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[Toph]

CSTV WEB SITE IS SAYING THAT KC KEELER  (NO S**T) IS A STRONG CANDIDATE AT MICHIGAN......ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

a REAL reason to hate Michigan

YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN 33 TIMES!!!  Gee, I'm glad that Ap State beat Michigan this fall.  Please everybody root for Ap State against KC and the Delaware Blue Hens.  I hate to think of that creep getting anything good in life.

Why would you be mad at KC, when he was proven correct in 2001? Rowan got screwed.  If the roles were reversed should I hate the Bridgewater coach?  Come on give me a break.   

Two things:  You could hate the Bridgewater clock operator, I doubt the coach had anything to do with it.  And I doubt the clock operator is as full of himself as KC.  People hate KC because he's a pompous jerk.

[JT]

phil

Toph didn't say Keeler's racist; he said Keeler's a blatant narcissist.  Toph was referring to the fact that Delaware as an athletic program is racist (as evidenced by their handling of the proposed and quickly rejected regular season contests Del St. has been trying to get together for years).  This has been reported on by ESPN and national news agencies throughout this year.   



And after this weekend KC Keeler will have another connection with Michigan...in losing to Appalachian State.

RC-  Thanks.

phil-  I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth.  As far as I know, Keeler is not racist.  I can't say the same about the University of Delaware's athletic program and its boosters.

It certainly wouldn't be Keeler's fault.  He has a proven track record of playing anyone while at Rowan.   Much of his success is due to recruiting black players, so I seriously doubt he's racist. 

[Knightstalker]

CSTV WEB SITE IS SAYING THAT KC KEELER  (NO S**T) IS A STRONG CANDIDATE AT MICHIGAN......ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

a REAL reason to hate Michigan

YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN 33 TIMES!!!  Gee, I'm glad that Ap State beat Michigan this fall.  Please everybody root for Ap State against KC and the Delaware Blue Hens.  I hate to think of that creep getting anything good in life.

Why would you be mad at KC, when he was proven correct in 2001? Rowan got screwed.  If the roles were reversed should I hate the Bridgewater coach?  Come on give me a break.   

Two things:  You could hate the Bridgewater clock operator, I doubt the coach had anything to do with it.  And I doubt the clock operator is as full of himself as KC.  People hate KC because he's a pompous jerk.

Yeah Keeler is arrogant but he was always pleasant to the NJCU fans and Players when ever Rowan played the Knights either in JC or Glassboro and was never a pompous jerk.  That includes the year that NJCU beat Rowan in Glassboro, he was not too happy with his team, but shook coach Millers hand, they chatted heading off the field and he congratulated NJCU players for maybe the biggest win in NJCU football history.  I also ran into him at basketball games at Rowan and he would say hi and chat with fans.

[JT]

CSTV WEB SITE IS SAYING THAT KC KEELER  (NO S**T) IS A STRONG CANDIDATE AT MICHIGAN......ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

a REAL reason to hate Michigan

YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN 33 TIMES!!!  Gee, I'm glad that Ap State beat Michigan this fall.  Please everybody root for Ap State against KC and the Delaware Blue Hens.  I hate to think of that creep getting anything good in life.

Why would you be mad at KC, when he was proven correct in 2001? Rowan got screwed.  If the roles were reversed should I hate the Bridgewater coach?  Come on give me a break.   

Two things:  You could hate the Bridgewater clock operator, I doubt the coach had anything to do with it.  And I doubt the clock operator is as full of himself as KC.  People hate KC because he's a pompous jerk.

He may be very very cocky, but he can back it up.  Jimmy Johnson was quite similar before he got all cute and cuddly on FOX.  I know KC rubs certain people the wrong way, but the man can recruit and he can coach.  You don't get to be 8-1 in DI playoffs with a National title on luck.  Had things worked out in Bridgewater, he might have nabbed his first DIII title as well.

Not every successful coach is as mild mannered as LK. 

I don't blame the clock operator.  I blame the NCAC officials who failed to do their jobs on the field with regard to the timing error.  There are always fail safes on the field for scoreboard clock issues.  The back judge has the clock on his wrist, and usually another official has backup to the back judge in college.

[Small but Slow]

Keeler is not the first, and definitely not the last to be disliked by rivals (or just random opponents).  It's nice to see humble guys, such as a Ron Zook, have success and receive recognition.  LK's respect for opposing teams and coaches along with his humility have aided in the longevity of his success.  A narcissistic coach can have success at a school on a short term basis, but long term success is not likely.

[Knightstalker]

CSTV WEB SITE IS SAYING THAT KC KEELER  (NO S**T) IS A STRONG CANDIDATE AT MICHIGAN......ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

a REAL reason to hate Michigan

YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN 33 TIMES!!!  Gee, I'm glad that Ap State beat Michigan this fall.  Please everybody root for Ap State against KC and the Delaware Blue Hens.  I hate to think of that creep getting anything good in life.

Why would you be mad at KC, when he was proven correct in 2001? Rowan got screwed.  If the roles were reversed should I hate the Bridgewater coach?  Come on give me a break.   

Two things:  You could hate the Bridgewater clock operator, I doubt the coach had anything to do with it.  And I doubt the clock operator is as full of himself as KC.  People hate KC because he's a pompous jerk.

He may be very very cocky, but he can back it up.  Jimmy Johnson was quite similar before he got all cute and cuddly on FOX.  I know KC rubs certain people the wrong way, but the man can recruit and he can coach.  You don't get to be 8-1 in DI playoffs with a National title on luck.  Had things worked out in Bridgewater, he might have nabbed his first DIII title as well.

Not every successful coach is as mild mannered as LK. 

I don't blame the clock operator.  I blame the NCAC officials who failed to do their jobs on the field with regard to the timing error.  There are always fail safes on the field for scoreboard clock issues.  The back judge has the clock on his wrist, and usually another official has backup to the back judge in college.

These guys would have hated Roy Kotite, I mean Miller at NJCU, his head used to almost explode.  Of course when you are the head coach of St. Peters and NJCU it is surprising if your head doesn't explode.  How must it feel to be the man who helped drive two programs to extinction.  Sorry I wandered there for a second.

[Knightstalker]

Keeler is not the first, and definitely not the last to be disliked by rivals (or just random opponents).  It's nice to see humble guys, such as a Ron Zook, have success and receive recognition.  LK's respect for opposing teams and coaches along with his humility have aided in the longevity of his success.  A narcissistic coach can have success at a school on a short term basis, but long term success is not likely.

If Tubby Raymond had not retired KC would probably still be at Rowan and he would still be contending.

[HScoach]

Since I'm a numbers-guy and there is a yearly discussion on the relative strength of conference schedules and playoff regions, I thought I take a look at the statistics for Mount Union and Whitewater contrast them as regular season versus playoffs. 

I think it's safe to assume that everyone agrees that the WIAC is a tougher league (more balanced) top to bottom than the OAC, so you would expect Mount's numbers to come down in the playoffs and possibly UWW's numbers to go up.  But the question is by how much?  It's also safe to assume that the WIAC and OAC in most years have better 2nd, 3rd, 4th place teams that are better than many of the playoff qualifiers.  Though this year I don't buy it in the OAC because of the lack of QB's in conference.  However the OAC had some very good defenses this season (Capital, ONU and BW).

I further believe that the playoff opponents for UWW and MUC are pretty even strength wise.  No doubt that UWW had a much better Semi-Final opponent in MHB than MUC did in Bethel, but MUC had a tougher Regional Final against SJF than UWW did against Wabash.  I would further suppose that Round 1 was pretty close with Ithaca and Capital being pretty solid teams (though in different ways).  Same with Round 2, both decent opponents but completely outclassed by UWW and MUC.


Playoff Games vs. Regular Season   

MOUNT UNION
-17.5 yds / Total Offense (gained)
+143.5 yds / Total Defense (surrendered)
-7 yds / Rush Offense (gained)
42 yds / Rush Defense(surrendered)
-7 / Pass Offense(gained)
14 / Pass Efficiency Defense(surrendered)
4 / Pass Efficiency Offense(gained)
-0.35 / Scoring Offense(gained)
9.85 / Scoring Defense(surrendered)
0 / Turnover Margin
   
   
   
WHITEWATER
Not ranked / Total Offense (gained)
-7 / Total Defense (surrendered)
38.5 / Rush Offense (gained)
-24.5 / Rush Defense(surrendered)
Not ranked / Pass Offense(gained)
-2 / Pass Efficiency Defense(surrendered)
Not ranked / Pass Efficiency Offense(gained)
7.05 / Scoring Offense(gained)
0.8 / Scoring Defense(surrendered)
1.05 / Turnover Margin
   

SUMMARY? 
Well, it confirms that the WIAC has presented a tougher challenge to Whitewater than they've seen to date in the playoffs.  And it confirms that Mount's regular season was much easier than their playoff opponents. 

Surprisingly, the defensive numbers on Mount are way, WAY up when compared to the regular season.  Specifically 143 yds and 10 points more given up per game in the playoffs, which tells me that the Mount defense got fat on some really poor offenses in the regular season.  The Mount offensive numbers are almost identical and point to the MUC offense being well prepared for the playoffs.

For Whitewater, they are maintaining most of their defensive averages while IMPROVING their offensive numbers, especially scoring at +7 per game.

What I find very interesting, and confirms my belief that this is going to be a much closer game than most think, is how close the playoff stats for both teams are.

Total Defense:  MUC = 260 yds   /   UWW = 261 yds
Rush Offense:  MUC = 264 yds   /   UWW = 249 yds
Rush Defense:  MUC = 54 yds   /   UWW = 63 yds
Scoring Defense:   MUC = 12.2   /   UWW = 14.0

The big difference offensively is the MUC passing game, but given the weather forecast of "70% chance of freezing rain", the passing game might be best left in the hotel.

Clearly both teams will be facing their toughest opponent since they hooked up in the last Stagg.  Just like it should be!

Good luck to all traveling to Salem, VA.

[JT]

Keeler is not the first, and definitely not the last to be disliked by rivals (or just random opponents).  It's nice to see humble guys, such as a Ron Zook, have success and receive recognition.  LK's respect for opposing teams and coaches along with his humility have aided in the longevity of his success.  A narcissistic coach can have success at a school on a short term basis, but long term success is not likely.

Keeler seems to get along fine with his coaching peers and opponents. He's not perfect, but he's not the demon that the OAC makes him out to be.  You can't be a complete jackass and succeed as a head coach... unless you are Petrino or Sabin.

[Toph]

Keeler is not the first, and definitely not the last to be disliked by rivals (or just random opponents).  It's nice to see humble guys, such as a Ron Zook, have success and receive recognition.  LK's respect for opposing teams and coaches along with his humility have aided in the longevity of his success.  A narcissistic coach can have success at a school on a short term basis, but long term success is not likely.

KC has been successful for a decent amount of time.  Delaware is contending (and often playing) for the national title almost every year.  Rowan was a perrenial playoff team, and if not for a little home cooking, he'd probably 1-5 in Stagg Bowls.

[phil]

hscoach,
Nice compilation of stats. Now if we are to believe the East Region is as weak as everybody likes to point out (to those of us in the East Region)... where does this leave us?

[Toph]

hscoach,
Nice compilation of stats. Now if we are to believe the East Region is as weak as everybody likes to point out (to those of us in the East Region)... where does this leave us?

On the pile with everyone else that Mount has destroyed this season?

The only game that was "competitive" (and that's a stretch) was the Ithaca game.  TCNJ and SJF both got their doors blown off.

[seventiesraider]

Considering all the hoopla about Justin Beaver, how amazing is it Nate Kmic has over 5000 yards as a Junior and hardly played during the regular season of his Freshman year?  Nate's per carry average is significantly higher, his losses are lower and he has done it with much less playing time.

and before anybody posts it, I remember that Beaver missed part of last season.

[footballfan413]

Considering all the hoopla about Justin Beaver, how amazing is it Nate Kmic has over 5000 yards as a Junior and hardly played during the regular season of his Freshman year?  Nate's per carry average is significantly higher, his losses are lower and he has done it with much less playing time.

and before anybody posts it, I remember that Beaver missed part of last season.

On this day, an amazing young man will be awarded the highest honor in D3 football.  This "hoopla about Justin," is credit given to a completely deserving student -athlete.  Did you read the article on the front page?  I would suggest humbly and sincerely that maybe for this day, there could be a moratorium on the, "whose got the better running back," talk.  This day is about Beaver.  Kmic is very talented and his time will come. 

[footballfan413]

Oh, and Beaver missed 5 games last season and only had 50 carries in 04 due to a serious hamstring injury that kept him out most of the season.