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[PRP96]

SJF Fan,

Were you referring to the 1 loss of UWW or to the 4 losses of SJF?  Which of course includes a triple pounding by Mt.  If we go by your math, a 10 point loss is a pounding, so a 30 pointer is 3 times that....

[SJF Fan]

Wow, good one. .

Clearly the math and logic program at MUC is strong as ever.

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[PRP96]

Clever response SJF Fan!  Did you stay up all night thinking that one up?  If you liked my math, how about some more?  I'll even let you decide which numbers to talk about.

1)  3-0 As in MUC is a perfect 3 and 0 against SJF

or:

2) 111-27  As in the 111 points MUC has scored against SJF and the 27 points SJF has scored in those same 3 games.

Let me know what you decide.

[pumkinattack]

Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving yesterday.  I'm also hopeful that MUC overate and come out a little sluggish tommorrow.  

Hobart's game notes for those that are interested:  http://www.hwsathletics.com/documents/2008/11/26/MUC.pdf

Hobart has quietly been one of the most consistent teams in the East this decade.  They haven't had one great season like RPI in 2003 or SJF in 2006, but they've tied or won their conference 6 straight years and made the playoffs 7 of the last 9.  They've had some great athletes over the years, but kind of just win.  Never really throw up impressive scores.  They may end up overmatched, but they'll scratch their way to respectability in this game I think.  The fans will probably mostly be parents as the school isn't a big football school (hopefully one will stay home, right Keith) - its a lacrosse school with a large New England contingency that is somewhat apathetic towards football unfortunately.  As someone mentioned before here, we do party with the best of them.  

People were asking either here or on an east board and a couple have mentioned Aruck.  The ILB's are pretty strong - on paper Hager doesn't look imposing at 6'1", 205, but he's a tremendous athlete who is also the DI lacrosse team's best defenseman.  Sanders is the more physical of the two and probably the one more likely to get beat in pass coverage (not slow, but slower than Hager).  Woodard, Lovell, Robinson and Boyington are the other defensive players of note.  On offense, Vincent is probably the best weapon.  He makes tough catches as does Schulz on jump balls.  We lost a great pass catching TE, Matt Duliba, to a knee injury in week 9 as well as 1A of the RB's - Anthony Hobaica.  I actually think Marlier (a transfer from Illinois St., but not sure he was a meaningful part of the team there) is better with 20+ carries, but he's only gotten that twice all year.  The FB will get a couple of carries, but its going to be a lot of 3 & 4 WR sets.  

[SJF Fan]

Clever response SJF Fan!  Did you stay up all night thinking that one up?  If you liked my math, how about some more?  I'll even let you decide which numbers to talk about.

1)  3-0 As in MUC is a perfect 3 and 0 against SJF

or:

2) 111-27  As in the 111 points MUC has scored against SJF and the 27 points SJF has scored in those same 3 games.

Let me know what you decide.

Yep - you're one of the brightest ones out there in good 'ole Alliance.

This has already been covered long, long ago - and due to SJF not being in the NCAAs this year doesn't really matter mcuh.  Now if you could tell me the score next Sept. when we play and beat MUC on our home turf, then you'd be impressive.

Hobart and Cortland are the East's last hope for '08 to give a game to MUC.

[SJF Fan]

pumkin - good write up and all true.

Hobart has been one of, if not the  most consistently good program in the East - just haven't had a great one yet.

Hope they can represent the East a little better than the other teams you guys have faced and beaten.

[BuckeyeRaider]

SJF Fan is showing his ignorance on multiple boards today.  He's posted over on the LL board that MUC's weakness is "speed".

Lol, everyone loves to use "speed" as a weakness of every Ohio team. 

Here's a prediction for the game at SJF next year for you.  Mount Union 44 - SJF 7.  That will be closer to the final score than any prediction Mr. SJF Fan will make.

[seventiesraider]

Yes, they do have a loss - it happens when you play in a real conference. . 

SJF must be in a fabulous conference. 

Buckeye-If we don't travel the JV's I'm not sure we'll be under fifty even with a whole new backfield, since that "new" backfield will be Juniors and Seniors, including the young man who rushed for over 100 yards in the 2nd half against Marietta.

[kickerdad]

that article is hilarious. the guy talks about how players from opposing teams dread even stepping on to the field against mt. union. i don't know why anyone would! you have a chance to play the best of the best in DIII. i personally enjoyed playing mount, especially up at their place (except the away locker rooms... worst i've ever been in). it was always a challenge. nothing like the week of practice before the game when you would head in to watch film and have to hear the coach say "he's probably the best at his position in the conference" about every player. the atmosphere at Mount is better than another other school i played at. the student section was always packed even when our team came in their with a losing record.

if mount wasn't mount, there's a pretty good chance that a second place 9-1 or 8-2 OAC team doesn't make it to the playoffs. no one else has won any national titles in the last 20 years from the OAC. mount is the reason the OAC is looked at by outsiders as powerful, plain and simple.

my fellow otterbein alum might be a little salty because he was just the equipment manager, but come on, bud. 

I really don't know why every year at this time (during playoff's) everyone wants to put down Mt. Union and complain that they shouldn't be in DIII, or they need to leave their conference, etc. Bottom line folks, if you want to win a DIII National Championship then the road is through Alliance, Ohio.

All I have heard the past four years during the playoff season is people complaining about Mt. Union this and Mt. Union that. Sounds to me like BS and just an excuse for getting your butts kicked. Excuses are like A-Holes and everyone has one. Thing is, they all stink......

Averett University had the balls to schedule Mt. Union for a 2 year ride. Once in Alliance and once in Danville, Virginia. We got our butts wiped and handed to us on a silver plater. Averett coaches told their players if you want to get to the top, then you have to play the best. They saw first hand what, where and how they had to be in order to get to the top.

One thing you never heard from a single Averett supporter, coach, player or parent was negative remarks about Mt. Union. It was praise from the get go. The only thing I complained about was the ride on the PA Turnpike from Va to Alliance. (and that was my own fault).

Get a life folks. Mt. Union is the best DIII has and they got there from hard work, good players, great coaching and great support. If you want your school to get there then start at home (the school) and work to improve your program and make your school pump some money into the program as well. I have seen some good schools in the past 4 years with kids that want to win, and have the ability to win; but they don't have the support from the school, alumni or community where the school is located. Mt. Union has all this and more. Stop with all the jealous, baby crying and play hard nosed football. If you lose then learn from it, don't cry about it.

OK, I will shut up and go back to my neck of the woods. By the way, I am pulling for Mt. Union to win it all and I really don't care what you all come back with and have to say.

[pumkinattack]

I know that Marietta isn't exactly a powerhouse, but have they done anything that signifies improvement over the last two seasons?  I only ask because one of their assistant's was a great little RB for Hobart - Doug Blakowski.  He wasn't the biggest or fastest, but that kid kept his feet moving like his life depended on it and, barring being met by multiple players behind the LOS always found a way to get positive yards or at least back to the LOS. 

As long as it isn't against us, I always like to see Bart alums do well post graduation. 

[Toph]

Yes, they do have a loss - it happens when you play in a real conference. . 

The OAC is one of the most successful conferences in the playoffs.  Otterbein's loss this year was the exception, not the rule.  Have you already forgotten about JCU going on the road in the East and beating the best your region had to offer in '02?

I've never heard a guy who's team lost as many times this season as Mount has since the year 2000 talk so much ****. 

By the way, if you want a score for next year:  49-7 with SJF's score coming against the second or third team...possibly with a drum beat celebration.

Face it, nobody in the East is beating Mount.

[PRP96]

Hey OldOtter,

Whats wrong with equipment managers??

[bashbrother]

Here is a question I have thought of for some time.

In all respect....  Forget the starters for a moment.  Does Mount Union's 2nd string win the OAC and make the playoffs?  Do they make it to Salem?

[seventiesraider]

Here is a question I have thought of for some time.

In all respect....  Forget the starters for a moment.  Does Mount Union's 2nd string win the OAC and make the playoffs?  Do they make it to Salem?

Maybe and I doubt it, all though they practice against the best DIII team in nation, so who knows.
Even though we try to keep track, most of us are surprised when someone steps up and rushes for 100 yards in a half as happened at Marietta and with Kmic at the end of the season his freshman year. 

[raiderfan1983]

SJF Fan: I love it, Mount doesn't play in a real conference.  They must just be that good to play nobody all year and turn it on to beat the best teams in the nation 9 times over the past 15 years.  You are quite obviously still very angry about the two tail-whippings SJF has taken over the past two years.  About next year's game, I would predict a shutout, but I'm worried that you guys might decide to kick another field goal with less than 3 minutes to go in the game just to get on the board.  That's good.  "Alright boys, we're down by 33 and the game's almost over, let's go ahead and kick a field goal here.  33-3 looks more respectable than 33-0."  Go away until you have something intelligent to add to the conversation.