FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Toph]

Man you guys do a good job of making me feel insecure about Fisher's chances (no sarcasm, really you are) throwing out all these statistics and possible attacks...But then I remember you only beat Ithaca by 24, a team Fisher itself beat by 21.  Jonny Utah would be quick to jump in and say well Ithaca improved greatly since their encounter with Fisher, but I guess nobody ever looks at the fact that maybe Fisher improved since that encounter as well.

Exactly, they use stats to back up their argument way too much. 

I prefer to use statistics instead of gut feelings.  Gut feelings are why teams forsake their futures to draft a player like Michael Vick with the first pick, despite the fact that his completion percentage dropped almost 6% between his sophomore and junior year, and he threw just 8 touchdowns to 6 INTs in his junior season.  He relied on his legs way to much to make plays, and while he has potential to be a gamebreaker, he never dominated the pro game like he did the college game.  Meanwhile Tom Brady only completed 52% of his passes, but did set the Michigan record for completions in a career, throwing for over 5,000 yards, 35 TD, 19 INT.  The Patriots steal him in the sixth round.  Which would you rather have?

[PBR...]

Man you guys do a good job of making me feel insecure about Fisher's chances (no sarcasm, really you are) throwing out all these statistics and possible attacks...But then I remember you only beat Ithaca by 24, a team Fisher itself beat by 21.  Jonny Utah would be quick to jump in and say well Ithaca improved greatly since their encounter with Fisher, but I guess nobody ever looks at the fact that maybe Fisher improved since that encounter as well.

Exactly, they use stats to back up their argument way too much. 

I prefer to use statistics instead of gut feelings.  Gut feelings are why teams forsake their futures to draft a player like Michael Vick with the first pick, despite the fact that his completion percentage dropped almost 6% between his sophomore and junior year, and he threw just 8 touchdowns to 6 INTs in his junior season.  He relied on his legs way to much to make plays, and while he has potential to be a gamebreaker, he never dominated the pro game like he did the college game.  Meanwhile Tom Brady only completed 52% of his passes, but did set the Michigan record for completions in a career, throwing for over 5,000 yards, 35 TD, 19 INT.  The Patriots steal him in the sixth round.  Which would you rather have?

ummm hate to burst your factoid bubble here but first off vick left college after his redshirt sophmore season...never made it to junior status...also after leading the ncaa in passing efficency his redshirt freshmen year and leading his team to the national title game he was injured in the pitt game in 2000 and missed all or partially 3 games which also led to a large decline in his numbers not only the "facts" you state of just using his legs....not looking to nit pick here but lets not leave facts off the table

[theoriginalupstate]

Has MUC allowed a 100 yard rusher this year?

If I am not mistaken SJF was the only one to have a 100 yard rusher vs them last year.  With the same O-line and a pair of more than competent RB's I think they'll do it again. 

However the only question will be, Will SJF provide enough time for Kramer in the pocket?  He was sacked way too much for my liking last year and even when he wasnt sacked he was pressured a ton. 

[Ric]

I've added the audio highlights from last Saturday to the site.

[Ajwassup]

Has MUC allowed a 100 yard rusher this year?

If I am not mistaken SJF was the only one to have a 100 yard rusher vs them last year.  With the same O-line and a pair of more than competent RB's I think they'll do it again. 

However the only question will be, Will SJF provide enough time for Kramer in the pocket?  He was sacked way too much for my liking last year and even when he wasnt sacked he was pressured a ton. 

no MUC has not allowed a 100 yard rusher this year.

[seventiesraider]

Has MUC allowed a 100 yard rusher this year?

If I am not mistaken SJF was the only one to have a 100 yard rusher vs them last year.  With the same O-line and a pair of more than competent RB's I think they'll do it again. 

However the only question will be, Will SJF provide enough time for Kramer in the pocket?  He was sacked way too much for my liking last year and even when he wasnt sacked he was pressured a ton. 

Upstate - Mount has allowed a total of 154 rushing yards all season, an average of less than a half a yard a carry. Matt Merrett from Ohio Northern had 58 yards on 22 carries for the best rushing performance against Mount this year. Ithaca netted 13 yards on the day. TCNJ netted 19.

Can't believe my ugly mug made the home page of this site.

(Sorry, Merritt is from Capital)

[reality check]

Has MUC allowed a 100 yard rusher this year?

If I am not mistaken SJF was the only one to have a 100 yard rusher vs them last year.  With the same O-line and a pair of more than competent RB's I think they'll do it again. 

However the only question will be, Will SJF provide enough time for Kramer in the pocket?  He was sacked way too much for my liking last year and even when he wasnt sacked he was pressured a ton. 

Upstate - Mount has allowed a total of 154 rushing yards all season, an average of less than a half a yard a carry. Matt Merrett from Ohio Northern had 58 yards on 22 carries for the best rushing performance against Mount this year. Ithaca netted 13 yards on the day.

Except that Matt Merrit is from Capital, the above post is correct.  RJ Meadows from ONU managed 43 yards on 15 carries while ONU ran for a -9 yards as a team.

Meadows 2.9 YPC was the best of any back that had a minimum of 10 carries in a game versus the MUC defense.  Scary.

[Tags]

Meadows 2.9 YPC was the best of any back that had a minimum of 10 carries in a game versus the MUC defense.  Scary.

All of this talk was thrown out there last year before the game too - Then Robinson ran for 110 yards.

Hanson & Reile are nowhere close to Robinson, but together they'll put up more on MUC than anyone has to date.

[pg04]

Are you sure about that? 

[Tags]

In the breif interview after the Stagg Bowl, LK said that Mike Jorris had been injured earlier in the playoffs and that he had kept that quiet.  If you look at the passing and rushing yardage in last years games you can see it.

This is a classic case of denial. Nobody wants to say Fisher hung w/ MUC the entire game, so they throw these oddball statements out there.

"Oh, it would have been downright scary if MUC had been able to throw - probably 59-14 if MUC had all their weapons. There was a super secret injury that only Jorris and his personal trainer knew about, thus making it impossible for Mt. Union to use the passing game"

Didn't Micheli have a massive game in the Stagg the very next week? Must be he was on double secret probation and wasn't allowed to come in & throw that day vs. Fisher.

[Tags]

Are you sure about that? 

Yes - If they can't put 60 yards up with those two backs & that O-line they don't deserve any of the hype they're receiving.

EDIT: And if they can't run, they will be beaten severely. If all MUC has to do is sit back & play a Nickel, Fisher has no shot. I'm not a fool, I saw what happened last year - even with Robby gaining yards Kramer had enough time for about a 3 step drop before he was hit. If they can't keep that defense honest at all, they're in for a long day.

[Pat Coleman]

Didn't Micheli have a massive game in the Stagg the very next week? Must be he was on double secret probation and wasn't allowed to come in & throw that day vs. Fisher.

Well, if I could win without it and spring it on UW-Whitewater the next week, that's what I would've done as a coach.

[Tags]

Didn't Micheli have a massive game in the Stagg the very next week? Must be he was on double secret probation and wasn't allowed to come in & throw that day vs. Fisher.

Well, if I could win without it and spring it on UW-Whitewater the next week, that's what I would've done as a coach.

So the gameplan was not to pass during the Fisher game, so in the Stagg Whitewater would never see it coming.

UW-W Defensive Coordinator after watching game film:
"Man, MUC ran almost every play in the Fisher game - no way they'll throw it against us"

[skunks_sidekick]

I have stated this before.......but really think Fisher fans are missing the point.  LK doesn't care about style points.  He doesn't stop in the middle of a game for a DUH moment and say....."gee...we haven't thrown it enough against Team X....let's PASS". 

He has stated over and over and over......it's all about moving on.  If he can run the ball all day and not risk throwing it.....he will do so if he is confident that the strategy will lead to victory.  He was confident of that last year, no matter HOW much some of us fans were bitchin'.   

[runyr]

Didn't Micheli have a massive game in the Stagg the very next week? Must be he was on double secret probation and wasn't allowed to come in & throw that day vs. Fisher.

Well, if I could win without it and spring it on UW-Whitewater the next week, that's what I would've done as a coach.

So the gameplan was not to pass during the Fisher game, so in the Stagg Whitewater would never see it coming.

UW-W Defensive Coordinator after watching game film:
"Man, MUC ran almost every play in the Fisher game - no way they'll throw it against us"

I have stated this before.......but really think Fisher fans are missing the point.  LK doesn't care about style points.  He doesn't stop in the middle of a game for a DUH moment and say....."gee...we haven't thrown it enough against Team X....let's PASS". 

He has stated over and over and over......it's all about moving on.  If he can run the ball all day and not risk throwing it.....he will do so if he is confident that the strategy will lead to victory.  He was confident of that last year, no matter HOW much some of us fans were bitchin'.  

Great point and the main objective: "...it's all about moving on."