FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[realistic]

Surprised that SJF only has four players from outside of the state of NY.  (One is a freshman from Westlake, OH.)

Seems unusual for a Catholic university to have so few out-of-staters.  JCU has 30+ out-of-state kids.  Catholic has even more than JCU.  Even MSJ has 20+.  SJU has about 25 as well.

Does anyone from SJF want to share their thoughts on this matter?

it's been touched on but SJF has a relativly new program at a small school in western/central NY.  Not really a hotbed to bring in out of state recruits to go there and pay 25-30K a year. 

Also - the SJU comparison is a little off since the 23 players from out of state are out of close to 200 and John doesn't leave campus to recruit unless it is a HUGE recruit.

[jaypeter]

Well I always read this board espically around this time of year but I never post because I get a kick out of others outside the OAC thinking they are better and they will be the ones to knock Mount off.    Lets face it Mount is the only team that can knock Mount off.  They have the BEST team to possibally ever come out of that school.  As a former player thats hard to admit being I played on 5 great teams but this team is dominating everyone in all the stat sheets.  Mount can beat who ever, when ever, by as many as they wish week in and week out. (DIII)  If they wanted to beat every team by 50 LK would call the game that way.  Mount has been so great on the ground throughout the years that a 21pt lead is almost like being ahead 50-0.  Since their D has given up a grand total of 49pts all year a game within 21 (which I dont think is close some do) if Mount scores 4 times its over.  Since teams have had trouble from keeping Mount out of the endzone 7 times a game it looks like Mount wins the Stagg by 20 or more.  The talk about Fisher Rbs running for a 100 or more is almost comical.  The Mount D has developed a "swagger" like the U of old.  When a team scores they take it as an insult and I know allowing a TEAM to run for a 100 would cause them to lose sleep.  So to all you Fisher fans good job making it this far see you in the opener next year.  Mount is and will be the most  DOMINANT program that we ever see and will stay that way untill they decide otherwise. 

I'm going to call the NCAA right away and MUC is going to have to forfit those NC's...

That's too funny.  I thought the same thing.

Agreeing with 57?  Ugh, I almost feel soiled now.   

Someone's got to say it...It's still not as many teams as Rocky played on!!!

[reality check]

Realistic

For the record OAC coaches are not allowed to recruit face to face off the campus grounds.  It's a conference policy that recruits come the schools and not the other way around.

I also know that many of the SJU and MSJ kids are geographically local, meaning that even though they are out-of-staters, they come from nearby states, with a few exceptions.

JCU and Catholic are different in that respect because they do draw students in on a larger scale than surrounding states.

[superman57]

Well I always read this board espically around this time of year but I never post because I get a kick out of others outside the OAC thinking they are better and they will be the ones to knock Mount off.    Lets face it Mount is the only team that can knock Mount off.  They have the BEST team to possibally ever come out of that school.  As a former player thats hard to admit being I played on 5 great teams but this team is dominating everyone in all the stat sheets.  Mount can beat who ever, when ever, by as many as they wish week in and week out. (DIII)  If they wanted to beat every team by 50 LK would call the game that way.  Mount has been so great on the ground throughout the years that a 21pt lead is almost like being ahead 50-0.  Since their D has given up a grand total of 49pts all year a game within 21 (which I dont think is close some do) if Mount scores 4 times its over.  Since teams have had trouble from keeping Mount out of the endzone 7 times a game it looks like Mount wins the Stagg by 20 or more.  The talk about Fisher Rbs running for a 100 or more is almost comical.  The Mount D has developed a "swagger" like the U of old.  When a team scores they take it as an insult and I know allowing a TEAM to run for a 100 would cause them to lose sleep.  So to all you Fisher fans good job making it this far see you in the opener next year.  Mount is and will be the most  DOMINANT program that we ever see and will stay that way untill they decide otherwise. 

I'm going to call the NCAA right away and MUC is going to have to forfit those NC's...

That's too funny.  I thought the same thing.

Agreeing with 57?  Ugh, I almost feel soiled now.   

Someone's got to say it...It's still not as many teams as Rocky played on!!!

anyone else thinking

YO Adrian

[Toph]

Well I always read this board espically around this time of year but I never post because I get a kick out of others outside the OAC thinking they are better and they will be the ones to knock Mount off.    Lets face it Mount is the only team that can knock Mount off.  They have the BEST team to possibally ever come out of that school.  As a former player thats hard to admit being I played on 5 great teams but this team is dominating everyone in all the stat sheets.  Mount can beat who ever, when ever, by as many as they wish week in and week out. (DIII)  If they wanted to beat every team by 50 LK would call the game that way.  Mount has been so great on the ground throughout the years that a 21pt lead is almost like being ahead 50-0.  Since their D has given up a grand total of 49pts all year a game within 21 (which I dont think is close some do) if Mount scores 4 times its over.  Since teams have had trouble from keeping Mount out of the endzone 7 times a game it looks like Mount wins the Stagg by 20 or more.  The talk about Fisher Rbs running for a 100 or more is almost comical.  The Mount D has developed a "swagger" like the U of old.  When a team scores they take it as an insult and I know allowing a TEAM to run for a 100 would cause them to lose sleep.  So to all you Fisher fans good job making it this far see you in the opener next year.  Mount is and will be the most  DOMINANT program that we ever see and will stay that way untill they decide otherwise. 

I'm going to call the NCAA right away and MUC is going to have to forfit those NC's...

That's too funny.  I thought the same thing.

Agreeing with 57?  Ugh, I almost feel soiled now.   

Someone's got to say it...It's still not as many teams as Rocky played on!!!

The best was when Cap and Mount played Rocky's senior senior year, there was a MUC student wearing a dinosaur costume to dress up as Rocky Pentello.  Classic.

[Jonny Utah]

Well I always read this board espically around this time of year but I never post because I get a kick out of others outside the OAC thinking they are better and they will be the ones to knock Mount off.    Lets face it Mount is the only team that can knock Mount off.  They have the BEST team to possibally ever come out of that school.  As a former player thats hard to admit being I played on 5 great teams but this team is dominating everyone in all the stat sheets.  Mount can beat who ever, when ever, by as many as they wish week in and week out. (DIII)  If they wanted to beat every team by 50 LK would call the game that way.  Mount has been so great on the ground throughout the years that a 21pt lead is almost like being ahead 50-0.  Since their D has given up a grand total of 49pts all year a game within 21 (which I dont think is close some do) if Mount scores 4 times its over.  Since teams have had trouble from keeping Mount out of the endzone 7 times a game it looks like Mount wins the Stagg by 20 or more.  The talk about Fisher Rbs running for a 100 or more is almost comical.  The Mount D has developed a "swagger" like the U of old.  When a team scores they take it as an insult and I know allowing a TEAM to run for a 100 would cause them to lose sleep.  So to all you Fisher fans good job making it this far see you in the opener next year.  Mount is and will be the most  DOMINANT program that we ever see and will stay that way untill they decide otherwise. 

I'm going to call the NCAA right away and MUC is going to have to forfit those NC's...

That's too funny.  I thought the same thing.

Agreeing with 57?  Ugh, I almost feel soiled now.   

Someone's got to say it...It's still not as many teams as Rocky played on!!!

The best was when Cap and Mount played Rocky's senior senior year, there was a MUC student wearing a dinosaur costume to dress up as Rocky Pentello.  Classic.

We had a kid that played 6 years (or was on the team for 6 years).  There comes a point in college where you are either there or you are still visiting friends you know where you really tell yourself "you know what.....Im getting too old for this stuff"

[Ric]

I noticed that when you look at team stats comparing 2006 and 2007 in just about every stat Mount Union is better this year than last, while for St. John Fisher, statistically speaking, 2006 was a better year.  Now there can be different reasons for this, but two simple ones are either the team is better or worse, or the competition is better or worse.  For Mount Union I think its both, the competition is a bit down this year, but I also believe this Mount Union team is better than last years. What about St. John Fisher, is the competition that much better or is there another reason for the decline in stats?

[Warren Thompson]

Just out of curiosity, it wonders me what MUC posters might have to say in this room if -- and that's a very large "if," to be sure -- the Raiders will at some point become just another "normal" D3 team (e.g., a winning season one year, 5-5 the next, along with the occasional losing season).

[Frank Rossi]

I noticed that when you look at team stats comparing 2006 and 2007 in just about every stat Mount Union is better this year than last, while for St. John Fisher, statistically speaking, 2006 was a better year.  Now there can be different reasons for this, but two simple ones are either the team is better or worse, or the competition is better or worse.  For Mount Union I think its both, the competition is a bit down this year, but I also believe this Mount Union team is better than last years. What about St. John Fisher, is the competition that much better or is there another reason for the decline in stats?

While I've busted many E8PPers chops throughout the season, I'll admit this much:  Hartwick and Alfred were definitely stronger this year -- as were Rochester and Curry -- Buffalo State was an improvement over Mount Ida schedule-wise -- Ithaca was about the same -- Springfield was down -- King's was down -- and the rest of their schedule was basically status quo.  So, all told, there were five schedule improvements, two disappointments and five status quos.  I think that would definitely point to strength in SJF's schedule this year compared to 2006.

(Edit:  The Curry improvement I guess would be debatable since they technically replaced Springfield from 2006 on SJF's playoff schedule.  However, the crux of my argument remains the same.)

[Knightstalker]

Just out of curiosity, it wonders me what MUC posters might have to say in this room if -- and that's a very large "if," to be sure -- the Raiders will at some point become just another "normal" D3 team (e.g., a winning season one year, 5-5 the next, along with the occasional losing season).

Blasphemer!   

[Frank Rossi]

Just out of curiosity, it wonders me what MUC posters might have to say in this room if -- and that's a very large "if," to be sure -- the Raiders will at some point become just another "normal" D3 team (e.g., a winning season one year, 5-5 the next, along with the occasional losing season).

You've heard of LAKE ONTARIO, I presume.

[Warren Thompson]

Just out of curiosity, it wonders me what MUC posters might have to say in this room if -- and that's a very large "if," to be sure -- the Raiders will at some point become just another "normal" D3 team (e.g., a winning season one year, 5-5 the next, along with the occasional losing season).

Blasphemer!   

"Blasphemer"? Of course, I am and proud of it ... at my age, I can dream, fantasize, and project all I wish to. None can gainsay me. Being an old fart has certain advantages, you see.  

[joelmama]

Mount is and will be the most  DOMINANT program that we ever see and will stay that way untill they decide otherwise. 

Most ridiculous statement of the year?  Mount will continue to dominate until they decide they don't want to dominate anymore.

Ri-ight.

That was quite stupid!

[joelmama]

Just out of curiosity, it wonders me what MUC posters might have to say in this room if -- and that's a very large "if," to be sure -- the Raiders will at some point become just another "normal" D3 team (e.g., a winning season one year, 5-5 the next, along with the occasional losing season).

You've heard of LAKE ONTARIO, I presume.

Around here we call our great lake Erie!

[Jonny Utah]

I noticed that when you look at team stats comparing 2006 and 2007 in just about every stat Mount Union is better this year than last, while for St. John Fisher, statistically speaking, 2006 was a better year.  Now there can be different reasons for this, but two simple ones are either the team is better or worse, or the competition is better or worse.  For Mount Union I think its both, the competition is a bit down this year, but I also believe this Mount Union team is better than last years. What about St. John Fisher, is the competition that much better or is there another reason for the decline in stats?

While I've busted many E8PPers chops throughout the season, I'll admit this much:  Hartwick and Alfred were definitely stronger this year -- as were Rochester and Curry -- Buffalo State was an improvement over Mount Ida schedule-wise -- Ithaca was about the same -- Springfield was down -- King's was down -- and the rest

of their schedule was basically status quo.  So, all told, there were five schedule improvements, two disappointments and five status quos.  I think that would definitely point to strength in SJF's schedule this year compared to 2006.

(Edit:  The Curry improvement I guess would be debatable since they technically replaced Springfield from 2006 on SJF's playoff schedule.  However, the crux of my argument remains the same.)

Was Alfred stronger this year?