Future of Division III

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Ralph Turner

BatteredBard, thanks for the series!  +1 ;)

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Ralph Turner

Interesting news blurb on the NAIA board under the Regional Mnagement Committee update.

QuoteNCAA President Myles Brand and members of the NCAA staff.  The NAIA national office has met with representatives of the NCAA on several occasions in the last two years in an effort to maintain open lines of communication.  In this most recent meeting, conversation centered on discussions ongoing in the NCAA about proposed legislative changes and modifications to the membership application process in NCAA Division II, and consideration of a possible subdivision in Division III or perhaps a new NCAA Division IV.  The NAIA staff has taken pains throughout these conversations to emphasize that membership decisions in the NCAA cannot be made in a vacuum, without consideration for the implications for NAIA membership, if the two organizations are to remain true to each association's stated mutual interest in a collegial NAIA-NCAA relationship.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 04, 2007, 01:19:58 PM
Interesting news blurb on the NAIA board under the Regional Mnagement Committee update.

QuoteNCAA President Myles Brand and members of the NCAA staff.  The NAIA national office has met with representatives of the NCAA on several occasions in the last two years in an effort to maintain open lines of communication.  In this most recent meeting, conversation centered on discussions ongoing in the NCAA about proposed legislative changes and modifications to the membership application process in NCAA Division II, and consideration of a possible subdivision in Division III or perhaps a new NCAA Division IV.  The NAIA staff has taken pains throughout these conversations to emphasize that membership decisions in the NCAA cannot be made in a vacuum, without consideration for the implications for NAIA membership, if the two organizations are to remain true to each association's stated mutual interest in a collegial NAIA-NCAA relationship.

Interesting ... and cryptic.
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Warren Thompson

Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 04, 2007, 05:36:01 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 04, 2007, 01:19:58 PM
Interesting news blurb on the NAIA board under the Regional Mnagement Committee update.

QuoteNCAA President Myles Brand and members of the NCAA staff.  The NAIA national office has met with representatives of the NCAA on several occasions in the last two years in an effort to maintain open lines of communication.  In this most recent meeting, conversation centered on discussions ongoing in the NCAA about proposed legislative changes and modifications to the membership application process in NCAA Division II, and consideration of a possible subdivision in Division III or perhaps a new NCAA Division IV.  The NAIA staff has taken pains throughout these conversations to emphasize that membership decisions in the NCAA cannot be made in a vacuum, without consideration for the implications for NAIA membership, if the two organizations are to remain true to each association's stated mutual interest in a collegial NAIA-NCAA relationship.

Interesting ... and cryptic.

Indeed. What does all this mean? Details needed from the Indianapolis suits, I think.

David Collinge

It sound to me like the NAIA wants the NCAA to build a Berlin Wall to keep the NAIA schools from fleeing to the West.

Warren Thompson

Quote from: David Collinge on January 04, 2007, 07:30:40 PM
It sound to me like the NAIA wants the NCAA to build a Berlin Wall to keep the NAIA schools from fleeing to the West.

Or is a merger pending?  :o

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 04, 2007, 07:34:37 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on January 04, 2007, 07:30:40 PM
It sound to me like the NAIA wants the NCAA to build a Berlin Wall to keep the NAIA schools from fleeing to the West.

Or is a merger pending?  :o
Why merge?

The cream will move to the NCAA if they wish.  The dregs will not clear the provisional status, and the NAIA is losing the heart of the association.

smedindy

Division IV? Hmmm....

I really think two divisions make sense, I and III. Either you shell out for scholarships, or you don't. Make your choice, and live with it.
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: smedindy on January 04, 2007, 09:32:44 PM
Division IV? Hmmm....

I really think two divisions make sense, I and III. Either you shell out for scholarships, or you don't. Make your choice, and live with it.

Right on.
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Coach C

Going back a day or so, i just wanted to note that there are several differing methodologies as to how discount rate is calculated.  The National Association of College and University Business Officers has a formula, Noel-Lezitz, the nations largest enrollment management consulting firm has a formula and the NCAA has the D3 formula.

Each takes into account both need based and merit based aid as it consideres the real price that students pay for a college education. 

The average for larger (over 2000) private 4 year schools is in the 40% range.

C

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Why is it that the only time D3 schools make ESPN's headlines it's for stuff like this?
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PrideFan1986

Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 26, 2007, 02:22:29 PM

Why is it that the only time D3 schools make ESPN's headlines it's for stuff like this?


Other than no scholarships i think that is why alot of players dont want to go to a D3 school and play. There is no BIG media publicity.

Bob Maxwell

This type of thing gets coverage because it is sensationalism at its best.

It attracts readers and sells papers and there for gives advertisements more exposure...

I don't think there are more incidents like this then there were 20 -30 years ago, I think that they all just get covered today.  Years ago, there was some respect from the media to someones personal life.

PrideFan1986

Quote from: Bob Maxwell on January 27, 2007, 10:44:55 AM
This type of thing gets coverage because it is sensationalism at its best.

It attracts readers and sells papers and there for gives advertisements more exposure...

I don't think there are more incidents like this then there were 20 -30 years ago, I think that they all just get covered today.  Years ago, there was some respect from the media to someones personal life.


It really seems that the only time media shows up is if it is with someones personal stuff. I totally agree with that statement.