Future of Division III

Warren Thompson · January 11, 2006, 04:48:29 PM

It seems that Middlebury finds national championships when played on ice to be quite "academic." Doubtless it's because of all those skaters with 1500+ SATs.

Jim Matson · January 12, 2006, 12:18:33 AM

No new level is really being created as D1-AAA already exists. So really the mess is in splitting up DIII and dealing with any of the current DII schools that would want to stay DII. And what about the current non-scholarship DI programs in football? Do they have to leave DI-AAA?

Flea · January 12, 2006, 01:07:43 AM

Quote from: Hiker Jim on January 12, 2006, 12:18:33 AM
No new level is really being created as D1-AAA already exists.

Could you name some schools that are in Division I-AAA? What sports offer a Division I-AAA post-season?

smedindy · January 12, 2006, 07:18:04 AM

I-AAA is the name for the D-1 schools that don't offer football, like Gonzaga.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · January 12, 2006, 09:03:46 AM

I'm pretty sure that's not official.

Warren Thompson · January 12, 2006, 09:08:40 AM

Quote from: Hoops Fan on January 12, 2006, 09:03:46 AM

I'm pretty sure that's not official.

Nor do I, though I've seen references to D1-AA non-scholarship football teams as D1-AAA. These, too, are unofficial.

smedindy · January 12, 2006, 09:20:09 AM

It may not be official but I've seen references to it when talking about Gonzaga or Loyola - Take Your Pick.

Ralph Turner · January 12, 2006, 09:29:45 AM

Division I-AAA is official.

Go to the NCAA website and hit a search on Division I-AAA for a perspective of the extent to which it exists.

Coach C · January 12, 2006, 10:30:46 AM

LaSalle in PA, Georgetown (DC) are ezxamples of I-AAA football.

It's terrible football, but it exists.

C

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · January 12, 2006, 10:42:38 AM

Is that just because they want to have football, but aren't allowed to play at lower levels as a D2 institution?

smedindy · January 12, 2006, 12:55:04 PM

I-AAA does refer to non-football playing D-1 schools.

D-IAA non scholarship schools were D-3 (or D-2) at one point but the NCAA made them move because some athletes were scholarship in other sports and also playing football.

cawcdad · January 12, 2006, 02:00:16 PM

Division I-AA is for football only. D-IAA is for schools that do not give scholorships for football (Pioneer League) or whose facilities and draw are not up to the size (I do not know what that treshold is off hand) demanded of D-I. Sac State, and UC Davis are examples. Although UC Davis is building a larger stadium.

smedindy · January 12, 2006, 03:14:46 PM

I think it's at least 15,000 per game of attendance, though the NCAA hasn't bounced anyone back to D-1AA that I know of, though the MAC and Sun Belt have a lot of teams on the cusp.

Mr. Ypsi · January 12, 2006, 08:37:33 PM

The attendance figure of 15,000 is correct.

I know, because Eastern Michigan is perennially on the hot-seat. They had a mini-scandal this past year when it was revealed that they were GROSSLY inflating attendance figures (as the few people actually there were well aware!) - last year they claimed an average of about 16,000, when the real figure was more like 7,000! What I found the MOST disgusting is that they hired the baseball team to multi-punch the hand-held attendance counters (mysteriously, the turnstile counters were 'inoperable') - way to teach ethics to your 'student-athletes'!

The former AD (who denies any knowledge of the scheme - try to find anyone in Ypsilanti who believes him!) is now the AD at Case Western (watch out if they suddenly are among the d3 leaders in attendance)!

downbythebeach · January 13, 2006, 01:05:48 PM

Coach C,

Not a big fan of non scholly football, ey?
Yet you're on a D-3 board.