium is quiet. I thought I read that people actually try to stand? I thought that everyone just sat on their hands. The fans are spoiled. I have more concern for the lack of people there then I do for several that are there that May or may not use the best judgment or sportsmanship. I will give them credit, they seem consistent. Consistently there and consistently A holes, but consistent none the less.

When is the "start the bus" chant not funny? I don't think these guys should loose their season tickets, I think they should be promoted to the Endzone seating. That way they can be heard on both sides of the stadium. And they would be further away from people who like there peace and quiet and don't want things like "Cheers or Jeers" to get in their way of a Saturday afternoon nap. I've got more excited reading the paper then most MUC fans get during the game.

I can see where The Ric is mad if he is sitting a couple rows back and can't see over them because they are standing. And just because Ric can stand on his seat and the people behind him don't notice, doesn't give these guys the right to ruin it for other people.


Sincerely,

Spoiled, Halftime Leaving, Non competitive Game no showing, Ric's scorned lover-

PIMP IN THE CHAT

There's nothing wrong with cheering for your team, getting on your feet and showing some entusiasim.  Like you, I wish more would.  There's not even anything wrong with showing disapproval of a bad call or a late hit.  But when the "cheers and Jeers" become personal to the point of harassing individual players or making others in the stands feel intimidated then the behavior has gone too far.  It should not be too dificult to recognize the boundries, but some folks can't.

If some one is cheering on the team in a positive, enthusiastic manner more power to them.  But if they can't recognize the difference between cheering and intimidation then they don't belong in the stands.