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Small but Slow

There are too many factors that can change a game for anyone to really predict what will happen.  If the coaches and players actually knew who was going to win this we could all save ourselves a lot of money and crown the team that gets the most votes champion.  

Redtooth

After reading and listening to Steve Johnson outline his "punch them in the mouth" gameplan earlier today I did a little research on Ric's Mount Union Football website to determine if any teams have recently had success running the ball against Mount.  What I found does not bode well for Bethel (no worries for me as I am pulling for Mount). 

The last two teams to run effectively were MHB in 2004-- 68 carries/308 yards and SJU in 2003-- 48/247 yards.   The SJU rushing effort in 2003 was one part finesse and ten parts Blake Elliott in the backfield on a bad hammy.

What should scare O-Coordinators around the country is a trend at Mount Union that looks like Tiger Woods retooling his swing at the top of his game (see below):

Rushing Yards Allowed Season
2000-- 1340 National Champion
2001-- 1610 National Champion
2002-- 1667 National Champion
2003-- 1509 Lost to SJU in Stagg
2004-- 1051 Lost to MHB in semis
2005-- 1255 National Champion
2006-- 450 National Champion
2007-- 206 Semis now, ??

In the midst of an incredible run of 5 titles in 7 years (going for 6 in 8 ), they have completely eliminated other teams ability to run the ball.  Keep in mind the early years listed were great statistically (100 yards/game)  In the last two seasons they have given up 30 yards/game in 06 to this season giving up 15.8/game not to mention only 59 points all year!!!!  I seem to remember some level of concern amongst Mount Union fans when Montgomery left that the defense would suffer..........Whatever Vince Kehres is cooking on that side of the ball is working.  :o :o :o :o

HScoach

Quote from: Redtooth on December 05, 2007, 06:02:52 PM
After reading and listening to Steve Johnson outline his "punch them in the mouth" gameplan earlier today I did a little research on Ric's Mount Union Football website to determine if any teams have recently had success running the ball against Mount.  What I found does not bode well for Bethel (no worries for me as I am pulling for Mount). 

The last two teams to run effectively were MHB in 2004-- 68 carries/308 yards and SJU in 2003-- 48/247 yards.   The SJU rushing effort in 2003 was one part finesse and ten parts Blake Elliott in the backfield on a bad hammy.

What should scare O-Coordinators around the country is a trend at Mount Union that looks like Tiger Woods retooling his swing at the top of his game (see below):

Rushing Yards Allowed Season
2000-- 1340 National Champion
2001-- 1610 National Champion
2002-- 1667 National Champion
2003-- 1509 Lost to SJU in Stagg
2004-- 1051 Lost to MHB in semis
2005-- 1255 National Champion
2006-- 450 National Champion
2007-- 206 Semis now, ??

In the midst of an incredible run of 5 titles in 7 years (going for 6 in 8 ), they have completely eliminated other teams ability to run the ball.  Keep in mind the early years listed were great statistically (100 yards/game)  In the last two seasons they have given up 30 yards/game in 06 to this season giving up 15.8/game not to mention only 59 points all year!!!!  I seem to remember some level of concern amongst Mount Union fans when Montgomery left that the defense would suffer..........Whatever Vince Kehres is cooking on that side of the ball is working.  :o :o :o :o

What Vince Kehres has cooking is a very "attack oriented" defensive scheme which is the exact opposite of the "play it safe / bend but don't break" scheme that Monty liked.  Which is why you're seeing the rushing numbers go down so much since VK took over.  The MUC defense tries to get into the backfield every play which results in a lot of negative rushing plays as well as QB sacks (56 to date).  Remember that in the NCAA stats the sacks go as negative rushing yards, so the sacks really affect the rushing numbers.

I wish I could take credit for this statement about the MUC defense, but it comes from an ex-player:

It's like V Kehres runs a Nintendo defense.  They blitz on almost every down.
I find easily offended people rather offensive!

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pradierguy

Quote from: hscoach on December 05, 2007, 06:12:02 PM
Quote from: Redtooth on December 05, 2007, 06:02:52 PM
After reading and listening to Steve Johnson outline his "punch them in the mouth" gameplan earlier today I did a little research on Ric's Mount Union Football website to determine if any teams have recently had success running the ball against Mount.  What I found does not bode well for Bethel (no worries for me as I am pulling for Mount). 

The last two teams to run effectively were MHB in 2004-- 68 carries/308 yards and SJU in 2003-- 48/247 yards.   The SJU rushing effort in 2003 was one part finesse and ten parts Blake Elliott in the backfield on a bad hammy.

What should scare O-Coordinators around the country is a trend at Mount Union that looks like Tiger Woods retooling his swing at the top of his game (see below):

Rushing Yards Allowed Season
2000-- 1340 National Champion
2001-- 1610 National Champion
2002-- 1667 National Champion
2003-- 1509 Lost to SJU in Stagg
2004-- 1051 Lost to MHB in semis
2005-- 1255 National Champion
2006-- 450 National Champion
2007-- 206 Semis now, ??

In the midst of an incredible run of 5 titles in 7 years (going for 6 in 8 ), they have completely eliminated other teams ability to run the ball.  Keep in mind the early years listed were great statistically (100 yards/game)  In the last two seasons they have given up 30 yards/game in 06 to this season giving up 15.8/game not to mention only 59 points all year!!!!  I seem to remember some level of concern amongst Mount Union fans when Montgomery left that the defense would suffer..........Whatever Vince Kehres is cooking on that side of the ball is working.  :o :o :o :o

What Vince Kehres has cooking is a very "attack oriented" defensive scheme which is the exact opposite of the "play it safe / bend but don't break" scheme that Monty liked.  Which is why you're seeing the rushing numbers go down so much since VK took over.  The MUC defense tries to get into the backfield every play which results in a lot of negative rushing plays as well as QB sacks (56 to date).  Remember that in the NCAA stats the sacks go as negative rushing yards, so the sacks really affect the rushing numbers.

I wish I could take credit for this statement about the MUC defense, but it comes from an ex-player:

It's like V Kehres runs a Nintendo defense.  They blitz on almost every down.

I think Patrick McCullough really likes Vince's system  :). 84 tackles, 21.5 TFL, and 12 sacks. What a monster

bushman

One thing I've noticed this year about MUC's team is that they have an abundance of speed on both sides of the ball.  This x factor I believe will pull them through in the next two games.  As WW had no answer for PG last year, neither will BU this year.  Its star time plus speed to burn!  Run Nate Run!  Mt's defense gets a lot of attention, but don't underestimate their offense.  To win against Mt. stop their offense.  I personally do not see any team doing that this year.  Woe to the foe if LK opens up the playbook.  They are SCARY.
"When you lose, say nothing.  When you win, say even less."   Paul Brown

Freebird

Redtooth,

Did you run out of sour grapes to eat while sitting at home and then decide to jump on the bandwagon of MUC? Sounds like your moto is if you can't play them join them? Pretty lame. Enjoy the karma but don't forget to whip the brown from your lips.

Freebird

This is my input on the game.

I really think we/bethel will need to establish the PASS to open up the RUN. The pass threat is very underrated due to how effective our running is. We have a run first offense with O line that excel at pulling and blocking. But they also block very well when Ben drops back to pass.

Just my two cents. Thoughts?

purple

 Here is some news..LK is the new kickoff coverage coach this week.Seems he "fired" assistants after a third  Raider  kickoff was returned near the 50."I'm the new kickoff coach." he said.

theaprof

Quote from: Thefreebird on December 05, 2007, 08:22:12 PM
This is my input on the game.

I really think we/bethel will need to establish the PASS to open up the RUN. The pass threat is very underrated due to how effective our running is. We have a run first offense with O line that excel at pulling and blocking. But they also block very well when Ben drops back to pass.

Just my two cents. Thoughts?

Yeah--good luck with that.  I suppose no other team has been smart enough to try that approach.  What were they thinking? ::) ::)

I'll be very surprised if Bethel can "establish" anything against our D.  They may have some success a few times with big plays (yeah right!)--they may even score a touchdown or two, but I seriously doubt that they will establish anything well enough to open up something else.
Reloading--Again, and again, and again....

HURFMUC

Quote from: purple on December 05, 2007, 08:24:54 PM
Here is some news..LK is the new kickoff coverage coach this week.Seems he "fired" assistants after a third  Raider  kickoff was returned near the 50."I'm the new kickoff coach." he said.
How do you know LK is the new kickoff coach

mtfan

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HURFMUC
does something here sound familiar? LOL whew

Jaypeter
Ithaca was the highest rated pass offense that Mount has played, and will play in the playoffs the remainder. This Saturday will be the warm up for stopping the run game that MHB will throw at us, provided they're the ones loading luggage for for the following saturday!

Tags

You can run & throw on this MUC defense, but there are two issues:

1) They tighten up like no other in the red zone, so good luck with that.
2) You can't stop their offense, so good luck with that.

And yes, by run I mean 50-100 yards, but still that's enough to keep them honest.

Tags

Also... I know most of you are in love with this year's defense, but from what I saw between last year's Fisher game vs. this years, I truly liked last year's defense better.

purple


HURFMUC

mtfan

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