Future of Division III

[David Collinge]

For the record, though, midwesterners are continually astonished when I tell them that I grew up in a city that's a good five hours' drive from New York City, and that as a result I never visited NYC until I was sixteen. Midwesterners think that the northeast is so geographically constricted that everyone lives within a couple of hours of Manhattan. When you tell them that Jamestown, in far southwestern New York, is almost equidistant between NYC and Chicago in terms of travel time -- it's seven hours to the former and eight hours to the latter -- it absolutely boggles their minds.

A college friend of mine recently told me he was going to be in Los Angeles, and would I like to meet him for lunch?  LA, while admittedly also in California, is about an 11-hour drive for me, depending on traffic and what part of the sprawling city he had in mind.

[Mr. Ypsi]

For the record, though, midwesterners are continually astonished when I tell them that I grew up in a city that's a good five hours' drive from New York City, and that as a result I never visited NYC until I was sixteen. Midwesterners think that the northeast is so geographically constricted that everyone lives within a couple of hours of Manhattan. When you tell them that Jamestown, in far southwestern New York, is almost equidistant between NYC and Chicago in terms of travel time -- it's seven hours to the former and eight hours to the latter -- it absolutely boggles their minds.

A college friend of mine recently told me he was going to be in Los Angeles, and would I like to meet him for lunch?  LA, while admittedly also in California, is about an 11-hour drive for me, depending on traffic and what part of the sprawling city he had in mind.

I confess I thought you were in SoCal.  Where are you?

And I thought (until you hit the LA freeways) everything in Cali was within a couple of (really fast) hours of each other!

[Finlandia faced the same sort of problem.  The NCAA finally re-classified them as West region; they were almost 450 miles from the nearest Great Lakes region team! ]

[Pat Coleman]

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2010/12/mcmurry-to-move-to-d2

So long, McMurry?

[Titan Q]

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2010/12/mcmurry-to-move-to-d2

So long, McMurry?

I sure hope we don't lose Ralph Turner here.  He is the #1-seed poster on this site in my opinion.

[HSCTiger74]

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2010/12/mcmurry-to-move-to-d2

So long, McMurry?

I sure hope we don't lose Ralph Turner here.  He is the #1-seed poster on this site in my opinion.

I'll second that, and +k for being the first to say so. When Ralph weighs in on an issue you know that he has given it some thought and, while it may not be what you wanted to hear, you'll get an honest and unbiased opinion. 

[Just Bill]

Will this change U of New Orleans plans?  There wasn't room in the ASC last week, but there is now.

[Ralph Turner]

UNO may have budgetary issues, and I wonder if the ASC really wants the extra travel burden.

[frank uible]

If I were a betting man, I would wager a large sum that Houghton College would not join NESCAC in the foreseeable future.

[Gregory Sager]

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2010/12/mcmurry-to-move-to-d2

So long, McMurry?

I sure hope we don't lose Ralph Turner here.  He is the #1-seed poster on this site in my opinion.

This makes twice this week that Bob has taken the words right out of my mouth.

McMurry itself doesn't hold much personal attachment for me. But I would hate to lose Ralph.

[snowboy40]

If I were a betting man, I would wager a large sum that Houghton College would not join NESCAC in the foreseeable future.

.....I can't believe that this Houghton going to the NESCAC isn't a mistaken report from the get-go...I'll bet what they mean is Houghton playing in the NEAC with the likes of Keuka, Medaille, Cazenovia etc....that's a conference that runs through western NY and western PA and would seem to make way more sense.....

[Gregory Sager]

If I were a betting man, I would wager a large sum that Houghton College would not join NESCAC in the foreseeable future.

.....I can't believe that this Houghton going to the NESCAC isn't a mistaken report from the get-go...I'll bet what they mean is Houghton playing in the NEAC with the likes of Keuka, Medaille, Cazenovia etc....that's a conference that runs through western NY and western PA and would seem to make way more sense.....

Agreed, snowboy.

[Knightstalker]

If I were a betting man, I would wager a large sum that Houghton College would not join NESCAC in the foreseeable future.

.....I can't believe that this Houghton going to the NESCAC isn't a mistaken report from the get-go...I'll bet what they mean is Houghton playing in the NEAC with the likes of Keuka, Medaille, Cazenovia etc....that's a conference that runs through western NY and western PA and would seem to make way more sense.....

Actually the report came straight from the horses mouth so to say.  This is from someone involved in the process at Houghton.  The coaches are about evenly split, some are strongly pushing for the NESCAC, not the NEAC, I do know the difference.  The rest of the coaches want to join the E8 if they have to go NCAA, some want to stay NAIA but realize the competition is not there anymore, especially for their Mens soccer team.

I realize that Houghton may not fit the NESCAC profile and most likely would not join, do not Poo Poo the fact that they are discussing membership with Houghton.

[frank uible]

Poo poo.

[Ralph Turner]

Poo poo.

Houghton does not have a Phi Beta Kappa chapter.  That doesn't help their case.

[Ralph Turner]

Poo poo.

Houghton does not have a Phi Beta Kappa chapter.  That doesn't help their case.

Phi Beta Kappa Chapter map

The person who plotted the location of the chapters messed up on several aspects of the maps, e.g., misspellings of member institutions, wrong locations.

Pomona College just south of Sacramento
University of California - Irvin
University of California Santa Barbara - just due west of Sacramento
University of California Los Angless

Louisiana State University where New Orleans is located.