Future of Division III

[Ralph Turner]

Melick has written on Division III before, but I think Kevin Scarbinsky was the worst offender along those lines.

Using the advanced search tools provided by Pat Coleman on these sites, here are the other Ray Melick articles.

Pat Coleman's Welcome to D-III Daily Dose.  The Melick links are close to the bottom.

Melick article will need additional searching.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2986313



This is a story about a 59 year old man who has made the football team at Sul Ross State.

[Knightstalker]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2986313

Should we start a new thread, Grandchildren with grandparents looking to play D-III?

[johnnie_esq]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2986313

Should we start a new thread, Grandchildren with grandparents looking to play D-III?

Perhaps instead under a thread entitled "Past and Present of Division III"

[David Collinge]

Hoops Fan, can you at least hint what the link is for before sending D3Sports traffic off to ESPN?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Hoops Fan, can you at least hint what the link is for before sending D3Sports traffic off to ESPN?

Sorry.  I was in a hurry, but wanted to make sure it gone on here.  I've fixed it now, for what that's worth.

[Ralph Turner]

Hyperlink to the January 2008 Legislation  The convention is in Nashville, January 11-14, 2008.  I really encourage you to click on the link to read the "Intent" commentary accompanying each piece of legislation.  It does a good job of explaining the reason for the legislation.

My quick summary...

1-1 Legislation co-sponsorship:  Extending the deadline to Sept 1st to allow time over the summer to find more sponsors.

Sponsors:  AMCC,  ASC, NAthCon

1-2  Recruiting Defining voicemail, IM, faxes, videoconferencing do's and don'ts

Centennial, NEWMAC, D-III Presidents and SAAC

1-3 Recruiting Publicity -- to make the publicity the same for athletes as other students.

MWC, ASC, MIAC, NAthCon

1-4  Academic Support Services -- Allowing more flexibility in the administration of academic support to athletes.

WIAC, ASC, MIAC, NAthCon

1-5  Post-Season Make-up Games   Rain outs, etc.

WIAC, NAthCon

1-6  Basketball opening date -- move to November 15th, just like D-II

Capital AC, SUNYAC

1-7 Pre-season practice -- Fall sports starting dates

WIAC, NAthCon, SUNYAC

1-8  AQ's for Single-sport Conferences -- especially women's ice hockey

North Atlantic Conference (NAC), MASCAC

1-9  Using Provisional schools to keep a conference's AQ -- essentially a scramble for survival if I interpret the motive by the sponsors.  It also adds value to provisionals who can get into a conference to get games.

NEAC and NAC

Corrections and comments appreciated.
 

[Ralph Turner]

Division II Regionalization Plan.

Today the NCAA announced the Regionalization plan for D-II.

Perhaps they have been reading the scholarly debates on the "Future of Division III" Message Board!   

The Oklahoma Panhandle is ignored, as one who has driven US Hwy 281 on one's way from Texas to the Rockies can understand.   

Wyoming has no D-II's (or D-III's FWIW) and so Montana is declared an adjacent state to Colorado.

Enjoy the reading. 

[Ralph Turner]

Division I Championships/Competition Cabinet will evaluate one proposal to expand the football playoff bracket to 24 teams.

Division I Football Championship Subdivision Bracket Expansion.

Currently, the FCS bracket has 16 teams, and one proposal calls for an expansion to a 24-team bracket, which has a $990,000 price tag. An alternative proposal seeks to add an opening-round game to the bracket at a cost of $250,000. Bracket expansion also will be considered for men's volleyball, men's water polo and women's rowing.

That is that much less NCAA money to facilitate the move by the NCAC and the other "D-IV's" to secession.

[David Collinge]

Wyoming has no D-II's (or D-III's FWIW) and so Montana is declared an adjacent state to Colorado.

Wyoming has no NAIAs, no NCCAAs, no nothing, except for the University of Wyoming, the only 4-year college in the state.  And even it is barely in the state, being a close neighbor and rival of Colorado State.  Still, it's a fairly long drive from Billings to Denver, and a tremendously long drive from, say, Libby to Trinidad!

[smedindy]

Division II Regionalization Plan.


The Oklahoma Panhandle is ignored, as one who has driven US Hwy 281 on one's way from Texas to the Rockies can understand.   

Sadly, many people ignore everything between the Alleghenys and the Sierra Nevadas, too! Ah, well. Their loss!

[Pat Coleman]

That is that much less NCAA money to facilitate the move by the NCAC and the other "D-IV's" to secession.

Why wouldn't Division I be forced to stay within its budget?

[Ralph Turner]

That is that much less NCAA money to facilitate the move by the NCAC and the other "D-IV's" to secession.

Why wouldn't Division I be forced to stay within its budget?

Good point.

I am just sensitive to any re-allocation of the monies that gives us less.

[frank uible]

Because DI basketball and DIA football make the money, what money they throw to DI non-basketball except for DIA football, DII and DIII is merely a matter of charity and their charity has reached its limits.

[johnnie_esq]

Keep in mind that DI-A football isn't a huge moneymaker for the NCAA.  The Bowls/Schools make the money for football, since the NCAA itself does not sanction the bowl system-- the BCS does a nice job of superimposing its position onto the NCAA in that way.  There is a small operating profit for football, but the big money (bowls) comes from and goes to the schools and conferences and BCS.

So while football is a consideration since the NCAA effectively governs college football, the revenue pretty much comes from D1-A Men's basketball (though lacrosse, hockey and baseball also make some money).

Hopefully, the idea of more money for D1-AA will spur discussion about why D1-AA needs more (influx of former D-2ers), which, in turn will lead to the question about D-2's ability to sustain itself, which, in turn, will bring about the DIII-DIV question, which will bring about the desire to reevaluate the NCAA's structure as a whole. 

Wishful thinking on my part, I'm afraid.