Future of Division III

[Caz Bombers]

the P5 conferences and the rest of FBS will all fold up shop for the fall within 48 hours, and that will be that.

[Caz Bombers]

the P5 conferences and the rest of FBS will all fold up shop for the fall within 48 hours, and that will be that.

or maybe the #WeWantToPlay movement that got hot on social media last night will give administrators the cover to keep going and allow themselves to keep making millions and bazillions of dollars. I don't know anymore! Everything changes every 10 seconds!!

[jamtod]

Sounds like Big 10 voted 12-2 to shut it down. PAC 12 is expected to follow and ACC and Big 12 are on the fence. SEC is trying to rally others to join them and play.

In terms of college athletes being low or no risk, from a death standpoint, that seems truthy though I've seen a lot of anecdotal evidence like this (edited to add: also just saw report from Red Sox Pitcher Eduardo Rodriguez out for the season due to some heart issues):

Joseph Duarte
@Joseph_Duarte

In a Facebook post, Houston defensive lineman Sedrick Williams said he's had complications with his heart after testing positive for COVID-19 in early July. "I really don't know the outcome or what's in store for me in the future."

Heart, lungs, etc. One study showed 80 out of 100 people examined (including many who were asymptomatic) showed some level of long-term tissue challenges. I think the median age range was in the 40s. This was the only study of that type that I'd seen and I didn't find anything about whether they examined 20ish year olds or not.

It's still early enough, so room for hope that given time, the body will heal itself up from these issues and that further investigation will show that it's not all that common and we're just hearing a lot of really loud anecdotes.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I think the concern that younger people can pass it along to older people is not talked about enough. I know my concern with my kids going to school is they end up bringing the virus back to us ... or their grandparents .. or someone else.

That really has to be better appreciated and respected. It may not hurt or kill younger people as much, but they being carriers is a scary thing.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The off season has hit August and with it has come news of Division III Fall Championships being canceled for the same reason Winter Championships were derailed and Spring Championships pulled earlier this year: COVID 19 Pandemic.

The decision came on the heals of a vast majority of DIII institutions curtailing fall sports and many pushing winter sports starts on their campuses until January at the earliest.

What does this mean for the 2020-21 season of college basketball? Specifically what does it mean for Division III? Will there be a basketball season? Will it be a six-week-or-so-sprint? Or is there a way to adjust things?

On the Mid-Summer edition of the Hoopsville Podcast, we try and get some answers to those questions. We talk to one coach who actually has put together a proposal to start the season in January, with some changes to make it work including crowning a champion in April. And we talk to an administrator who also serves on the DIII Management Council to better under stand the decisions made to cancel championships and if shift a season like basketball is even possible.

Plus, we honor the best of the best in the last decade of Division III women's basketball. Gordon Mann joins us to discuss how the 2nd D3hoops.com Women's All-Decade came together (and hints of work on the men's list).

Guests include:
- Philip Ponder, Oglethorpe men's coach
- Jason Fein, Bates Athletics Director and DIII Management Council member
- Gordon Mann, D3hoops.com Senior Editor

And of course, there is always the Hoopsville Notebook. A few things we take note of that have made headlines since the beginning of July. We also tip our hat to a few of those who have always helped the show be it's best.

You can listen to the podcast here: https://bit.ly/3kGZ962

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[Bishopleftiesdad]

I will leave this here, take form it what you want:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/04/an_effective_covid_treatment_the_media_continues_to_besmirch_143875.html

Unless I am missing something this is eye opening.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

My dad was taking that stuff for a non covid illness earlier this year. His doctor got him on and off as quickly as possible saying, "you don't want to take a drop of this stuff you don't absolutely have to."

You'd need to show me some awfully definitive scientific information to agree to that course of treatment. Not the kind of thing I'd take on a hunch.

[jknezek]

I will leave this here, take form it what you want:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/04/an_effective_covid_treatment_the_media_continues_to_besmirch_143875.html

Unless I am missing something this is eye opening.

Notice they did not include Brazil among the early users of HCQ? They cherry-picked the data for countries very effectively. Brazil handed it out like candy and the country is almost as much a hot mess as we are. Other countries that didn't use HCQ faired well also with contact tracing, isolation, and testing, like South Korea and New Zealand. Articles like this, and some that have come out demonizing HCQ, have very efficiently ONLY used data that helps their cause. It has a great WOW factor for politics, it's absolute garbage for science.

There is no conclusive data on HCQ, no matter how either side wants desperately to point it out for political purposes. There are some half formed studies that show it works and other half-formed studies that show it either doesn't work or is harmful in bad doses. But it's all half-formed and unproven. That's the problem with politics intruding on science as badly as it has with this disease. We demand fast answers, and science isn't geared for fast.

The most interesting test of this will be Russia's relatively untested and completely unproven "vaccine." Provided we get accurate data, which is probably about a 0% chance...

[Gray Fox]

I will leave this here, take form it what you want:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/04/an_effective_covid_treatment_the_media_continues_to_besmirch_143875.html

Unless I am missing something this is eye opening.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/03/hydroxychloroquine-not-effective-brett-giroir/5570944002/

[Bishopleftiesdad]

I will leave this here, take form it what you want:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/04/an_effective_covid_treatment_the_media_continues_to_besmirch_143875.html

Unless I am missing something this is eye opening.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/03/hydroxychloroquine-not-effective-brett-giroir/5570944002/

thanks for the post. JK is correct about Cherry Picking. However the study in the Lancet that was published at all is eye opening. The Peer review process could have been better, and caught this before being published. And not just because it supports one side or another.

Edit for clarity.

[Ralph Turner]

And in the news today, [Gov Tim Walz (D-MN)] MN Governor Quietly Reverses Course on Hydroxychloroquine

This past week Minnesota became the second state to reject regulations that effectively ban the controversial drug hydroxychloroquine for use by COVID-19 patients.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mn-governor-quietly-reverses-course-on-hydroxychloroquine/ar-BB1824Me

[Ralph Turner]

I will leave this here, take form it what you want:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/04/an_effective_covid_treatment_the_media_continues_to_besmirch_143875.html

Unless I am missing something this is eye opening.

Notice they did not include Brazil among the early users of HCQ? They cherry-picked the data for countries very effectively. Brazil handed it out like candy and the country is almost as much a hot mess as we are. Other countries that didn't use HCQ faired well also with contact tracing, isolation, and testing, like South Korea and New Zealand. Articles like this, and some that have come out demonizing HCQ, have very efficiently ONLY used data that helps their cause. It has a great WOW factor for politics, it's absolute garbage for science.

There is no conclusive data on HCQ, no matter how either side wants desperately to point it out for political purposes. There are some half formed studies that show it works and other half-formed studies that show it either doesn't work or is harmful in bad doses. But it's all half-formed and unproven. That's the problem with politics intruding on science as badly as it has with this disease. We demand fast answers, and science isn't geared for fast.

The most interesting test of this will be Russia's relatively untested and completely unproven "vaccine." Provided we get accurate data, which is probably about a 0% chance...

South Korea did use HCQ as one of the drugs as well as other public health matters such as contract tracing and dedicated (quarantine) facilities as reported by UPI on Mar 12, 2020.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/03/12/South-Korea-experts-recommend-anti-HIV-anti-malaria-drugs-for-COVID-19/6961584012321/

This was before remdesivir was available.

The web site "C19 study" gives updates on epidemiologic data and a current tally of the world's literature.

https://c19study.com/

[Gray Fox]

Oleandrin is the latest drug being touted.   

[Ralph Turner]

Since it mentions NYU and Baruch, for your contemplation.

NYC IS DEAD FOREVER... HERE'S WHY

https://jamesaltucher.com/blog/nyc-is-dead-forever-heres-why

[Gregory Sager]

That's a sobering read, Ralph.

A lot of it is applicable to Chicago as well. And Chicago in 2020 also has its own problems that are unique to the city. I know Chicago lifers who have left here in recent months who have said that they're never coming back, and other lifers who are contemplating it ... and I'm not talking about a move to the Chicagoland suburbs, either. These are the kind of people who would never live in a suburb. They're moving to lower-profile cities outside of Illinois.

This is an era of crisis for all of America's major cities -- and the pandemic is only part of the reason why. Something as seemingly innocuous as an increase in available phone bandwidth is also, as Altucher points out, playing a major role. And there are other issues related to the crisis that have more to do with quality-of-life and/or viability-of-business issues.

American life is undergoing a sea change. In some ways, it's because of the pandemic, and in other ways the pandemic is only accelerating change. One thing's for sure: American colleges and universities are like deer in the headlights as this change comes bearing down on them with no chance of putting on the brakes.