FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[ONUBearbacker]

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You're right ONUBearback.....now that the Rams aren't competitive with CJ anymore, its not as big a deal for me.
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That must have been back in my day! I'm a C-J alum, one of the early year classes.... can you hear my old bones creakin??

[SaintsFAN]

ditto...I played on Terry Malone's last great team...in 1994

[purple]

 I'm sure the Purples D-line will be good.They really can't be as good as the tandems we've had recently.The pair of Wells and Wolf was so good ,I thought I'd never see better.Then came Patrick McCollugh and Nick Parr,two great players.All four of those guys will end up in the M-Club HOF.

[reality check]

Wow I had no idea the CJ/ONU connection was so well-represented here. 2

Badin was competitive at some point?

ONUBearBacker

Did you attend ONU?  Play there?  I'm curious the connection.

CJ c/o 1999.  ONU c/o 2003.

[ONUBearbacker]

Reality:

You are a youngster!

C-J c/o 1978 and ONU football parent... 2 Polar Bear sons (1 Jr., 1 Fr.) and one very financially depleted parent!!!!

[beenhit2hard]

 Purple ,

           you seemed to not remember the one and only "B.J.Payne"in your list of great ones........,,and many others. and yes ,,there are young ones waiting their turns !! Some people said the 96 line was the best,,and they were good,,but so have been most of MUC'S  d lines !!  Mike Hallett was quite good so was Jim Eisman ,,,and too many more to mention.just mho.

[reality check]

bearbacker

Check your private messages. 

[purple]

 Beenhit...your right.I was thinking of the most recent tandems.There are too many to mention over the last ten years.

[JK]

All this talk of who MUC's best two DT's ever led me down the road to creating the Capital University All-Time team.  I have all the names, but am in the process of compiling the years at Cap and the applicable stats for justifying their selections.  I will unveil the team later, but here is the basic makeup of the team:

2 QB
3 RB
4 WR
6 OL
1 TE
1 K
5 DL
4 LB
5 DB
1 P

also, I selected my choices to coach this team: HC, OC, and DC...

Anyone interested in doing this for your rooting interest?  It really didn't take me much time- about an hour and a half or so.

I would think limiting the number of players to fit the above "team" would be pretty hard for MUC fans.  I would think the 2 QB's for MUC would HAVE to be Ballard and Borchert, but that would leave a lot of guys out, like Woolf, Adamson, Smeck, etc. who have pretty solid resumes.   

[HScoach]

Here's my MUC team based on your parameters:

2 QB = Jim Ballard '93 and Bill Borchert '97 (these 2 are head & shoulders above the rest)

3 RB = Chuck Moore '01, Nate Kmic '08 and Dan Pugh '02 (another easy one)

4 WR = Ed Bubonics '93, Adam Marino '00, Pierre Garcon '07 and Reiko Gollate '97 (Reiko makes it over Kershner, Knestrick, etc based on his 21 TD season)

6 OL = Jason Gerber '00, Derek Blanchard '07, Jason Lewis '06, Joe Weimer '96, Bill Rychel '00 and J.W. Wearley '98 (a ton of great O-linemen left off)

1 TE = Rob Atwood '93 (some great TE's get left off, specifically Brian Tyla and Adam Irgang)

1 K = Rodney Chenos '00 (Ken Edelman was a close 2nd, but Chenos has "The Kick")

5 DL = Mike Hallett '93, Matt Campbell '02, Justin Stickley '05, Matt Domin '99 and Rich Dine '94 (Hardest group to pick.  Buddy Wolf, Todd Braden, Jim Eismon, Jim Frink, Antoine Dillard, Johnny Josef, etc all got consideration)

4 LB = Jason Hall '98, Rob Rogers '93, Mark Black and Shaun Spisak '04 (4th spot was hard.  DeRiggi was such a physical speciman)

5 DB = Chris Kern '02, Mike Miller '03, Ross Watson '05, Sean Moore and Kris Bugara '98

1 P = this team wouldn't need a punter.  Ever.

[JK]

See, you could do a MUC team strictly from the last 15 years and leave off a TON of really great players from years past.  Ken Edelman is the only person you even mentioned from pre-NC days.  I don't disagree with any of your RB's (how could I), but what about Russ Kring?  Jim Gresko?  What about some other guys from the 80's or earlier.  I know as a team, MUC is much better now than then, but are today's players just that superior that NO ONE from pre 93 gets on the MUC all time team?

[JK]

what about your all time coaches for this all time team?  Would you go LK as HC, LK as OC and monty as DC, or would you go Wable as HC and LK as OC only?

[reality check]

In ONU news...

Jamal Robertson officially made the Argos roster and will most likely be the number two running back but should see plenty of the field.


ONU is ranked 19th in the USA Today Pre-Season Poll announced today.  Some school named Mount Union is predictably number one (boring) and Capital is sitting at number seven.



I'll have my all-ONU list because I love a challenge in a bit...

[JK]

Here is my Capital All Time team:

pos- name (years at Cap)- AA is 1st team all- american, OAC is first team all-OAC only.  The OAC Special awards are the Gregory- best back and best lineman, the Hornemann- Best DL, the Edwards- Best LB, and the Tressel- best DB.  The Rimington Award is given to the best offensive center in the Nation; stats from Cap 2007 media guide

The Offense:

QB- Rocky Pentello (02-06)- AA: 03, 06; OAC: 06; Gregory awd: 06; #1 Cap passing: 12,126 yds; #1 Cap total off: 12,569; TDs-111
QB- Shawn Wheeler (96-99)- #2 Cap career passing yards- 6, 669 yds, 42 TD passes
RB- Rayshaun Gayles (00-02)- OAC 01, 02, #1 Cap career rushing- 2,287 yds
RB- Ed Garver (54-57)- AA: 57; OAC: 56,57; #2 Cap career rushing- 2,190 yds
RB- Al White (58-60)- OAC: 59; #3 Cap career rushing- 1,858 yds, #3 Cap career KOR- 990 yds (27.5 ypr), single season records for points (105 in '59), TD's (17 in '59) and rushing TD's (14 in '59)
WR- Keith Willike (84-87)- AA: 87, OAC: 86, 87, Gregory awd: 87; #1 Career rcvg- 2,389 yds; season record 1,331 yds in 1987
WR- Lewis Howes (2005)- AA:05, OAC: 05, #3 season rcvg yds- 1,021 in only season, Cap season record 84 catches in 05
WR- Rob DeJarnette (88-91)- Cap #6 career rcvg- 1,732 yds, 18.5 ypc for career highest in Cap history, #1 Cap career KOR- 1,694 yds
WR- Chris Copeland (97-00)- Cap #2 career rcvg- 2,272 yds, #1 career catches- 204
TE- Kive Kraft (02-05)- AA: 05; OAC: 05; #9 Cap career rcvg yds- 1,540
OL- Tom Trace (90-93)- AA: 93, OAC: 93
OL- Greg Arnold (71-74)- AA: 74; OAC: 72, 73, 74, Gregory award: 74
OL- Tom Doyle (02-03)- AA: 03, OAC: 03, Rimington Trophy: 03
OL- Tom McCurdy (75-78)- AA: 78; OAC: 76, 77, 78
OL- Russ Reynolds (76-79)- AA: 79, OAC: 78, 79
OL- Steve Wigton (77-80)- AA: 80; OAC: 80, Gregory awd: 80
K- Manny Matsakis (80-83)- OAC 81, 82, 83; 54 yd FG longest in Cap history, 4 FG in one game

The defense:

DL- Keith Boucher (90-93)- AA: 93; OAC: 91, 93
DL- Mike Kauffeld (85-88)- AA: 88, OAC 87, 88; Hoernemann award: 88
DL- Leon Simpson (65-67)- AA: 67; OAC: 66-67
DL- Nick Bucci (05-07)- OAC: 06, Cap season record 11.5 sacks in 06
DL- Bill Fannin (91-92)- AA: 92
LB- Ron Swearingin (00-03)- AA: 01, 02, 03, OAC: 01, 02, 03; Edwards awd: 03; 146 tackles in 01 Cap season record
LB- Mike Eberhardt (84-87)- AA: 87; OAC: 87; Hoernemann awd: 87
LB- Murphy Moultry (63-66)- AA: 66; OAC: 65, 66
LB- Joel Sickmeier (04-05)- AA: 05, OAC:05
DB- Kyle Hausler (02-06)- AA: 02, 04, 05; OAC: 04, 05; Tressel Awd: 05; 23 career INT- Cap and OAC record, 10 INT- 2002- Cap season record
DB- Keith Szanto (84-87)- AA: 87, OAC: 87, Tressel Awd: 87; 15 career INT- #6 Cap all time
DB- Bill Kaikis (88-91)- AA: 90, OAC: 90, 91; Tressel Awd: 91; 19 career INT- #3 Cap all time
DB- James Starks (04-06)- AA: 06; OAC: 06
DB- Thom Hausler (02-06)- OAC: 06; #1 Cap career Punt Ret yds- 1,026; #2 Cap career KOR yds- 1,688; 100 yd INT ret in 2003
P- Adam Hicks (99-02)- AA: 02; OAC: 02; 36.2 yd career avg; 6,013 yds career total

The coaches:

Head: Gene Slaughter (61-85)- 120-94-3 career record, all time leader in wins, 1970 OAC Coach of year, 1970 stagg bowl champs
Off Coord: Jim Collins (97-07)- 66-51 as HC; also own OC- offense holds 13 single season records ; 11 wins in 06 is most in cap history, OAC COY 01, 03, 06
Def Coord: Roger Welsh (86-96)- 41-65 as HC; DC from 83-91, OAC COY in 87, OAC Champs (only Cap championship) in 87

[theaprof]

hscoach--do you have a center on your o-line?  I would have to nominate Tom Bauer (sp?) for that specific position--first player that I know of from MUC to be invited to the Hula Bowl.