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HScoach

Maybe this will finally bring "NationalChampion" out of the woodwork?
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Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: section13raiderfan on May 07, 2008, 03:27:20 PM
So the Question is.....How long till LK gets his name submitted for the honor? And just who IS permitted to submit nominations anyways?

From the NFF Website:

Quote5. A coach becomes eligible three years after retirement or immediately following retirement provided he is at least 70 years of age. Active coaches become eligible at 75 years of age. He must have been a head coach for a minimum of 10 years and coached at least 100 games with a .600 winning percentage*.

So, we have to wait for LK to retire + 3 years, wait for him to retire after he turns 70, or for him to keep coaching until he is 75 years old.  :)
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JK

"ONLY" .600?  C'mon...that's nothing for LK.  Unless he has a run of 0-10 seasons, I think his career winning percentage will be safely above that threshold.

Does he still have above a .900 career winning percentage?  Pretty sure he does.  Sure enough that I won't check Ric's site to make sure.  Also sure that one of you Mounties will answer for me  ;D

Interesting anecdote:  A few years ago when I was at Fort Sill (that's in Oklahoma for you non military guys), the local sports station asked a trivia question.  "What NCAA coach has the highest career winning percentage?"  AS you know, OK doesn't have any D3 teams, so I was sure that they didn't mean "in any division."  But, they didn't say that.  So, I called in with my Larry Kehres answer.  They replied "Who?"  I told them LK was the coach at Mount Union in Ohio, the D3 school that had broken Oklahoma's consecutive victories streak, and that he had a career winning percentage over .900.  They didn't believe me, so I challenged them to look it up.  Their producer did, right on the spot, and confirmed my answer.  I won dinner for two and a friendship with the hosts that continues to this day.  Later on that season, they told me that they had watched the D3 championship game on ESPN, their first experience with D3 football, and they had a newfound respect for small school Football.

By the way, the answer they were looking for was Bob Pruitt from Marshall, who was in his last season there and who, of course, was bolstered by a 1-AA championship and several MAC titles before he retired and Marshall went on to become an uncompetitive C-USA team.  I believe Pruitt's career winning percentage at the time as .750-ish.

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HScoach

Quote from: JK on May 07, 2008, 10:44:55 PM
Does he still have above a .900 career winning percentage?  Pretty sure he does.  Sure enough that I won't check Ric's site to make sure.  Also sure that one of you Mounties will answer for me  ;D

260-21-3

92.08%

;D
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Statistics are like bikinis; what they reveal is interesting, what they hide is essential.

jaypeter

Taken from the article on Colts.com:

"As a senior, he caught 67 passes for 955 yards and 14 touchdowns, earning All-OAC honors for a third consecutive season. He also caught two second-half touchdowns in the Stagg Bowl, leading Mount Union to the Division III national title."

I knew that was a bad dream I saw up there in Virginia.

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: hscoach on May 08, 2008, 07:36:51 AM
Quote from: JK on May 07, 2008, 10:44:55 PM
Does he still have above a .900 career winning percentage?  Pretty sure he does.  Sure enough that I won't check Ric's site to make sure.  Also sure that one of you Mounties will answer for me  ;D

260-21-3

92.08%

;D

That was prior to the 2007 season (14-1):

274-22-3

92.57% (I think, I didn't include the ties and don't remember how they are counted).
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runyr

Quote from: repete on May 07, 2008, 02:27:45 PM
Congrats to Jim Ballard on the National Football Foundation & College Hall of Fame selection ...
Many cheers for Jim Ballard!  That's great.  8)
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Small but Slow

LK's record is even more incredible is that he lost 7 of his 22 games in his second and third seasons.  I didn't have the privilege of seeing Borchert play in person his final two seasons, but he definitely is worthy.  Borchert has the records and rings, but in my mind Jim Ballard has to be among the best DIII QB's of all time.  At times he played like a man amongst a bunch of boys. I may not be a great judge of talent, though, I was certain he would make it in the NFL.

section13raiderfan

I know this is sour grapes but......on A TV trivia show they once asked "What QB is the NCAA all time leader for touchdowns thrown in a season?" . This was right after Bill Borchert set the record, and of course their correct answer was not Billy B.  I guess the NCAA record book didnt credit D3 records.

I wonder if Dan Pugh will ever be recognized for breaking Barry Sanders record for touchdowns in a season. Ive used that one as a trivia question a couple of times myself....and nobody believes me when I give em the answer.  And then when I say Im sure....I SAW THEM ALL.... I still get disbelief.  ::)

I am not a number crunching type, but I wonder if any school has had 3 consecutive running backs.....Moore, Pugh, Kmic.....roll up the kind of production those guys have? Maybe Ric can calculate the totals for comparisons sake? If they had played 4 quarters every game the numbers would be untouchable....but they are probably way up there anyways.

TheeBuffaloSabres

HA, the numbers would be mind boggling. I will tell you though, many times i thought to myself why are we even playing, when the score was like 66-0 in the second quarter (musk i think) wasnt it like 45-0 in the first or something ridiculous like that? it was so bad that a fumbled kickoff popped right into Chas' hands as he was running fullspeed and just ran through the endzone. Bryson Davis looked at me, and gave me a smile that read "that did not just happen"
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seventiesraider

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Quote from: Small but Slow on May 08, 2008, 01:35:30 PM
LK's record is even more incredible is that he lost 7 of his 22 games in his second and third seasons.  I didn't have the privilege of seeing Borchert play in person his final two seasons, but he definitely is worthy.  Borchert has the records and rings, but in my mind Jim Ballard has to be among the best DIII QB's of all time.  At times he played like a man amongst a bunch of boys. I may not be a great judge of talent, though, I was certain he would make it in the NFL.

And a large percentage of the remaining losses are post season including two Stagg Bowl losses. Not much in the way of regular season losses between BW in the 90's and ONU a decade or so later. 8)
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JK

Just to put it into perspective...

Earlier I mentioned that LK would have to have a run of 0-10 seasons for his career winning percentage to fall below .600. 

Well, MUC would have to lose every game for the better part of TWO DECADES- 18.5 years, to be exact, for LK's career winning percentage to fall below .600.  If LK lost 185 straight games, his career winning percentage would dip to .596.

Seriously, is that ridiculous or what?

matblake

Quote from: JK on May 09, 2008, 10:16:21 AM
Just to put it into perspective...

Earlier I mentioned that LK would have to have a run of 0-10 seasons for his career winning percentage to fall below .600. 

Well, MUC would have to lose every game for the better part of TWO DECADES- 18.5 years, to be exact, for LK's career winning percentage to fall below .600.  If LK lost 185 straight games, his career winning percentage would dip to .596.

Seriously, is that ridiculous or what?


That is amazing. 

Mugsy

Quote from: JK on May 09, 2008, 10:16:21 AM
Just to put it into perspective...

Earlier I mentioned that LK would have to have a run of 0-10 seasons for his career winning percentage to fall below .600. 

Well, MUC would have to lose every game for the better part of TWO DECADES- 18.5 years, to be exact, for LK's career winning percentage to fall below .600.  If LK lost 185 straight games, his career winning percentage would dip to .596.

Seriously, is that ridiculous or what?


Assuming of course that a coach wouldn't be fired well before reaching a losing streak of 185 games! :P

Absolutely amazing.
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